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MSI gtx 670 Power edition "none oc" edition owners thread

Well the oc ppl mainly payed for a guaranteed stock oc speed compared to a potential oc from the 161 quid cards which at stock are 915mhz. If i had bought the oc version i too would be fuming like if "all or most" 161 quid ones were as good or better than the oc version of the card too but ocuk will probably just say well the oc one has a oc as stock speed where as the 161 quid one is 915mhz and u may or may not get any oc as it all is individual.

Doubt ull get anything but a refund offered cos its within 14 days providing u didnt unbox the card or are u allowed to i dunno?
 
my 161 quid card only does 50mhz offset, did 1150mhz boost,playing Tombraider for an hour,havnt tried the mem yet,asic is 77,temp is cool and quiet so overall for the price im happy
 
Jono8 said:
I'm already on to it via webnotes.

So in unigine yours boost to 1155? Mine only boosts to 1150 therefore my "overclocked version" is only equal to your non overclocked version of the card.

Surely that is simply false advertisement.
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Only problem is you paid for a card that is guaranteed to boost to 1079Mhz. Anything more than that is a bonus. SO if your card is boosting to 1079Mhz then really there is nothing wrong with it the fact it does not go higher is not really a fault of the card.

The non OC cards are only guaranteed to do 980Mhz so anything over that is a bonus.

Does your card do 1079Mhz boost ok ?
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Only problem is you paid for a card that is guaranteed to boost to 1079Mhz. Anything more than that is a bonus. SO if your card is boosting to 1079Mhz then really there is nothing wrong with it the fact it does not go higher is not really a fault of the card.

The non OC cards are only guaranteed to do 980Mhz so anything over that is a bonus.

Does your card do 1079Mhz boost ok ?
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That is irrelevant. The overclocked versions are more expensive and at stock should run faster than the stock cards before any overclocking is touched.

That has shown to not be the case and therefore selling the cards at a more expensive price and stating they are "overclocked" , when out of the box they can actually perform worse than a stock card out of the box is not right.

Regardless, overclockers have a 14 working day satisfaction gaurantee and i am not satisfied, so i either want the difference between the two cards refunded or i will just return it.
 
Isnt it just the boost that the stock cards seem to be having a improvment, is the core clock still not just 915mhz unless u manually overclock the core? The boost is adaptive on stock and oc versions.
 
SkeeterUK said:
Isnt it just the boost that the stock cards seem to be having a improvment, is the core clock still not just 915mhz unless u manually overclock the core? The boost is adaptive on stock and oc versions.
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Yes but the boost is essentially the only clock that matters as that is the clock it will run at under load/when playig a game...
 
Jono8 said:
That is irrelevant. The overclocked versions are more expensive and at stock should run faster than the stock cards before any overclocking is touched.

That has shown to not be the case and therefore selling the cards at a more expensive price and stating they are "overclocked" , when out of the box they can actually perform worse than a stock card out of the box is not right.

Regardless, overclockers have a 14 working day satisfaction gaurantee and i am not satisfied, so i either want the difference between the two cards refunded or i will just return it.
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It's not Overclockers fault, MSI send the cards with the relevant card info.

As your card exceeds the out the box clocks I can't see a issue.

At the end of the day it's a silicon lottery as to obtainable OC's
 
whyscotty said:
It's not Overclockers fault, MSI send the cards with the relevant card info.

As your card exceeds the out the box clocks I can't see a issue.

At the end of the day it's a silicon lottery as to obtainable OC's
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I am not talking about overclocking. These are OUT OF THE BOX boost clocks. Therefore it seems most of, if not all of the non overclocked editions people have mentioned here boost to the same as my "overclocked" edition. Mine does not overclock any further either.

I might add that Gibbo even said that the overclocked versions were the ones to get if you want to overclock....

My card cost £38 more and is no faster or more overclockable than these non overclocked versions. Can you not see why i take issue with that?
 
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if the card isn't what you expected, return it for a full refund. I highly doubt Overclockers would give you the difference. I'm not sure if the non-oc ones are available any more.
 
Jono8 said:
That is irrelevant. The overclocked versions are more expensive and at stock should run faster than the stock cards before any overclocking is touched.

That has shown to not be the case and therefore selling the cards at a more expensive price and stating they are "overclocked" , when out of the box they can actually perform worse than a stock card out of the box is not right.

Regardless, overclockers have a 14 working day satisfaction gaurantee and i am not satisfied, so i either want the difference between the two cards refunded or i will just return it.
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Not really as your card is performing as you expected when you purchased it. Just because something cheaper and possibly better comes along does not mean your card is not performing as it should be.

You card is overclocked and if it is meeting it's guaranteed clock speed then there is not really a lot you can do.

See what OC say but tbh I cannot see why they would refund anything just because your card is not performing as well as a lesser card but is performing as expected. I'm sure there will be people buying the OC card and getting big overclocks and people buying the non OC card an barely getting more than stock. Silicon lottery at its best.
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Not really as your card is performing as you expected when you purchased it. Just because something cheaper and possibly better comes along does not mean your card is not performing as it should be.

You card is overclocked and if it is meeting it's guaranteed clock speed then there is not really a lot you can do.

See what OC say but tbh I cannot see why they would refund anything just because your card is not performing as well as a lesser card but is performing as expected. I'm sure there will be people buying the OC card and getting big overclocks and people buying the non OC card an barely getting more than stock. Silicon lottery at its best.
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This nothing to do with the "silicon lottery". This is buying something that is expected to and advertised to perform better OUT OF THE BOX compared with the stock clocked card. This is why overclocked versions of cards fetch a premium over stock cards no ( in this case £38)?

But we have the situation that the supposed faster card that i have bought performs the same as the cheaper stock card. Again, no overclocking involved. We have both just installed are cards and let them run and your card runs faster than mine even though mine is rated to have higher clocks and run faster and is the more expensive card?

I am sorry but if you can't see the problem with that then there is something wrong with you

I wonder how you would feel if you were in my position...not the same i can assure you.
 
Mate I paid £950 quid for a Titan for them to release a 780 for £550 which for me was quicker than my Titan...

Speak to OC and see what can be done. But any OC over the factory OC is not guaranteed you will always have non OC cards that can overclock higher than some OC cards. Same with everything look at the 2600k vs 2700k for instance...

Good luck getting something sorted.

There is a lot wrong with me I have a big medical file but at least my luck with GPU's and the silicon lottery is doing well... :)
 
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DSR will mean you can return it, minus perhaps a restocking fee and shipping.

However your argument that you think it is performing out of specification due to it being in some cases slower than the non oc edition is really poor logic and it's hard to point out how wrong someones dogma is.

Just because a cheaper card outperforms occasionally its bigger sibling, does not make your purchase somehow missold, it just means those who took a gamble with the cheaper option got lucky.
 
yeah, i would just like to hear about how happy people are and what games they are currently testing the cards with.

Best bet is to send a long e-mail outlying what you expected when you bought it and your thoughts, and they may offer you a complimentary refund.
 
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