Indeed. RBR dominated for 1.5 of the 5 seasons they were in the title fight for. They didn't come close to the dominance Ferrari had in the early 00s or Mercedes have now. RBR had at most half a second advantage over the field, Mercedes have been 2+ seconds ahead when pushed.
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There were literally dozens of races Vettel would shoot off to a 8-10 second lead at WELL over 1 second a lap before cruising. This is what Merc do in many races. The difference is with RBR when Vettel was 10 seconds ahead of 3rd place Webber was already seconds behind. With Merc the times they shoot off to 20+ second leads is the times Rosberg keeps pushing Hamilton so he can't cruise.
There were many times and loads of tracks where RBR had a very similar advantage that Merc have now, just with a weak no.2 driver, often not qualifying second and thus getting held up but not competitive enough even when they qualified 1-2, Vettel was just not pushed to drive as fast as Hamilton often is.
When Hamilton or Rosberg don't qualify second or have a bad start and drop back a few places then whoever is left out front does the same as Vettel. Cruise out 5-10 seconds then hold station. No point taking out tire life by getting a 30 second lead then a safety car puts you within half a second of the guy behind but you having no tire life left when safety car goes in.
There were many times and loads of tracks where RBR had a very similar advantage that Merc have now, just with a weak no.2 driver, often not qualifying second and thus getting held up but not competitive enough even when they qualified 1-2, Vettel was just not pushed to drive as fast as Hamilton often is.
When Hamilton or Rosberg don't qualify second or have a bad start and drop back a few places then whoever is left out front does the same as Vettel. Cruise out 5-10 seconds then hold station. No point taking out tire life by getting a 30 second lead then a safety car puts you within half a second of the guy behind but you having no tire life left when safety car goes in.
Totally agree and vettel was pounded for having the audacity to drive a car with such an advantage. Yet only the Mclaren with Senna and Prost managed to dominate more. Vettel seems to be becoming more likeable now he doesn't have the cheek to drive the best car.
Lewis has always been prone to errors, even this year when it hasn't gone his own way he has made them. People bang on about him driving better than ever, he isn't he's just driving a car much better than the field by miles. Personally I prefer it when he's closer matched, he makes more errors but he's much more interesting to watch duelling. Sadly Rosberg isn't even as good as massa at putting up a fight. Lewis running away at the front kinda isn't the point of watching hamilton race.
Most of the dislike was because team orders were in place at Red Bull.
I don't know. Why would they want to run this year's engine. As Bernie said F1 needs them too much from marketing point. There's no point for them or indeed F1 running 4 cars at the back of the field spending millions. I'd rather they pull out for a year and then come back with Honda/ new engine supplier year later.
I'm sure they could come up with great PR stunts with their drivers and give them exciting challenges/ opportunities for the same money they'd spend on F1 season. They could go to Porsche and get a car for Le Mamns if they wanted to.
Yeah it does, an engine formula, where no engine performance upgrades are allowed between March and November. Brilliant.
Did DM say something to the two people who have him on the ignore list?
Only two? I thought most of the forum were ignoring him now. Saves on bandwidth not having to download his posts.
As we have covered with deuse, that contract doesn't include any means to force a team to compete if they have no engines in their cars.
RBR could be forced to leave, rather than choosing too. Force majeure starts to come into play then.
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At the next F1 Commission meeting they will discus using the 2015 engine.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/121328
Now if that goes ahead then TR\Rb team can take a Ferrari 2015.
And I don't see CVC (who wants to be sold off) turning down $300+ million.
There is also a meeting about the race calendar as the FIA say only 20 races for 2016 but Berni says 21.
Have a watch of this video of David Coulthard and Jenson Button doing rallycross.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34476954
Jenson's voice as he gets out of the beetle is hilarious. I think it's only audible to dogs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/34476954
Jenson's voice as he gets out of the beetle is hilarious. I think it's only audible to dogs
It's things like this that makes the BBC's F1 coverage worth watching, in addition i think Jenson is great guy.
Jay
Just a pity that virtually everything about the BBC F1 coverage is actually quite ****
Ferrari have already said they do not have the resources in place to supply 2015 engines next year.