Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger for a quadcopter. I want something cheap so if I kill it it doesn't hurt so much. I also want something a bit noob proof because I will probably bump it around a bit. I would like it to have a camera.

I'm looking at this. Anyone got one? Can you recommend anything better?

I'd give one of these a go if I were starting out again.

 
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Make sure you grab some spare props!

There is also a FPV X4, but it's a big chunk more expensive and the battery life is pretty terrible I think!
 
Hubsan X4.

It feels like half the people in this thread have got into multirotors having bought an X4.

Ive got one on order. For £25 delivered I couldnt say no.

Ive also seen this RTF quad for beginners, its just over £100 with camera but not sure it can be adapted for FPV.
 
Think there is a separate thread for planes... But reminds me that I do definitely want to try a plane some time :) How much effort making the flying wing body?
Not sure I can be bothered with a helicopter though, not sure it would offer much over flying a quad unless I got good enough to fly upside down...
 
So flew the first time today with FPV, so much more fun! Here is a video on the second attempt (first time I crashed straight into a bush within 10seconds of take off lol)

(Not sure why youtube keeps messing with the quality)

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And some more pics:

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Nice one ash, now I'm jealous. You happy with the frame? (where did you get it).

I've got some new 1806 RCX motors due for a rebuild on the quad and might have to get one of these too!

Oh I see you dragged the missus out as a spotter, she has the same disinterested look as my wife going :)

how heavy is the frame compared to the fpv250?
 
Nice one ash, now I'm jealous. You happy with the frame? (where did you get it).

I've got some new 1806 RCX motors due for a rebuild on the quad and might have to get one of these too!

Oh I see you dragged the missus out as a spotter, she has the same disinterested look as my wife going :)

how heavy is the frame compared to the fpv250?

Very please with the frame I couldn't tell you the exact difference in weight but I don't think it's that much, I got it from makeitbuildit. The finish is really nice considering it's just a Chinese clone.

Yeah she wasn't very interested, being dragged out just to watch but you do feel weird blind folding yourself with goggles when there is dog walkers and horses around lol.

Ash, what goggles do you use?
Predator V2
 
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Very please with the frame I couldn't tell you the exact difference in weight but I don't think it's that much, I got it from makeitbuildit. The finish is really nice considering it's just a Chinese clone.

I crashed mine yesterday morning, about 100ft down onto the only piece of concrete for miles around :/ smashed all four props, ruined a battery, lost the battery alarm and 3 of the 4 anti jello balls... Not a scratch on the frame though :) I hope the möbius caught the crash, haven't been able to check yet
 
I crashed mine yesterday morning, about 100ft down onto the only piece of concrete for miles around :/ smashed all four props, ruined a battery, lost the battery alarm and 3 of the 4 anti jello balls... Not a scratch on the frame though :) I hope the möbius caught the crash, haven't been able to check yet

Sorry to hear that sounds very unlucky any idea what caused it?

Good to hear about the frame though. Post up the video if you have it.
 
I won't post any pics as I'm fairly sure you all know what a Hubsan X4 looks like, but here are a few thoughts.

First off, I was expecting a toy. Something like those little 2 channel Silverlit helis - couldn't be more wrong. It's sturdy, feels well made, and feels like it could take a bump. It's not the most impressive finish I've ever seen but that's not what this is for so doesn't bother me in the least. The controller unfortunately does feel like a toy but so far no issues with it and it's light which is great. The little LCD is a bit pants but once the quad is all set up, you don't look at it much so it's nothing to worry about.

I must comment on the manual for this, it's honestly one of the worst manuals I've ever had for anything I've ever bought. They would've done better to say "go online and google stuff, this book is for decorative purposes only". Looking past the usual spelling errors and grammatical slips, the info is about as useful as a car manual saying "use the spanner to change the tyre" in the flat tyre section.

No biggie however as there are lots of videos and guides online for this exact model.

Calibration of the controller had me stumped a bit but I soon found out that I'm using a slightly newer model than most of the online resources so once I found a resource that had the newer model it went much easier (if you'd like me to post a link, feel free to ask, I lost it but can find it again if you need).

My first flight, as you can imagine, was bumpy and filled with lots of "OH ****" moments. I took it very easy as I've also got a protective frame arriving soon and I didn't want to damage the quad.

My first impression is total and utter amazement. I was astonished to see how much lift these things generate. I was expecting it to be fairly clumsy and sluggish but even the slightest fiddle of the sticks and this baby responds faster than a house fly. You can also adjust the responsiveness on the controller so if it's all a bit fast as it was for me, you can tone it down until you get the hand of it - I thought this was an excellent feature. There is also an expert mode but I don't feel I'm qualified enough to comment on that yet but will do at some point in the future.

It gains altitude faster I could've ever imagined. Had you said to me ten years ago that this would be around someday, I'd have told you you're nuts and laughed at you. I think it's safe to say that brushless motors are one of the best things to happen to the RC hobby scene.

I haven't had a go with the camera yet but I'll be taking it to a park when the rest of the bits I've ordered arrive and I'll report back then with my results.

All in all I'm very impressed with this piece of kit. It's my first quad so have nothing to gauge it against but as a rough comparison to those aforementioned helis (the highest of which I own 4 channel) it's in a whole different league.

I would absolutely recommend this to anyone with a vague interest in RC. It's hands down one of the most fun gadgets I've bought since I bought my first RC heli a good three or four years ago.

For those interested, I bought:

The Hubsan X4 with camera: £35.89
Spare blades: £1.56
Protective ring: £5.19
5x Spare batteries: £9.04

Total: £51.68

My next purchase will most likely be a crash pack for £15.75. I also need to sort out a case of sorts to cart it around in.

Any questions, fire away :)



Oh and thanks for all the advice folks, much appreciated!
 
Oh and thanks for all the advice folks, much appreciated!

Great review... best bit of all, once you can fly a X4 well, you can fly any multirotor. If you could fly a X4 without crashes you can fly anything :)

My F550 compared with X4 is a big lumbering pussycat, easy mode!!!, even these 250 class birds no problems at all. Of course building them isn't easy, but the flying side of things you will have covered!


I gave my mate at work controls of Phantom after X4 and no problems at all... he was like, this is sooooo stable
 
Glad you like it Diddums. Wouldn't go quite as far as Flukester has in being able to fly anything if you can fly an X4, but you are certainly well on your way! :)

I let a mate have a quick fly with my quad yesterday, went pretty well! Still yet to convince any of my mates to buy one but getting closer! :p
 
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