Mountain Biking

pumaz · 11 Oct 2019 at 22:39

Just seen that Halfords is listing the new 2020 Voodoo Bizango Carbon for £1000, I wonder if it’ll still be best in price range?

iMacMart · 11 Oct 2019 at 22:48

pumaz said:
not installed it yet, I’m going to take the frame to be powder coated next week then do all the modes and upgrades as I build it back up.

I’ll be attempting it tomorrow...

DereksDontRun · 11 Oct 2019 at 23:46

robj20 said:
I would absolutely love a new frame/bike but so much had changed mostly in wheel standards.
Seems 26" has disappeared.

since 26" (so last 6 years?) I think there's been:

dropper posts were only just becoming poplar at the end of 26, i think?

complete confusion with wheels:
wheels 26 -> 27.5 -> 29 -> 27.5+ -> fatbikes -> 29 -> mullet
tyres widths have also increased, 26 were usualy about 2-2.2", now most are about 2.4"

generally "trail" bikes have become more aggressive:
frames have become longer and slacker
more suspension - e.g. "trail" bikes now regularly having 150mm
4 pot brakes now almost the norm with Sram Guides v popular
tubeless setup v common with most rims tubeless-ready

along with slacker bikes the cockpit has changed
stems now generally shorter (35-50mm)
bars now generally wider (up to 800mm)
combining brake & shifter mount for same makes

drivetrain
1 x setups now the norm - what was 1x11 being "premium" is now 1x12 (and now 1x13 is being demo'd)
electric shifting now available (as well as electric/remote dropper)

new standards
pressfit BB were common and now DUB is SRAM's standard with their 1x12 Eagle groupset
1 1/8-1.5 tapered steering on most forks
integrated headsets?
handlebars now 35mm dia as well as 31.8
boost axle width change

and now backpacks seem to being dropped for bum-bags ?!?!? Mullet bikes and bum-bags, what's happening with the 80s revival?

Begbie · 11 Oct 2019 at 23:53

DereksDontRun said:
and now backpacks seem to being dropped for bum-bags ?!?!? Mullet bikes and bum-bags, what's happening with the 80s revival?

I acctually want a bumbag, I just tie stuff to my bike thesedays and it's so much comfier.

robj20 · 12 Oct 2019 at 06:29

DereksDontRun said:
since 26" (so last 6 years?) I think there's been:

dropper posts were only just becoming poplar at the end of 26, i think?

complete confusion with wheels:
wheels 26 -> 27.5 -> 29 -> 27.5+ -> fatbikes -> 29 -> mullet
tyres widths have also increased, 26 were usualy about 2-2.2", now most are about 2.4"

generally "trail" bikes have become more aggressive:
frames have become longer and slacker
more suspension - e.g. "trail" bikes now regularly having 150mm
4 pot brakes now almost the norm with Sram Guides v popular
tubeless setup v common with most rims tubeless-ready

along with slacker bikes the cockpit has changed
stems now generally shorter (35-50mm)
bars now generally wider (up to 800mm)
combining brake & shifter mount for same makes

drivetrain
1 x setups now the norm - what was 1x11 being "premium" is now 1x12 (and now 1x13 is being demo'd)
electric shifting now available (as well as electric/remote dropper)

new standards
pressfit BB were common and now DUB is SRAM's standard with their 1x12 Eagle groupset
1 1/8-1.5 tapered steering on most forks
integrated headsets?
handlebars now 35mm dia as well as 31.8
boost axle width change

and now backpacks seem to being dropped for bum-bags ?!?!? Mullet bikes and bum-bags, what's happening with the 80s revival?

I have a dropper, SRAM XX1, SRAM/hope combined shifter/brake mounts.

It seems to be mostly the change in wheel specs stopping me just changing my frame and obviously forks would need changing as well. Got lyric rc2dh tapered at the minute.

I'd like something a lot more cross country that can still do the odd bit of aggressive riding.
My Nomad is looking very beaten up now.

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 11:33

Chaps are my Voodoo Bizango 2018 tyres tubeless ready? I’m a bit confused looking online, also what’s people recommended tubeless kit if so .... thanks in advance

bloodiedathame · 14 Oct 2019 at 11:37

What tyres and rims do you have? If you take off the tyre and take out the tube, if you can't see any spoke holes then you're probably in luck.

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 11:47

bloodiedathame said:
What tyres and rims do you have? If you take off the tyre and take out the tube, if you can't see any spoke holes then you're probably in luck.

Hi mate, whatever the standard was out of the factory, will check, any kits or aim for or avoid

bloodiedathame · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:15

Well, the go to is Stans, they do the valves, liquid and tape if you need it. You might also want to get the syringe and a tool that you can easily take out the valve core with, and maybe a compressor to get the tyres inflated without breaking a sweat.

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:24

bloodiedathame said:
Well, the go to is Stans, they do the valves, liquid and tape if you need it. You might also want to get the syringe and a tool that you can easily take out the valve core with, and maybe a compressor to get the tyres inflated without breaking a sweat.

Compressor :eek:

bloodiedathame · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:34

Haha, yeah, my tyres are 2.8 so I can't get air in fast enough with my track pump to get them to seal on the rim, I took mine to my local bike shop to pump up for me however.

You might be able to get away with one of these: https://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-airblast-tubeless-tyre-track-pump-1

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:40

I've got one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009KLWRG0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not sure its up to this game though

FYI - These are my tyres
Tyres: Maxxis Ardent, 60TPI, folding bead
Tyre Size: 29" x 2.25"

robj20 · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:41

bloodiedathame said:
Haha, yeah, my tyres are 2.8 so I can't get air in fast enough with my track pump to get them to seal on the rim, I took mine to my local bike shop to pump up for me however.

You might be able to get away with one of these: https://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-airblast-tubeless-tyre-track-pump-1

I use a 2liter coke bottle. Pump that to about 80psi and release it all in one go into the new tyre usually does the job first time.

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 12:51

robj20 said:
I use a 2liter coke bottle. Pump that to about 80psi and release it all in one go into the new tyre usually does the job first time.

That sounds very "A-Team" tell more

Like how are you connecting the pump to the bottle, then back to the tyre

robj20 · 14 Oct 2019 at 13:43

iMacMart said:
That sounds very "A-Team" tell more Like how are you connecting the pump to the bottle, then back to the tyre

I fitted a valve to the lid and a valve to the bottom.
Took the core out of one and connected a pipe from that to the bike tyre valve.
The other valve I connect my pump to.
I put a fold in the hose between the bottle and tyre, pump the bottle up then release the fold in the hose, tyre instantly pops onto the rim and inflates.

DereksDontRun · 14 Oct 2019 at 14:28

haven't you only just got the bike? ride/enjoy it and don't fret about tubeless yet. If you're not getting the occasional puncture (or snake-bite) then you're arguably not going to benefit. (as you're either not riding rough enough terrain or running low enough pressures to need it). One day, sure, but no need to change everything within 2 mins of getting the bike

iMacMart · 14 Oct 2019 at 14:47

DereksDontRun said:
haven't you only just got the bike? ride/enjoy it and don't fret about tubeless yet. If you're not getting the occasional puncture (or snake-bite) then you're arguably not going to benefit. (as you're either not riding rough enough terrain or running low enough pressures to need it). One day, sure, but no need to change everything within 2 mins of getting the bike

My friends are going out weekly on local trials, paths and 3 of them got punctures this weekend, I'm happy to do it now and not faff with repair kits down the line

One More Solo · 14 Oct 2019 at 19:48

Does anyone do any MTB racing? Where would I find event listings?

DereksDontRun · 14 Oct 2019 at 21:28

One More Solo said:
Does anyone do any MTB racing? Where would I find event listings?

british cycling's events are here: https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/events?search_type=upcomingevents&zuv_bc_event_filter_id[]=7
more dirt has some more listing here: https://www.moredirt.com/events/
and there's some events (not really races) here: https://www.ukcyclingevents.co.uk/events/discipline/mtb/

Walkerie · 14 Oct 2019 at 23:06

Can anyone recommend any padded shorts? I keep looking at some cheapies on amazon/ebay but don't want to get stung with poor ones. I'd like some that won't keep riding up/down if possible so any recommendations would be awesome