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But the players do have a direct influence over his sacking, all relative imo.
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Mourinho Sacked! Solskjær new interim manager
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Some overlap is understandable but as a rough guide, if the main part of the post isn't discussing the managerial situation at all then it goes else where. Your post in isolation isn't a big problem but it won't be long until this thread is just discussing Utd's squad and who they should sell or sign.
Pogba took two years to sign - given he was signed in the same window as JM its pretty ****** obvious he wasn't JM's choice - and there is absolutely no chance in **** that JM did anything other than come in right at the end of this deal just as it got over the line.
Sanchez was signed by the board even though JM wanted Perisic (which was again very obvious at the time) - but the board were more interested in Chile / South American marketing
Its also heavily debatable whether even Lindelöf was JM's pick - given that he mostly goes for experienced players. Significant rumours that Fred was bought over his head also given how much time he spent on the bench while JM was there.
Actually it was the board not releasing the required amount (Perisic was reportedly only £4m or so more but the board wouldn't approve it) - so just because there is so much money in the game has no relation what so ever with whether said board is releasing it to which ever manager. And look at the Spurs situation now, they are extendning his contract because he is refusing to sign a new contract...so come the summer £25m clause will reportedly be in there as well. Even if it isn't it wouldn't be surprising to see him sold for that amount. £35-40m to have a high quality even if only available for 2 -3 seasons (from last summer) would probably have been jumped at by Spurs IF the Man Utd board would have approved it.....but they were never going to.
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Oh look, Frank making more evidenceless claims. You should write for the Daily Mail.
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Yeah obviously, but saying Mourinho didn't want Pogba is just silly. IIRC he even wanted him back when he was at Chelsea. The rest of post is just utter twaddle.
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Perisic himself said there was a concrete bid from Utd and that he CHOSE to stay. But Frank says that Woodward refused to sign him over the cost and thus that is fact. I'll believe Frank over Perisic himself.... sure.
It's funny how when Woodward, Levy, Perisic and those who actually report fairly reliably on these people all say one thing, but the people who love Mourinho have a completely different take on the story, always with no real sources, always random rumours they picked up from nowhere and all magically confirming the version of events they wanted to believe.
Pogba is obviously a terrible player that every manager would hate to have, particularly when you have the strength of depth in midfield such as Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick.... and frankly can't remember who else they were playing there before Pogba joined. Almost every manager in europe would have been happy with that midfield and bought elsewhere in the side. It's not like Frank and every other Utd fan, and every other football fan all knew the Utd midfield needed better players since a couple years before Fergie retired.
Were Utd going after him before Mourinho joined, maybe, does that mean Mourinho couldn't have vetoed the deal when he became manager, nope. If he'd said I'll never play that guy then it's unlikely the club would have signed him.
There are few clubs, even those with boards of directors or groups who deal with scouting who entirely ignore the manager. Only fans who get this narrow minded idea of hearing other people are involved in decisions and feel both this is new/recent to football (it isn't) and that having other people involved means the manager gets no say (almost never true). WIth Rodgers it was fans who liked Rodgers blamed the transfer panel/board/whatever it was called for lumping Rodgers with bad players, for fans that didn't like Rodgers it was Rodgers fault and the board were only buying who he asked them to.
THe reality of life is managing a team is a big job, managers have not sat down alone with agents and written up the paperwork and done all negotiating themselves since the contracts got complex and the wages were more than a couple hundred quid a week.
I've seen the same recently, Wenger isn't responsible for Ozil's wage, he just tells the board to resign him and they do so with zero input and Wenger has zero say in the wages. The reality is yes, he tells them to negotiate a new deal, he also talks over what wages he thinks he's worth, then a round of negotiating happens. Whoever does the actual talking in the room with Ozil's agent gives demands and they go back to Wenger to say they won't sign for lets say 250k a week, they are demanding 400k a week. Wenger at this point either says tell him to **** off, or tell him we'll go up to 375k a week, etc.
There is zero chance they signed Ozil on that deal without Wenger both approving or even knowing about the wage, none. There is no chance Mourinho wasn't told they could get Pogba, does he want him, he said no and they bought him anyway. It's just, it's stupid. No board spends 90mil straight up and 10s of millions more on wages for a manager who will refuse to play him. Nor was there any reason at all for Mourinho to refuse buying him, the team desperately needed world class midfielders.
Almost any well run club will have scouts, have people the scout reports to, compile short lists, work with the manager and come up with a plan of who to attempt to buy, what would be sensible prices for transfers and wages and then depending on how negotiations go the plans change. If a manager says he wants a CB and the board contact the club that owns the CB and gets told a completely ridiculous sum and tell the manager they can't afford him, that is just reality and probably happens to every single manager in every single window, probably a few times per window. Woodward didn't fail because Levy didn't want to sell Alder and lack of new CBs isn't why Utd were playing terrible football for the last year.
Perisic himself said there was a concrete bid from Utd and that he CHOSE to stay. But Frank says that Woodward refused to sign him over the cost and thus that is fact. I'll believe Frank over Perisic himself.... sure.
It's funny how when Woodward, Levy, Perisic and those who actually report fairly reliably on these people all say one thing, but the people who love Mourinho have a completely different take on the story, always with no real sources, always random rumours they picked up from nowhere and all magically confirming the version of events they wanted to believe.
Pogba is obviously a terrible player that every manager would hate to have, particularly when you have the strength of depth in midfield such as Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick.... and frankly can't remember who else they were playing there before Pogba joined. Almost every manager in europe would have been happy with that midfield and bought elsewhere in the side. It's not like Frank and every other Utd fan, and every other football fan all knew the Utd midfield needed better players since a couple years before Fergie retired.
Were Utd going after him before Mourinho joined, maybe, does that mean Mourinho couldn't have vetoed the deal when he became manager, nope. If he'd said I'll never play that guy then it's unlikely the club would have signed him.
There are few clubs, even those with boards of directors or groups who deal with scouting who entirely ignore the manager. Only fans who get this narrow minded idea of hearing other people are involved in decisions and feel both this is new/recent to football (it isn't) and that having other people involved means the manager gets no say (almost never true). WIth Rodgers it was fans who liked Rodgers blamed the transfer panel/board/whatever it was called for lumping Rodgers with bad players, for fans that didn't like Rodgers it was Rodgers fault and the board were only buying who he asked them to.
THe reality of life is managing a team is a big job, managers have not sat down alone with agents and written up the paperwork and done all negotiating themselves since the contracts got complex and the wages were more than a couple hundred quid a week.
I've seen the same recently, Wenger isn't responsible for Ozil's wage, he just tells the board to resign him and they do so with zero input and Wenger has zero say in the wages. The reality is yes, he tells them to negotiate a new deal, he also talks over what wages he thinks he's worth, then a round of negotiating happens. Whoever does the actual talking in the room with Ozil's agent gives demands and they go back to Wenger to say they won't sign for lets say 250k a week, they are demanding 400k a week. Wenger at this point either says tell him to **** off, or tell him we'll go up to 375k a week, etc.
There is zero chance they signed Ozil on that deal without Wenger both approving or even knowing about the wage, none. There is no chance Mourinho wasn't told they could get Pogba, does he want him, he said no and they bought him anyway. It's just, it's stupid. No board spends 90mil straight up and 10s of millions more on wages for a manager who will refuse to play him. Nor was there any reason at all for Mourinho to refuse buying him, the team desperately needed world class midfielders.
Almost any well run club will have scouts, have people the scout reports to, compile short lists, work with the manager and come up with a plan of who to attempt to buy, what would be sensible prices for transfers and wages and then depending on how negotiations go the plans change. If a manager says he wants a CB and the board contact the club that owns the CB and gets told a completely ridiculous sum and tell the manager they can't afford him, that is just reality and probably happens to every single manager in every single window, probably a few times per window. Woodward didn't fail because Levy didn't want to sell Alder and lack of new CBs isn't why Utd were playing terrible football for the last year.
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In the right team Im sure he would have, but not in this Utd squad which is world away from (either) Chelsea squad you are referring to.
Because every footballer under the sun always forces his way out in the same situation - NOT.
And stop inventing things yourself - I have never said Pogba is a terrible player (although he has wondered through a lot of games in the last two seasons while barely lifting a finger). Its also quite probable with the squad in the state it was in three summers ago that JM would have chosen a completely different type of midfielder to spend £90m or whatever on.
Just because one manager doesn't agree wages (or at least a wage limit before negotiations, esp if it affects other signings) doesn't mean they all don't do that. Not all clubs are run the same way. If a DoF or something similar is in the structure then he will likely do some /all of the negotations….but doesn't mean the manager wont have input in certain details in player contracts.
There is also a finite amount of cash to spend if the manager wants/ needs x amount of players he may choose to not spend a high proportion on a player that is notoriously weak in certain factors he favours (for right or wrong).
Every single top level manager has types of player they prefer to work with from personal experience.
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LOL WTF. Ole Solskjaer any day of the week.
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We're going to be linked with every manager at some point over the next 4 months, doubt there is anything in it.
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I think this is more media bull.
More likely Sky Bet drumming up some busness.
No way on Earth that clown would be considered.......if true I may hand my season tickets back.
More likely Sky Bet drumming up some busness.
No way on Earth that clown would be considered.......if true I may hand my season tickets back.
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Agree with this.
Poch would cost around £30 mill though, as Levy would play hard-ball.
Interestingly, how this pans out will indicate the future intentions of the Glazers.....if they invest then they are here for the long haul......if not, then the rumours of them selling soon could be correct (sits down and prays this is true)
Southgate would amazing .Please please get him.
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Stadium pays for itself, just like Arsenal's. WE pay 18mil a year in stadium debt repayments.... our revenue went from ~50 to ~100mil. IE we immediately made 50mil more a year and with 95% of that being ticket income the profit margin of that 50mil revenue is exceptionally high. Meaning from pretty much day one we were 30mil better off every year since. Clubs wouldn't go for stadium expansions if they didn't help financially, if they'll cost more to pay off that you make in extra income the project doesn't get off the ground. If you can make more in extra revenue than the debt will cost to service it's a no brainer.
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