Mourinho Sacked! Solskjær new interim manager

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Psycho Sonny said:
The majority at Chelsea where he wasn't in charge of making signings.
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You can argue the same for every manager in the league though. Poch isn't in charge of transfers at Spurs. Klopp isn't at Liverpool, Pep isn't at City. They all have DOF who do that. The point isn't valid if you are going to cherry pick to suit the argument.
 
davejh666 said:
You can argue the same for every manager in the league though. Poch isn't in charge of transfers at Spurs. Klopp isn't at Liverpool, Pep isn't at City. They all have DOF who do that. The point isn't valid if you are going to cherry pick to suit the argument.
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that's highly debatable - Pep was agreeing to City's signings before he even officially took over (one of the major reasons he had such a good squad for when he arrived on day 1)
 
FrankJH said:
that's highly debatable - Pep was agreeing to City's signings before he even took the job (one of the major reasons he had such a good squad for when he arrived on day 1)
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What in the 2nd season when they got Walker, Mendy, Ederson, Bernardo Silva etc?

Managers will always have their input into who they would like. But at the top level these days those decisions are taken away from the manager for exactly the reason we now see at Utd. Managers come and go but the clubs must protect themselves from bad investments which is what Utd have not done. Woodward has made bad managerial decisions and bad purchases. For an attack minded coach now to come in the entire midfield needs replacing. Not one of them can pass a ball or has the creativity to open things up.
 
davejh666 said:
Ajen Robben. Eden Hazard. Didier Drogba. Michael Essien. Petr Cech. Ashley Cole. Mesut Ozil. Raphael Varane.

None of those were 'World Class' when he signed them. Quite a few of them turned into world class players.
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I'm not sure how well you thought through your list. Robben, Cech and Hazard weren't signed by Mourinho at all - Robben and Cech were signed midway through the season before Mourinho arrived and Hazard a full season before Mourinho's return. Cole was already the best LB in the world when Chelsea signed him. As for Essien & Drogba, they had maybe 2 and half world class seasons between the pair of them. Varane barely featured under Mourinho and has only gone on to become a world class player after he left. That leaves Ozil.
 
I really want Poch now just to see the sad faces of all the Tottenham fans who are so adamant that Poch will never leave them. He turned down Real Madrid in the summer don't you know!
 
BaZ87 said:
I'm not sure how well you thought through your list. Robben, Cech and Hazard weren't signed by Mourinho at all - Robben and Cech were signed midway through the season before Mourinho arrived and Hazard a full season before Mourinho's return. Cole was already the best LB in the world when Chelsea signed him. As for Essien & Drogba, they had maybe 2 and half world class seasons between the pair of them. Varane barely featured under Mourinho and has only gone on to become a world class player after he left. That leaves Ozil.
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ozil lol who cant even get into the arsenal team and been sacked off by germany
 
BaZ87 said:
I've no idea where these two names have come from, your personal preference, media speculation or whether they are two possible names Utd are looking at but if there's anything in it then I'd be worried. They're two completely different mangers, playing completely different styles of football. If Utd are considering both of them then it will show again that they have no idea what they're doing and just looking for any manager that might be good rather than a manager that fits into an overal plan.
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It's just some that were mentioned as being candidates. Simeone is obviously an amazing manager, but he's too like Mourinho and as you say, operates in a totally different way to Poch.

BaZ87 said:
Solskjær and Phelan until the end of the season is being reported by a few journos.
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This is quite odd, I like Solskjær, but is he really better than Blanc...
 
fez said:
Nah, it will just be funny.
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Why? The plc you support has more money than a smaller club performing exceptionally well on a small budget?

God forbid their fans are excited about having a good (albeit quite flawed in many ways) manager and positive about him staying.
 
Robbo said:
It's just some that were mentioned as being candidates. Simeone is obviously an amazing manager, but he's too like Mourinho and as you say, operates in a totally different way to Poch.



This is quite odd, I like Solskjær, but is he really better than Blanc...
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Baby faced assassin :cool:. He would do anything for United and always had the passion!

 
Purdy said:
Why? The plc you support has more money than a smaller club performing exceptionally well on a small budget?

God forbid their fans are excited about having a good (albeit quite flawed in many ways) manager and positive about him staying.
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Yeah thats it. They're just excited to have a good manager and positive about him staying.

All the comments on the BBC are on the wind up about how Tottenham are a bigger club and why would he ever want to leave them for a club like United and how he turned down RM because Tottenham are so amazing.
 
It is a toxic nightmare for any coach taking over. 6 managers in 5 years, all of whom have been indulged with significant investment.

The result is a team with no clear style and identity. The incoming coach is going to have to forge an identity out of a lot of mismatched players and also bring success quickly.

Klopp and Pep both had quite poor opening seasons and then accelerated really well once their team starting solidifying. Both took over excellent team units with a sense of identity that could be adapted and improved. In addition, there were partnerships in the team that already existed.

This man utd team is a tear down and rebuild job. That comes with 18m of hubris. I'm not sure triple wood or the fans or the players are willing to accept that. This is a harder fix than Arsenal because there are no partnerships, chemistry or identity in the team .
 
Does sound like it will be Solskjær at this stage. The main job now is to get the squad together and instil some sort of attacking tactical philosophy - something he's done very well albeit at a much lower level.

So relieved Mourinho is gone though, I thought he might change but he was worse than ever, a poisonous waste of space.

From The Times:

Mauricio Pochettino wants to be considered for the Manchester United manager’s job next season despite having four and a half years left on his contract at Tottenham Hotspur.

The Argentinian is understood to regard the opportunity of moving to Old Trafford as too good to turn down, although it would cost United £34 million in compensation to prise him from Tottenham, which would take the club’s total bill for sacking José Mourinho earlier today past £50 million.

Pochettino refused to rule out the possibility of moving to United when asked about his intentions in a press conference today and is believed to have given the prospect serious thought already.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mauricio-pochettino-wants-united-job-but-would-cost-34m-ct7z9tj60
 
BaZ87 said:
I'm not sure how well you thought through your list. Robben, Cech and Hazard weren't signed by Mourinho at all - Robben and Cech were signed midway through the season before Mourinho arrived and Hazard a full season before Mourinho's return. Cole was already the best LB in the world when Chelsea signed him. As for Essien & Drogba, they had maybe 2 and half world class seasons between the pair of them. Varane barely featured under Mourinho and has only gone on to become a world class player after he left. That leaves Ozil.
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Robben and Cech arrived at Chelssea the same day Mourinho did. Do you really think he had no say in i

In my opinion Lahm and still Maldini were better than Cole, and he wasn't world class when he joined Chelsea.

Drogba was world class for more than you are giving him credit for. Essien, granted, was only world class for a season, unfortunately ruined by injury. But he was still world class for that year.

Spot on with Hazard though, I thought Mourinho signed him, sorry.

Varane played a lot under Mourinho considering he was only 18/19 when he joined. 15 league games in 12/13 is a fair amount for a footballer that young at the biggest club in the world.
 
Unbelievable opportunity for any manager to take on with the right mind set, unfortunately for them they employed 3 who certainly didn’t.


fez said:
Yeah thats it. They're just excited to have a good manager and positive about him staying.

All the comments on the BBC are on the wind up about how Tottenham are a bigger club and why would he ever want to leave them for a club like United and how he turned down RM because Tottenham are so amazing.
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I forget you must be new to being on the other end of a joke after watching manu have the easiest time for 20 years, also them showing pride in their club vs a fascist hole with some of the worst fans isn’t exactly outrageous

Meanwhile spurs have had like 4 good years since 1990 :D
 
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