my clio engine

To be honest though, if it was covered in racing livery, he wouldn't be getting half the stick he's getting though would he?

Are you guys actually aware of the Maxi Clio at all? Just in case you're not, here's a pic of one:



^ Click me

Now OK - it's a slightly different colour, different spoiler and it's got subtle skirts, but like I say - if it were covered in stickers would he be getting stick? Doubt it. :)
 
[TW]Fox said:
Oh I can't possibly think why. I doubt it's got anything to do with me being the only person in this thread who both happens to own a BMW and think snot coloured Clios look silly.
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To tell you the truth you didn't cross my mind, the general feeling I get when I look on a post with a modded cars and the slating that happens I see BMW sigs, yes it's very stereotypical of me. Plus the fact I was referring to when I posted my car up, not this thread.. Maybe it's because I used 'BMW boy' ? I'm not sure :p

Back on topic then.

following on from lowe - one in action, quite cool.
 
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Heheh, proper ones don't need a turbo to get 300bhp either. Not bad going for a 2.0l 1990's engine. :)
 
Lowe said:
To be honest though, if it was covered in racing livery, he wouldn't be getting half the stick he's getting though would he?

Are you guys actually aware of the Maxi Clio at all?
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Yes but the OP clearly isn't becuase it looks nothing like a Maxi Clio. A Maxi Clio doesn't have that ridiculous rear spoiler, it doesn't have the strange lower splitter, the bumper looks different, the skirts are different, the bonnet is different infact the only thing they have in common is:

a) Its a Clio
b) Its wide.

He's getting stick becuase it's an eyesore. If it looked like a Maxi Clio he'd be getting no stick at all. It looks nothing like one and the colour really doesnt help. It's like one of those ridiculously chav'd up Renault 5's that were all the rage until they all turned to iron oxide.
 
L0rdMike said:
If you lot cant handle the abuse stick to biased club forums.
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You could post a picture of a pink 5 Series with steel wheels and a HUGE touring car wing and no other mods and everyone on the BM forum would congratulate you for a nice car :/
 
[TW]Fox said:
You could post a picture of a pink 5 Series with steel wheels and a HUGE touring car wing and no other mods and everyone on the BM forum would congratulate you for a nice car :/
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No strictly true for the clio forums:

Clio Sport:

Has to be standard or it's rubbish
A mirror polished 172/182 is mint no matter what
Will not get their hands dirty
Laugh at the idea of an MK1 being faster round a track
Post before and after pics of the product 'wheel black'

Clio 16v forum:

Appreciate time, effort and hardwork
Like to get hands dirty
A 172/182 is known as 17poo/18poo
Don't mind cars that have been modified

Stereotyping a lot and tarring people with the same brush but you get the picture.
 
Very nice engine - however, I doubt it would pass 250 BHP. Would be interested what it does though.

Shame about the car, a standard Williams would be my choice :)
 
Just a quick hi to Maxiboy, from what i've seen on the williams board a decent guy. What I like is its a excellent project, shame some of you guys can't see past the stigma.

Keep up the good work... oh and make it RWD :D

Matthew
 
[TW]Fox said:
Yes but the OP clearly isn't becuase it looks nothing like a Maxi Clio. A Maxi Clio doesn't have that ridiculous rear spoiler, it doesn't have the strange lower splitter, the bumper looks different, the skirts are different, the bonnet is different infact the only thing they have in common is:

a) Its a Clio
b) Its wide.

He's getting stick becuase it's an eyesore. If it looked like a Maxi Clio he'd be getting no stick at all. It looks nothing like one and the colour really doesnt help.
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im with fox on this one. The bodykit looks nothing like the one on the maxi that lowe posted. The Rear spoiler is much bigger,the sideskirts are completely different etc..

the maxi clio looks allright, but the green one isnt the best looking. And the horrible shut lines and dodgy colour dont help it either ..
 
AmDaMan said:
Clio 16v forum:

Appreciate time, effort and hardwork
Like to get hands dirty
A 172/182 is known as 17poo/18poo
Don't mind cars that have been modified
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Sounds like the typical thing you'd expect from a forum with people aged between 17-19 who are a bit miffed they can't afford a 182.

Seriously, calling yourself a Clio fan then calling the 182 the '18poo' when its the best thing thats happened to Renault for years? They are staggeringly good cars and thats high praise indeed given i hate small cars, i dont like French small cars and i dont like hot hatches.
 
hi. do i still need the hovis photos now then. i agree it doesn,t look at all the same but it is a maxi kit. i have realised the front splitter was a mistake and removed it. also removed the vent as i have fitted a carbon bonnet. i like the skirt and rear spoiler still. the shut lines have been sorted with a bit of adjustment. those photos are from its return from the body shop over two years ago.

bb tuning have run 320bhp with out cams headwork relocated filters 8000rpm rev limit. but i will be happy with what see makes. if i,m not i will upgrade to a t3 as the engines good for it. cheers for all the comments good or bad.

cheers neil
 
as i said cams and headwork wont add to the power if the turbo cant supply the air a t28 wont push enough CFM of air for much over 300bhp (this is probably the limiting factor on bb's 320bhp as its about the max limit a t28 can push) yu will have to check compressor flow charts to confirm but i cant see it pushing much more.

turbos are a wierd science in the sense that people always seem to go on psi yet its actually cfm which counts.a t34 at 10 psi could be supplying the engine with as much air as a t25 at 25 psi yes the pressure isnt in the system but what counts is when the inlet valve is open how much air is being pushed into the combustion chamber not what the pressure in the inlet manifold is :P


and also depends on what cams you have got you could've caused yourself more problems and make the engine worse, high lift long duration cams are bad for turbos as the valve overlap will just throw the boost out the exhaust.

relocated filters wont really make any difference at all to power so no point listing it! and rev limit being 8000rpm will only be any good if the turbo can keep torque up to that rpm otherwise soon as torque falls your peak power falls and it makes your high rev limit pointless.

engine build is nice i agree but in all honesty you do need a bigger turbo if thats the figure you want, a t34 would be ideal for your application although this will require a new turbo flang on your manifold and new oil lines etc ans t3's are quite a bit different in this area.

i have a friend local to me who has a clio and had a 1.7 volvo turbo lump in it he has ripped that out and is currently building a bb tuning engine himself (f7r lump) aswell and i much prefer the looks of his sorry :)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/turbod_clio/passside.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/turbod_clio/DSCF0305.jpg
 
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[TW]Fox said:
Sounds like the typical thing you'd expect from a forum with people aged between 17-19 who are a bit miffed they can't afford a 182.

Seriously, calling yourself a Clio fan then calling the 182 the '18poo' when its the best thing thats happened to Renault for years? They are staggeringly good cars and thats high praise indeed given i hate small cars, i dont like French small cars and i dont like hot hatches.
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Few things:

I like the 172/182

A few of the the 16v members have them

If you can get insured on a 16v you probably can on a 172/82, the 16v is group 12 so where does that comment come from? The ph1's are very cheap now.

The 172 is no quicker than a Williams, it doesn't handle better and is usually more expensive. It's just been 'modernised' with comfort and looks, don't get me wrong, i like them, i'm just telling you why some people say that and stand by it's successor.
 
AmDaMan said:
If you can get insured on a 16v you probably can on a 172/82, the 16v is group 12 so where does that comment come from?
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The fact a Clio 16v costs in the hundreds of pounds whereas a good 182 is thousands?

The 172 is no quicker than a Williams, it doesn't handle better and is usually more expensive.
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Of course its more expensive, its newer. And less likely to fall to bits as a result.
 
and also depends on what cams you have got you could've caused yourself more problems and make the engine worse, high lift long duration cams are bad for turbos as the valve overlap will just throw the boost out the exhaust.

if have a set of custom made high lift short duration cams.

relocated filters wont really make any difference at all to power so no point listing it

so a filter thats sat behind the radiator drawing warm air will produced the same power as one drawing cool air
 
MAXIBOY said:
so a filter thats sat behind the radiator drawing warm air will produced the same power as one drawing cool air
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yep pretty much once it hits your compressor thats boosting intake temps to 60 deg before charge cooler
CAI have no where near as much influence on turbo cars as n/a due to your main source of air temp iss the turbo not the intake.

also i wouldnt of used a charge cooler FMIC's are far more efficiant and much better at cooling air, charge coolers are awesome for short stages where you can load them up with ice but the fact you have 2x heat transfers going on makes them much less effeciant than a decent fmic setup.
 
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Why do you automatically compare a shed of a 16v to a 182? Why wasn't it a Williams? Yes you are trying to exaggerate a poor point again.

What about a good Williams at 4k compared to a heap of a 172 for 2k?

It's newer so it's more expensive.. of course!!111
 
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