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Scam said:
How? He single handedly lost them the constructor's title :confused:
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I just don't think constructors title is that important to Red Bull, certainly not in the same way as some of the car manufacturers. They still get to put a big number 1 on the front of their car. No one questioned that it was one of the quickest overall this season, the quickest for some of it. Plus to top it off they get more wind tunnel time to put into the car next year now that other teams are a threat to them. A reasonable amount of positives if you ask me.

Then there's the speculation about loss of earnings made up in sponsorship money. I'm not going to put too much weight on that as I haven't seen anything confirmed, but potentially one of the reasons Perez far outlasted any of the other recent drivers on that side of the garage. There's the merch side which seemed to have done pretty well despite his lackluster performance.
 
petridish said:
Then there's the speculation about loss of earnings made up in sponsorship money. I'm not going to put too much weight on that as I haven't seen anything confirmed, but potentially one of the reasons Perez far outlasted any of the other recent drivers on that side of the garage. There's the merch side which seemed to have done pretty well despite his lackluster performance.
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Perez did well in the early part of his stint, has won races, and gave Maxi the opportunity to win Max the title with his defending in Abu Dhabi. Never actually impressive he was at least a decent wingman at times. The bigger problem was that they failed to develop alternatives. Gasly and Yuki effectively seat blocking at Alpha Tauri meant they weren't bringing through the juniors they need, and the de Vries and Riccardo experiments failed. On top of that, the one class driver from elsewhere that came up (Sainz) had history with Max.

I think all of that was a bigger factor than anything to do with money.
 
Yes !
He's been sitting on the sidelines, watching from the pitlane for ~2 seasons, with the occasional opportunity to show what he can do.

Now is his time to shine :)
 
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Feek said:
That's the last thing Red Bull want. They want someone with performance between Checo and Max. If he was too close to Max, he wouldn't be in the team, that's why Yuki-san isn't there, I'm quite sure he wouldn't be prepared to play second fiddle to anyone.
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For sure - that's what I meant :)
 
SDK^ said:
Yes !
He's been sitting on the sidelines, watching from the pitlane for ~2 seasons, with the occasional opportunity to show what he can do.

Now is his time to shine :)
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I don't think anyone is expecting him to be better or on par with Max; realistically, nobody on the current grid is, but if he's fighting in the top 5, that'll be a huge win for RB and the sport in general.
 
Mr Jack said:
Perez did well in the early part of his stint, has won races, and gave Maxi the opportunity to win Max the title with his defending in Abu Dhabi. Never actually impressive he was at least a decent wingman at times. The bigger problem was that they failed to develop alternatives. Gasly and Yuki effectively seat blocking at Alpha Tauri meant they weren't bringing through the juniors they need, and the de Vries and Riccardo experiments failed. On top of that, the one class driver from elsewhere that came up (Sainz) had history with Max.

I think all of that was a bigger factor than anything to do with money.
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Fair points, I was more thinking this season in isolation and the fact that Red Bull kept him in the seat (at one point for the next 1 or 2 years) where they've been known to drop others mid season.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against him and have enjoyed his occasional brilliant race over the years. It's a shame he's ending his time as the butt of many jokes.
 
petridish said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against him and have enjoyed his occasional brilliant race over the years. It's a shame he's ending his time as the butt of many jokes.
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Yeah, the stint at Red Bull has been something of a Monkey's Paw for him. Had he left having stayed in the midfield, he'd have left with a great reputation as a driver able to ring results out of ordinary cars and plenty of people claiming he'd have done great things "if only he'd had the car to do it", whereas his time in Red Bull means he leaves with a clutch of wins, podiums and poles under his belt, a healthy trophy cabinet, and a much stronger bank balance but a much worse reputation.

I always liked Checo but his limits have been well and truly found.
 
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