Motorway cops - cops out of order?

not detracting from the fact he acted like a tool and brought it on himself

i agree, i wouldnt leave my phone, nor would i take out cash. They should tell you before you fill up that they cant take cards. I never pay cash for petrol and never have cash in my wallet. This could quite easily happen to me. Somebody posted on PH that this happened to them, they filled them form in and that was that

just the person serving behind the counter didnt have the best grasp of english and just stupidly called the cops on him.
 
MrLOL said:
not detracting from the fact he acted like a tool and brought it on himself

i agree, i wouldnt leave my phone, nor would i take out cash. They should tell you before you fill up that they cant take cards. I never pay cash for petrol and never have cash in my wallet. This could quite easily happen to me. Somebody posted on PH that this happened to them, they filled them form in and that was that

just the person serving behind the counter didnt have the best grasp of english and just stupidly called the cops on him.
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There is clearly more to the story than "he didn't speak good english".
 
MrLOL said:
not detracting from the fact he acted like a tool and brought it on himself

i agree, i wouldnt leave my phone, nor would i take out cash. They should tell you before you fill up that they cant take cards. Somebody posted on PH that this happened to them, they filled them form in and that was that

just the person serving behind the counter didnt have the best grasp of english and just stupidly called the cops on him.
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agree with this, the guy in the petrol station was a muppet

So that concludes this thread to:

>Person at car dealership who fudged up the plates = TOOL

>Immigrant working at Petrol station = TOOL

>Young lad swearing at the Police = TOOL

>Cop allegedly talking down to the public and man handling him, chucking keys away = TOOL

As you can see, one tool leads to another and this shows the effect of bad luck and the wrong way of dealing with it. :)
 
yeah i think theres blame on both sides

the guy was unlucky, the false plates beint put on and the petrol being "stolen" werent his fault. Also, i think the cops were enjoying being on telly just a little too much. The whole lone ranger thing and all. And they were very agressive, and the lad probably was bemused as much as anything

but then, the guy was a tool. the VDRS clearly states you cant drive your car untill its fixed, hes driven round on false plates and its somebody else's fault. As housemaster said, he did nothing to gain respect, acted like a tool and had a chip on his shoulder. He still does on PH. everything is somebody elses fault. Nowhere does he conceed he could have handled things differently. The whole thing could have been avoided, if when pulled he said "i know why you've pulled me, ive got false plates on, but let me explain ....."

He needs to grow up and loose the chip on his shoulder. And the police officers in question overreacted a bit as well.
 
Just watched this and I have to say that was an agressive move by the police car to stop the Civic in the first place normally they stop behind it obviously thinking he was going to speed away, I would be upset if a police man removed me from my car in that way. If that had been my car the drivers door would have been locked with anti-highjack so chances are they would have smashed the window.

Yes he shouldn't have been driving about on the wrong plates however I got stopped the same way the day I picked up my car as the reg hadn't updated on the incar computer however they never dragged me out the car.
 
What about the twins lecturing the two lads who went out for a drive to see the floods?

Since when do you have to have a reason for being out other than fancying a look out in your car?
 
Mr Joshua said:
What about the twins lecturing the two lads who went out for a drive to see the floods?

Since when do you have to have a reason for being out other than fancying a look out in your car?
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I can't honestly think of anything more stupid than going out for a drive down country lanes on the evening of the worst flooding in the area for absolutely years.
 
[TW]Fox;10908135 said:
I can't honestly think of anything more stupid than going out for a drive down country lanes on the evening of the worst flooding in the area for absolutely years.
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Driving with known false plates...


;)
 
Mr Joshua said:
Me neither but I don't see the problem if they weren't getting themselves into trouble or putting themselves in harms way.
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A few hundred yards down the road the water was so deep they couldn't even get a tractor through it. It was still raining. In what way were they NOT putting themselves in harms way?
 
He shouldn't have kicked off.

Oh, and the plates are his fault, not the companies.

As the driver you are responsible to make sure the car is roadworthy.
 
MrLOL said:
to all those wondering how an 18 year old afforded a Civic Type R

he plays for birmingham City reserves. reserves or not, i bet he gets more than us fools do ;)
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Well what a way to get a good reputation for the younger generation wanting to be footballers. Act like a fanny to the cops gets you nowhere fast.
 
Booner! said:
The officer did threaten to arrest him.

The lad said "for what?"

Officer basically for saying swear words.

The lad said "that's how I talk, what of it"

Can you be arrested for swearing in a sentence? At the end of the day its down to how you use the swearword and if the person is offended by it. I don;t care if people swear at me as it's only an arrangement of letters! But if they used my mother in the remark, I would probably kick off!
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oh come on, that's balls

you don't openly swear at a policeman-officer, if you do unprovoked, you deserve to be put down
 
bledd. said:
oh come on, that's balls

you don't openly swear at a policeman-officer, if you do unprovoked, you deserve to be put down
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If you read through the thread, you will see that I watched it again and totally agree he is a tool... catch up.

I saw a programme on the PCSO's (community police with no power) where chavs would walk up and swear at them constantly and intimidate them. Believe me, people do actually swear at police, unprovoked. It's a harsh world out there and not everything is covered in cotton wool. :)

For the record it wasn't unprovoked either... the lad had just allegedly been pulled from his car without justification first, push around a bit and intimidated by the police. This no doubt rattled his cage a bit and where most people would have just got angry or scared, this lad got mouthy/cocky (possibly because he is a sore loser and plays football - reference = bebo page)
 
Booner! said:
>Cop allegedly talking down to the public and man handling him, chucking keys away = TOOL

As you can see, one tool leads to another and this shows the effect of bad luck and the wrong way of dealing with it. :)
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The thing is, all of them can be tools and it doesn't matter. The worst thing that can happen is a dodgy car, or a few words lost in translation. The police, though? They can't be. They have a duty of care to the public, but they often cannot control themselves to ensure that duty is carried out. They can often be arrogant, suggestive and insulting, as well as failing to realise their purpose. Of course those kind may be in the minority, but with the authority they yield the minority is an unacceptable number.
 
I don't get why people are saying it's unjustified, the police at the time where acting on the information they had IE it was possible stolen and had done a drive off. If those two things had of turned out to be true when then whis whole discussion wouldn't have taken place.

If it had of been a stolen car and he hadn't of ragged him out and took his keys and the car drove off then the bobby would have failed big time
 
Booner! said:
The officer did threaten to arrest him.
The lad said "for what?"
Officer basically for saying swear words.
The lad said "that's how I talk, what of it"
Can you be arrested for swearing in a sentence? At the end of the day its down to how you use the swearword and if the person is offended by it. I don;t care if people swear at me as it's only an arrangement of letters! But if they used my mother in the remark, I would probably kick off!
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Apologies but it is very rare I look up somebody's age on here but this paragraph sums up how SOME young people think.
I find it astonishing that Booner could ever think its OK to swear in front of the Police.
Granted, they'll now warn you over & over but in the old days one swear word would have got you nicked.
It is never OK to swear in front of people in authoritaaaay.

After reading the lads 'confession' on PH I do feel a bit of sympathy for him and I do believe the original cops who picked him up did give him 14 days which he interpreted as 'I'm OK for 14 days' - I would have done.
However, the cops belived they were after a criminal who had stolen petrol and nicked a car and possibly on a crime rampage.
When the car pulled over the cops have to react quick because a lot of drivers pull off again and just remember this lad was a criminal up to that point.

Moral :
If you are totally in the right and you get pulled over, be nice & helpful because it really does go a long way and the very last thing cops want to do is paperwork.
 
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