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I fully expect part of RB’s deal will be that the overspend figure isn’t publicised.. Even Fred Vasseur was going on about it the other day. And he always seems really chilled out/grumpy. :D
 
KiNgPiN83 said:
I fully expect part of RB’s deal will be that the overspend figure isn’t publicised.. Even Fred Vasseur was going on about it the other day. And he always seems really chilled out/grumpy. :D
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There's no chance we'll find out the exact amount. They might say it was less than X amount but that's about it. And since the financial punishment seems to be the most likely outcome they'll fine RB multiples of that amount.
 
Press conference called by FIA for 10:30AM local time tomorrow. Expect wishy washy ‘punishment’ for Red Bull to be announced and then Horner to either say ’i told you all it was nothing’ or ‘I still maintain we didn’t exceed the budget but accepted the FIA’s offer to draw a line under it for the benefit of the sport’
 
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MissChief said:
Press conference called by FIA for 10:30AM local time tomorrow. Expect wishy washy ‘punishment’ for Red Bull to be announced and then Horner to either say ’i told you all it was nothing’ or ‘I still maintain we didn’t exceed the budget but accepted the FIA’s offer to draw a line under it for the benefit of the sport’
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It really needs to be some sort of penalty that will ensure compliance or other teams will just overspend as well.

Also RB saying it was non performance things like garden leave doesn't matter. I remember RB and Merc arguing over an employees garden leave a year or two ago trying to get him out of it early. If a team can afford to keep high skilled staff out of the hands of another team for a year that's a massive benefit.
 
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So RB are a bunch of cheats? Maybe Horner should apologise to everyone he accused of inflammatory and slanderous accusations :rolleyes: ?
 
MissChief said:
Press conference called by FIA for 10:30AM local time tomorrow. Expect wishy washy ‘punishment’ for Red Bull to be announced and then Horner to either say ’i told you all it was nothing’ or ‘I still maintain we didn’t exceed the budget but accepted the FIA’s offer to draw a line under it for the benefit of the sport’
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I think your post is near enough word for word what a the Red bulls statement will be!
 
englishpremier said:
Yep Alpine win. Make sense, you can't penalise the team and driver because the RD and Marshalls didn't do their job properly.
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The responsibility to follow the rules lies with the teams not race direction. Under that argument any post race protest would be invalid.

Alpine should count themselves lucky that Haas didn't get the protest in before the deadline.
 
I read a story earlier where Lewis says he doesn’t want the title retrospectively. Luckily the FIA will almost certainly oblige. What I hope for most in this is that Horner gets taken down a peg or two as he really is a bit of a sausage.
 
Mr Jack said:
The responsibility to follow the rules lies with the teams not race direction. Under that argument any post race protest would be invalid.

Alpine should count themselves lucky that Haas didn't get the protest in before the deadline.
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Since there was no meatball flag the car must have been seen as safe during the race. In any case it doesn't really matter given the protest was later, and they have been awarded the points.
 
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KiNgPiN83 said:
What I hope for most in this is that Horner gets taken down a peg or two as he really is a bit of a sausage.
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As @MissChief said above, he'll spin it however he pleases. This is the man who started talking about his team as if they were the victims for breaching the budget cap and all the other nasty 9 teams were calling them meany names. He's a total bell.
 
englishpremier said:
Since there was no meatball flag the car must have been seen as safe during the race.
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No. There was no meatball flag because the stewards failed to note that Alpine had sent an unsafe car onto track. Just as with every other infraction that can be protested after the race, the onus is on the team/driver to follow the rules not on the race direction team to have picked it up at the time. If someone passes under yellows or safety and it get missed, it get reviewed with video footage after the race, same here.
 
KiNgPiN83 said:
I read a story earlier where Lewis says he doesn’t want the title retrospectively. Luckily the FIA will almost certainly oblige. What I hope for most in this is that Horner gets taken down a peg or two as he really is a bit of a sausage.
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I think an old football adage is relevant here, no player is bigger than the team. In this case no team is bigger than F1, think this applies to Redbull, Merc and Ferrari over recent years.
 
MissChief said:
Mexico, which is why I said local to the GP?
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Thanks for the clarification, you didn't actually say local to the GP, you just said "local time" but it's good to be sure - I was just looking to see if I could see it live in a few minutes :D

/edit - 10:30 Mexico is 16:30 BST.
 
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