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The FIA are really struggling to find something to do with the Formula 2 name... ;)

But tbh I've no interest in watching a race between Ferrari and Mercedes for the title, with everyone else being lapped. I don't expect all the other teams would be keen to do that either.
 
XeNoN89 said:
The engine rules are a bit silly now. Hopefully the new aero rules in 2017 have enough of an impact to make the engine less important to the overall package
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Unfortunately it doesn't look like the sensible suggestions for 2017 (ground effect, wider cars, etc) will happen as it requires lots of people who will never agree to agree...
 
MissChief said:
This is where the FIA should hire some ex engineers, run through the calculations and then say 'these are the new rules, like it or lump it!'
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The trouble is an ex-engineer was an engineer for someone once, and probably still has bias towards their former employer. could be very easily persuaded ;)

Besides, the FIA don't have the balls to say "like it or lump it", they'd lose too many top teams who'd take the fans with them.

I would love to see someone come into the FIA as president with the balls to do it, but I don't see it happening...
 
MissChief said:
This is where the FIA should hire some ex engineers, run through the calculations and then say 'these are the new rules, like it or lump it!'
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The FIA has got engineers. The reason Merc got ahead was that Brawn was on that FIA engineering panel :)

Sauber: 'Red Bull should accept whatever engine they get' http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...d-bull-should-accept-whatever-engine-they-get

I agree with her on this.

I do laugh at all the people who wanted\love these power units are the ones moaning about them most :D
 
mctiny said:
The trouble is an ex-engineer was an engineer for someone once, and probably still has bias towards their former employer. could be very easily persuaded ;)

Besides, the FIA don't have the balls to say "like it or lump it", they'd lose too many top teams who'd take the fans with them.

I would love to see someone come into the FIA as president with the balls to do it, but I don't see it happening...
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The problem is the FIA can't say "like it or lump it". They sold the rights to make the rules and now only actually hold 1/3 of the votes on the regulation of their own sport!
 
They have done a lot of work and look to be pretty much there, which I didn't think they would be.

However, it doesnt look like a great track, to many 90 degree corners and Micky Mouse sections. Also the tarmac looks patchy as hell in some sections?

We shall see.
 
Duke said:

Vid of Mexico track from above.
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No Peraltada corner :mad:

Looks like Bernie is at it again :)

“This engine shouldn’t have been that complicated, to be honest with you,” Ecclestone said. “It was only when the engineers got hold of it that it became complicated. The product is not fit for the purpose.”

I agree with that.

"Ecclestone also warned Red Bull that they would be in breach of contract if the team end their partnership with engine manufacturers Renault and are forced to pull out of next season’s competition – something Red Bull have threatened to do."

Already posted that for you Bernie ;)

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-force-teams-back-to-v8-engines-a6700696.html
 
Deuse, keep in mind Bernie wants Red Bull to have a top engine and as they can't get one he's falling back on the "oh, they're rubbish" argument. It's the reason why Mercedes got sod all TV time in Suzuka, as they refused to back down and off Red Bull and power unit. In a roundabout kind of way his explanation for them being unsuitable is that some engines are too good.

He's lost control of F1 - there was a time that he'd sort people out by banging their heads together (not literally I hope), but he doesn't have that power any longer - the teams hold all of the cards now and his only weapon is to deny them TV time, which isn't going to cut the mustard.


mctiny said:
Time for reform :D
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I'm not sure I'd want the big four (or big two as it stands) teams to have even more control over F1.



deuse said:
No Peraltada corner :mad:
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It's not been used for any decent level of single-seater motorsport for more than a decade now. Indycar always used the micky-mouse-under-the-baseball-stadium option, albeit a little different to the redesign. There's a whacking great big motorway behind it, so they can't simply extend the run-off, and there's not a chance in hell they'd allow F1 cars to go through there with such a slim run-off. I think the only decent series in the last couple of decades to use the old Peraltada is NASCAR.

It's a shame as it was the defining corner of the track since its inception in the 60s, but it's one of the changes they had to make. I'm sure they could have come up with something better than the ******** they've come up with though.

Edit: as MagicBoy says.
 
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this_is_gav said:
It's the reason why Mercedes got sod all TV time in Suzuka, as they refused to back down and off Red Bull and power unit. .
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Link?

It's hardly new that a run away team get's no air time. Even Ferrari used to get little air time when they were walking away with races if there was something else of interest. There have been plenty of races where the commentators have said at the end they have barely seen the winner as he's ran away at the front.

It really makes no sense that people think cutting their air time matters. What matter is them being on pole and crossing the line first.
 
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