On the plus side, Mick will be about a lot and probably Brundled on the grid etc. Always a cheery presence and a nice contrast to grumpy Dad / grumpy Step Dad Marko at Redbull.
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Some say that it was none and it was already part of the 2026 regulations and just added to the current regs.
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None of them did. It was being researched, but was never actually put on any of the cars over a race weekend.
Exactly, just a loophole closed: "The FIA has now confirmed that nobody on the grid had been running a banned brake system, but rather the wording of the rule change has been as such to prevent teams from falling foul in the future, and while this kind of system would have already been illegal from 2026, the wording has made it clearer in the rules."
An FIA spokesperson told Motorsport.com: “There is no truth that any team was using such a system.”
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Jazzy how? Haven't seen anything about this so would appreciate some details.
There was a lot of talk that there may be some teams using asymmetrical braking systems. (Similar to the third pedal McLaren in the 90’s but not via a third pedal.) So they’d be using different braking on each wheel to get the car turned into a corner better/better control under/over steer. Anthony Davidson was explaining it the other day but naturally Sky haven’t put it up anywhere.Jazzy how? Haven't seen anything about this so would appreciate some details.
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Ah so teams might use this to favour braking on one side of the car where a track had more turns in one direction than in the other?
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I mean it made sense that there was more than just aero to RB being so far ahead for a while. It looks like other teams have caught onto whatever they were doing.
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Something happened this season, we’ll probably never fully find out what but I can’t think of any recent seasons in like 20+ years where someone comes out race 1 with an absolute monster, wipes the floor with everyone for about 6 races then overnight they become human!
Either RB got told to stop doing something on the down low a la Ferrari a few years back or everyone’s found out what it was RB were doing and copied.
Either RB got told to stop doing something on the down low a la Ferrari a few years back or everyone’s found out what it was RB were doing and copied.
2009, although for very different reasons.
I think the other teams caught up, whilst Red Bull got bogged down in internal politics, and the consequences of more limited wind tunnel, etc time. I don't think there's any need for more hidden reasons than that.
Only McLaren seem to have genuinely worked it out.
The RB is still faster than the Ferrari and Merc.
I just saw this lolAs if by magic, they just uploaded it
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I also think that when Red Bull get less wind tunnel time what they really need is someone designing their cars who can think like a wind tunnel. Except he's off and so Red Bull get a double whammy - less wind tunnel time + less input from Newey that would normally offset their wind tunnel restriction. I also think that as Red Bull improved their car they were getting close to being in a situation where they have less potential to find in the car, like I think happened with Mercedes. Then the chasing pack have more potential in their cars and can make bigger gains. I think McLaren have done this and are making more of the potential in their car than Mercedes/Ferrari and as such are the team really taking it to Red Bull. I think if McLaren were chasing 2nd/3rd down Red Bull wouldn't mind but when you've got Lando or Oscar both able to fight for wins then that's going to really annoy Red Bull.
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So next race... Max is 5th.. and Piastri is winning with Norris in second.. what do the team do?
Shirley if they have any ambition for Norris to be champ this year they swap them around?? but what does that do to the team and to Piastri?
Shirley if they have any ambition for Norris to be champ this year they swap them around?? but what does that do to the team and to Piastri?
Yes the other teams have caught up and the Red Bull car has only been an evolution of last years car and that one a evolution of the year before.
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Would have thought they will have discussed this with both drivers and said to both of them, if the tables were the other way round we'd request Lando make way for Oscar. So it says to Oscar, if you want this to not happen again, beat Lando and be the leading driver in the drivers' championship next time.
I agree. It may not be clever braking systems but something has gone awry. Looking at their results for the first 4 or 5 races, when they won their closest rivals were generally 13-20 seconds down the road. Miami seems to be the definite drop off though. Albeit Mclaren's performance was also nowhere before Miami too...