Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

To be fair that sounds quite nice for someone who isn't familiar with flying a quad and just wants to do video. Doesn't sound much fun though!

Spooky - I'll post something up at the weekend if not before, I think it's all listed through this thread somewhere but I'll collate it :)

Ps - I've definitely burnt my finger again soldering. Nothing like as bad as I did when I melted the cable on the battery though. My delicate IT fingers aren't used to this! :D
 
I watched some of the Blade 350 QX videos and I thought it was a bit crazy that the relative mode control was limited to 45m height inside the 30m 'safe' zone, seemed a bit pointless having the snazzy mode if it's so limited :confused:

Still got the yaw problem with mine, can't find anything obvious with the motors, no idea how to test for a dodgy ESC... but I noticed every time I go into the receiver test on the KK2.0 the rudder reading will randomly change from -2 to 2, I subtrim it back to 0, and it will have changed again next time I check it back to -2 or 2, resetting the board has made no difference so I might order a USB thing to flash it to the latest version and see if that sorts it out.
 
To be fair that sounds quite nice for someone who isn't familiar with flying a quad and just wants to do video. Doesn't sound much fun though!

Not a fan of the 350 QX imo, as above its just not geared towards anyone who actually flies..

Phantom or nothing imo in this case!

I have neither so I'm not biased either way but from everything I've seen the Phantom seems to have much safer, laid back flight characteristics than the 350QX. The QX snaps into flips and turns far faster than videos I've seen of the Phantom, that kind of agility would lend itself to more advanced pilots and be much more fun I'd have thought.

I did think about the Phantom when I was deciding what to get as a first quad but it always looked too sedate for my liking even in manual mode. Then again if you want to take steady photos, trudge around in GPS assisted modes or have a calm quad to learn on the Phantom seems to be the better choice.
 
Review of the Blade 350QX from another forum:

So just came back from another 3-pack session with it. Anyone wanna buy a 350QX? :lol:

Ok, Good points:

SMART mode (IOC to us) - works perfectly as does the 30ft safety circle round the operator.

RTH mode - works great, better than Phantom really. When you engage it, the QX stops what it's doing and comes straight back. No ugly delays like when the Phantom lazily figures out whether it wants to come back or not and even when it's back, waits 60sec before it descends.

Battery life - Seems great although right now I'm basically trying to keep it off the ground more than having fun.

NOT Good points:

Smart Mode - Works ok as I said above but did you actually try to fly a quad for any length of time under IOC ? It's tough ! You have to switch off all the orientation processes in your head which is tough after years of flying/driving, especially as we all turn to look at the aircraft in the air, which is a fatal flaw in operating in IOC mode. So why not just fly in Stability?? Read below

Stability Mode - Holy-Pogo-Sticks Batman, this thing is bloody awful at maintaining any semblance of height. I realize that height control in this mode is off, but come on, it really is like I said before, like a 1980's R/C Helicopter where you have to throttle up and down constantly. I did a test with the QX holding a steady hover, I then put a lazy yaw into it and down comes the QX, and I mean, DOWN. So I gave it a little gas and up it shoots, too quickly so now I'm going through the bounce routine trying to get it back where it was.
The other thing I did was to leave it in a 30ft high hover without doing anything. It was doing really well, (It is stable) then for some reason she started to descend at an increasing rate ! Like, WTF really.

You can't fly circuits with this thing, you are constantly concentrating on your height and waiting for it to dump.

RTH Mode - It works great, like I say above, but the book says you can switch it off at any time, and in fact the RTF model uses the sprung [trainer] switch on the DX5 so all you have to do is depress it to get the QX back close to you and release it to get control back. Sounds good....... In reality when you press it, the QX comes straight back (No height ascent first so be sure you gas it up over tree height first), but now you want to take back control, well look out because, you guessed it, as soon as you release RTH the thing just about has a momentary epileptic seizure. Big body shake and because the motors are fighting the shake down she comes again so you have to put gas into it.

Landing - For the love of Pete, why did they make us slide the trim down to stop the motors?? That's insanity ! You drop the QX down nice and smooth which is already a chore because the throttle is so twitchy and you're bouncing up/down 3ft as you try to get the thing to the touchdown point, but when you do get it on the ground and the throttle is at 0%, you have to crank a spare finger to the trim button to switch the motors off. If you dare touch any stick as you reach for the trim button the thing reacts like it's in flight and tries to execute a maneuver. :roll:



No, I don't like it. It's not fun to fly. Fly the Phantom and you wish you had more batteries, it's relaxing, it does what it says on the box. This thing is a backward step in stable, easy to fly, quads.
I initially thought there could be an issue with the barometer but in SMART mode the thing has a very firm hold on height
 
It's alive! Plugged it all together, it spins motors in the right direction. Need to work out how to configure the channels properly (some are inverted)
Then I'll take it out for a very careful flight.

I spinned up one of the motors up to full with a prop on it whilst holding it on my desk. **** me it's got some thrust! :eek:
 
Care if you fpv today, just been up.
The cloud base is insanely low. Where I was, it was about 200 ft from ground level.
I was actually in the cloud at one point.
 
Ok verdict from maiden flight. Not even close to the smoothness of the hubsan X4, huge amounts of power. It's like going from an average family hatchback to a big lairy sportscar :D however it's still plenty controllable. Need to get some more pics up!

The auto level isn't really doing much at all that I can see, I've probably not set it up right. Switched it off and found the flight characteristics nice and predictable, it wobbles and shimmies in the air a little though. Think that is down to props not being well balanced at the moment, likewise need to calibrate the controller and ESCs properly.

All in all, well impressed that it works! Got a lot of room to improve but it's already fun :)
 
Guess I've missed all the negative stuff around them. I've heard of their frames before but never seen anyone disliking them for any reason!
Just had a quick 5 minute flight before it got dark after being out all day, this thing still scares me with how fast it is! :D I've managed to keep full throttle for maybe 1-2 seconds!

Anyway, some pics of how it is at the moment.

The Power Spiders sorted out with the bullet connectors and attached to the ESCs. Not attached to the frame but once the batteries are in place they're not moving! Kinda wishing I put a double 4mm connector between them to make the battery connection easier, but coping like this for now. Might get some proper plugs going forward when I don't need to buy a set of 20 when I only need a pair or 2.
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Ready in flight trim. The KK2 is on a foam pad, with the cables on there it hardly moves but got an elastic band holding it there to stop it moving. Does the trick nice. I'll do something more permanent when it's not being dismantled every other flight.
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I need to sort out flashing the Controller to 1.6 and getting SimonK on the ESCs to make it fly a bit smoother, don't suppose anyone here has the kit to flash them on ocuk that they would be happy to lend? (in exchange for some cash if need be!)
AVR Programmer
Socket Tool

Don't really want to go spend $25 on some stuff that I'll use for 10 minutes to flash then not touch for ages! I've got no problem with spend the $5 on the main programmer, it's just that socket tool being quite pricy!

Plan for tomorrow is to decide on the best way to set up the battery power monitor, I've been winging it so far and just playing it cautiously, lowest I've run the lipo is 3.7v per cell and they'll be fine down to 3.5v from what I've read. I know as I get more comfortable flying it that playing it safe will be harder so better to play it safe!
Need to look at wiring up the 12v lighting too, much needed in the lower light I'll be flying in now we are into Autumn.
 
Had my first crash landing, caused by pilot error. Pilot error in that I forgot to do pre flight checks... and check the props were mounted properly :(
Gave it some beans outside the house and a prop shot off, flipped and crashed into the floor. 2 Broken props, so looked worse than it was. Another important lesson learnt there, however only cheap props and no other damage :)

Didn't get a chance to do any proper cabling today, but sorted out the plug on the transmitter's lipo so I don't need to use AA batteries any longer. Hope to finish work in better time tomorrow and sort out the battery monitor on the KK2 and make a start on the led lighting.
 
totally missed this thread, I've been into multi-rotors for a while now

Not had much to fly mine recently though, I'll get some recent pics and details up when I'm home
 
Had my first crash landing, caused by pilot error. Pilot error in that I forgot to do pre flight checks... and check the props were mounted properly :(
Gave it some beans outside the house and a prop shot off, flipped and crashed into the floor. 2 Broken props, so looked worse than it was. Another important lesson learnt there, however only cheap props and no other damage :)
Nyloc nuts or Loctite always help :)


My Disco lives, it's a bit rough as I still need to heat shrink some stuff, stick some stuff down and the ESC-Motor wires are just soldered together for testing as my bullet connectors are in the post. :)

No build log as I started and just decided to get on with it, I'll get some photos up tonight though.
 
So... I need a bigger house, or that rotor guard thing for my Hubsan X4. Tiny high speed rotors + learner flyer + walls/cupboards/doors/ceilings/floors/fingers/legs = not good. :D
 
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