Soldato
I'll be up for that despite being only a newbie! Plus winter weather isn't that bad here in Wales, it's just cold!
Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread
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Soldato
A YouTube I watched last night said that a guy from Team Black Sheep (Raphael?) has been hit with a $10,000 Fine by the FAA for 'illegal' FPVing, going to fight it in the US Courts apparently, personally I don't hold out much hope for anything positive to come of it, US Courts don't take kindly to anyone (Especially foreigners) taking on their Establishment and will probably use it as an opportunity to clamp down hard, with all the other Aviation Authorities then following their lead. 
Is it possible to make one of these use the mobile network for control and video stream?
I think it would be fun to sit at home on the pc and fly one of these around town and beyond if it's got the battery life, has anyone done something like this?
I think it would be fun to sit at home on the pc and fly one of these around town and beyond if it's got the battery life, has anyone done something like this?
Soldato
A YouTube I watched last night said that a guy from Team Black Sheep (Raphael?) has been hit with a $10,000 Fine by the FAA for 'illegal' FPVing, going to fight it in the US Courts apparently, personally I don't hold out much hope for anything positive to come of it, US Courts don't take kindly to anyone (Especially foreigners) taking on their Establishment and will probably use it as an opportunity to clamp down hard, with all the other Aviation Authorities then following their lead.
That's fantastic news, I hope they throw the book at him big time, massively irresponsible and disrespectful both him and his mates. If this puts them out of the business of going to other people's countries and screwing up the hobby for them then it's only a good thing.
Have you seen the pdf of his defence? It's pretty damning of the laws in the US and his legal team have done their homework, there are so many gray areas in the regulations regarding small unmanned craft, from my admittedly limited legal knowledge I don't see the FAA having a leg to stand on.A YouTube I watched last night said that a guy from Team Black Sheep (Raphael?) has been hit with a $10,000 Fine by the FAA for 'illegal' FPVing, going to fight it in the US Courts apparently, personally I don't hold out much hope for anything positive to come of it, US Courts don't take kindly to anyone (Especially foreigners) taking on their Establishment and will probably use it as an opportunity to clamp down hard, with all the other Aviation Authorities then following their lead.
We will have to see what this will mean though, I doubt it will be "the end of our hobby is nigh" that so many drama queens seem to spout. However you're likely to see the laws in the US written in more black and white with less grey areas which for better or for worse always a good thing.
Will the CAA follow the FAA in a knee jerk reaction? Probably not, if you look on forums here then there at least seems to be dialogue between FPVers and the CAA to come to a mutual understanding.
http://www.skydrone.aero/
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Soldato
More clarification on rules sounds like a good thing to me. I've not looked closely yet due to no fpv gear, but from what I can gather it's a real pain in the rear over in the US. I get the impression that over in the UK it's a bit more common sense.
Managed another big crash with my quad this morning
- still yet to break anything other than frame arms and props though. Looks a bit sorry for itself mind! Was a bit of a stupid crash really; lost my orientation briefly and rather than playing it cool and hitting self level before landing flat ish I just throttled off and let it hit the grass. Insert cartwheeling quad here...
KK2 pins took a battering, but I've straightened them out and tested - still seems fine. All motors spin up and seem no worse than they were before (one of the motors is a bit rattly)
Definitely need to put some protection over the KK2, don't really want to smash that up
I guess it would be possible to some level. I don't think you'd manage live control due to latency, but I imagine it would be possible to remotely put in the gps coordinates of where you want to fly and watch it fly there.
Managed another big crash with my quad this morning
- still yet to break anything other than frame arms and props though. Looks a bit sorry for itself mind! Was a bit of a stupid crash really; lost my orientation briefly and rather than playing it cool and hitting self level before landing flat ish I just throttled off and let it hit the grass. Insert cartwheeling quad here...
KK2 pins took a battering, but I've straightened them out and tested - still seems fine. All motors spin up and seem no worse than they were before (one of the motors is a bit rattly)
Definitely need to put some protection over the KK2, don't really want to smash that up
Soldato
PinkFloyd,
How about something like this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KK2-0-Mul...sGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3cd67d2cc0
How about something like this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KK2-0-Mul...sGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3cd67d2cc0
Soldato
That'd do the trick for sure. I was thinking of just putting a clear bit of perspex over the top on standoffs. I'll look at a few options I think, but considering I'm nearly out of spare arms for this frame I don't want to spend much.
I want to build my own frame next time around, and I'll have some protection built in.
I want to build my own frame next time around, and I'll have some protection built in.
Soldato
Why not just put the KK2.0 inside? It took a bit of measuring, drilling and filing but it's much better in there and very well protected, I opened out where the buttons are a bit more as I have huge fingers and all the plugs are slightly proud just because I couldn't be bothered shortening the stand-offs and re-tapping them, plus they are all easily accessible the way they are now.
You also busted the exact same arm I did on Friday
Soldato
That was something I was considering when I initially built it. I've just got used to having the battery inside now, along with all the cabling. Definitely an option though, I'll ponder!
Soldato
After reading the PDF it does seem like they have it covered (unfortunately). Trappy is one of the least pleasant people that I have had the misfortune to encounter on the internet, we engaged in a discussion about his antics around the houses of parliament in London and I highlighted that he was either an idiot or a liar when he stated in a Wired interview that he didn't know that it was parliament buildings that he was flying over. He replied on a public forum that he was well aware of where he was and that I'd have to be a moron to think otherwise. Oddly following that every single one of the copies of that video 'disappeared' and he subsequently deleted the conversation and banned me from commenting on his YouTube videos. All I can say is that he's a devious young fella that is in the hobby for two reasons, money and notoriety. Unfortunately consideration for others in the hobby is non existent and the risks they take are potentially ones that will impact those in the countries that he's visited. Frankly I suspect that the only reason he's fighting this in the states is because it's a win win situation for him. Think of the publicity he's getting win or lose...
Soldato
Just stumbled across this thread after getting sent my Canon newsletter featuring teh top end of this - the video is amazing...
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content...filming_with_the_eos_7d_and_eos_5d_mark_ii.do
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content...filming_with_the_eos_7d_and_eos_5d_mark_ii.do
Don
Some shots from yesterday:
All shot with a GoPro Hero 3 Black mounted to a DJI F550.
Flying out of my garden is hard. I have a postage stamp sized grass area surrounded by trees. Landing is pretty stressful.
All shot with a GoPro Hero 3 Black mounted to a DJI F550.
Flying out of my garden is hard. I have a postage stamp sized grass area surrounded by trees. Landing is pretty stressful.
Soldato
I know not exactly multicopter but it was shot using a hexcopter, you normally wouldnt ever get to see it this close.
Don
Looks like a DJI S800 from what I can see of the arms and motor mounts.
Just a quick question for you guys; is hobbyking generally the best place to get bits from? I have zero rc experience but I like the idea of building a tri from scratch. I've been reading around online but most forums/sites are US based so I just want to check with people actually in the UK.
Cheers
Cheers
Soldato
IF they actually manage to have everything you want in stock and in the Same Warehouse then yes (Even though their P&P costs are pretty high). If not I'd start looking on eBay and even Amazon, also be aware that HobbyKing CS is apparently really, really bad if you have a problem with anything. And their website is a total PITA!
To add to that right now it's particularly bad, they have problems and backlogs in their far eastern warehouse because they were suddenly told they can't ship LiPo batteries from there and that has caused things to worsen.
As long as you don't have any problems with your order, it isn't a Chinese holiday or there's a problem like they're having right now you should be ok. Always best to order from their UK warehouse if possible but it does have a limited range of items and stock levels.
Soldato
If you can find most of the stuff on the Hobbyking UK site you should be ok, delivery is reasonable (ie normal courier style price). I've seen a few people say the actual CS within the UK isn't too bad, it only really gets bad if you have to deal with the Asia offices. At the end of the day you get what you pay for though, lots of stuff is a lot cheaper than elsewhere but you accept the negatives with it.
Ebay seems pretty solid for buying parts though, bought cable and other accessories from there - imagine I might buy actual hardware there too next time around.
Got my next frame planned. PVC piping like is the crazy on RCGroups right now. Going to go with a H-quad and run as much of the cabling through the pipes to keep it tidy. Aim is to have everything covered up within reason for protection.
Ebay seems pretty solid for buying parts though, bought cable and other accessories from there - imagine I might buy actual hardware there too next time around.
Got my next frame planned. PVC piping like is the crazy on RCGroups right now. Going to go with a H-quad and run as much of the cabling through the pipes to keep it tidy. Aim is to have everything covered up within reason for protection.