Motorsport Off Topic Thread

All the promises of cost cutting and a more level playing field regards spending seemed to peak interest for a bit and people seemed to think something might have come of it. But nah we carry on with a sport where it costs hundreds of millions to run 2 cars round a track for 18 or so races without testing.

The big teams don't give a stuff about protecting the sport and everyones interests. I swear they would be happy with 6 cars on the grid as long as their are the ones winning.
 
andicole0 said:
Agreed, not looking forward to 3 car teams! Imagine the team orders flying around.

Andi.
Click to expand...

Especially as the 3rd cars wouldn't score points. But the positions would not be reallocated downwards.

So we could have...

Mercedes 1
Mercedes 2
Mercedes 3
Red Bull 4
Red Bull 5
Red Bull 6
McLaren 7
McLaren 8
McLaren 9
Ferrari 10
Ferrari 11
Ferrari 12
Williams 13
Williams 14
Williams 15

For example...

Merc would get 43 points (25+18 for 1st and 2nd)
Red Bull would get 22 points (12+10 for 4th and 5th)
McLaren would get 10 points (6+4 for 7th and 8th)
Ferrari would get 1 point for 10th.
Williams would get nada.

The lower teams would have even less hope of scoring points and then would be in trouble. Causing the potential for 4 car teams once we get down to 5 teams... *sigh*
 
3rd cars not scoring points only happens when there is a mix of 2 and 3 car teams. If all teams had 3 cars then all cars would score points.

And if any cars were prevented from scoring points then the WCC points would shift down a position, so your situation wouldn't happen.
 
I do see great appeal to end car all scoring teams
The field spread would hopefully be less.. No back markers too
You could more easy solve driver X or Y is better as you would have more comparison drivers
On track action might be better 3 drivers on the same car.. But no doubt team orders would ruin it

Think overall is better to have 3 cars scoring points than 1 of 3 not
 
Last edited:
Skeeter said:
3rd cars not scoring points only happens when there is a mix of 2 and 3 car teams. If all teams had 3 cars then all cars would score points..
Click to expand...

That doesn't make sense at all

It surely depends on what the FIA deemed the rules to be. No reason at all why (even with all teams having 3 cars) the 3rd couldn't be an inexperienced /test driver ...possibly with testing parts on it as well

The FIA may potentially follow A N Other formula's rules for 3 car teams, but there is no reason at all that they HAVE to do this as far as Im aware)

There are of course potential hazards like how a team would be affected (for the next season?) if a test driver took out a contender for the title (and Im sure a few other potential scenarios too) but on the whole Im not sure why three car teams with only two scoring wouldn't be a good thing for the sport.
(instead of losing two/three teams and not replacing those cars at all).
 
But the FIA don't want to have cars on track that 'don't count'. They would have no interest at all in having 1/3rd of the grid effectively invisible to the championship(s). The only reason to have non scoring cars is because a) they don't comply with the rules (like Le Mans Garage 56), b) they are a visitor to the championship for a single round, or c) there is a constructors championship but not all teams in it have the same number of cars, and they need to keep it fair.

There won't be non scoring cars unless there's a solid reason why they should be. Forcing teams to run 'development' drivers is flawed too. Ignoring how you define 'development' (de la Rossa managed to qualify to drive in the Young Drivers Test recently), it would meean there are only 14 or 16 'proper' places in F1, and 7 or 8 mandated road blocks.

Either way though, there isn't gaps in the points for non scoring drivers. At least for the WCC. A secondary set of results is compiled and the points allocated against that, much like the BTCC handle the independent drivers and teams championships alongside the overall teams and drivers championships.

On another note though, I wonder if they would get an additional pit box? Would be a squeeze to go from 11 to 16 boxes at a lot of tracks, but 1 box is going to be a challenge if a SC comes out?
 
Last edited:
3 car teams are just a terrible idea which ever way you look at it.

Apparently marrusia have advised London courts that they are like to go into administration. Although I'm not sure why you would advise them you might. So probably just one of many stupid rumours.
 
Well it would be very sensible to advise the courts about your financial trouble if there are people compiling legal action against you.
 
As Marrusia have secured 10th place in the WCC they can now completely focus and concentrate on 2015's car. So that would make it even more difficult for Caterham next year. I've got a feeling that the race in Russia was the last time we'll ever see a Caterham F1 car.
 
OldCoals said:
If Marrusia don't run again this year should they receive their prize money from the points they have secured this season?
Click to expand...
As they earnt the points then yes they should receive the money, however if they go into administration then the money should go direct to pay debts.
 
Duke said:
Pretty sure they are allowed to skip 3.
Click to expand...

Are they allowed to skip them while avoiding all punishment though? Fairly sure Bernie wouldn't pen a contract where teams are able to skip without some penalty (even if it is a bit counter-productive to dock money from a team struggling with money... since when did that stop rule-makers hitting competitors where it hurts?).

I'm not saying that's the case, but Bernie and his shareholding cronies wouldn't be happy with a 18 (or 16?) car grid, and I'm sure their contract with the teams has some incentive or other to deter such an eventuality...
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom