My first relationship thread, consisting of multiple OCUKers.

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So this is kind of a relationship thread really but it starts a long way before that and I really want to get it all off of my chest, and I feel that perhaps doing this on a fairly anonymous forum is the best way. People I know read this but its only people who already know my situation, so it’s not going to be any shock to them what I say, and they have already given me as much advice as can be said! Bare with it, its long but I am sure it has some interesting parts, that some how everyone can relate to, and some things that people I talk to on here would be interested to know about. I would appreciate people reading about this as it is rather interesting and I would like some type of feedback ultimately to all of this.

I may as well start right at the beginning where this all really starts. November 2001 I was just a normal teenager, at the age of 16, I had the world ahead of me. I had just started a college course that I was doing amazing at, infact was straight from my lecturer’s mouth, the most promising student they had ever had. I have just had the most amazing summer of my life, in between school and college when the world is just starting to really open up for you. I had a great social life and some amazing friends! I had a job I loved doing, and I loved every aspect of my life. I was working as a maths tutor for a boy who was getting ready to do his entry exams to secondary school. I had improved his mathematics skills exponentially! I was also getting on with my family amazingly well and having an all round great time. My social life was booming and well let’s put it this way everything to me was idealistic! November 3rd 2001, I went to my friends’ fireworks party, they live about 4-5 miles away from where I was living at the time and I went with my friend Matt (Matteh on the forums). I had the most amazing time catching up with the friends I hadn’t seen for a while who I had last seen on our exam results day! We saw the world’s crappiest fire works but we didn’t care because life was good, everyone was happy and everyone was having a good time! I would love to say I have some great memories of that night, but you will understand why, when I say I don’t remember much after the fireworks, in a bit.

November 5th 2001, the actual evening of fireworks night, I actually had college that day, and during my programming class started to experience a bit of a headache. Nothing out of the unusual, just a bit of a migraine. I decided not to hang around long after college as I normally do talking to my friends, and cycled home. When I got home I told my mother I was going to do some coursework and go to bed. That is my last memory for the next two weeks, the rest I will have to fill in from peoples testaments. 7th November 2001 I wake up feeling better with no headache a bit disorientated, I look at the time it is 12.30 in the afternoon, it’s a Wednesday and I normally start college at 9am! Damn! How could I have let myself sleep through my first lecture, I love Wednesdays, start with double programming (may sound boring, but I loved my college classes). I throw some clothes on and go downstairs to question my Mum wondering if it is ACTUALLY Wednesday (I am so confused about everything, I cant even remember why I would have slept in, or not set my alarm, I cant remember even setting my alarm, I am not even entirely sure if it is Wednesday). I question the day, she replies its Wednesday, I ask why I am not in college and she tells me because I am Ill… Well fair enough I do feel a bit disorientated and dizzy. I walk out the room because I am so tired and decide to go back to bed since I can. I reach the stairs and my first foot hits it. Confused, I turn around and walk back into the front room where my mother is, my brother is there as well. ‘What day is it? Why aren’t I in college?’. My brother and mother both laughed at me, confused I just asked the questions again. They told me the same answers. This little pattern of reaching the stairs returning confused and asking the same questions repeated, until eventually I just went up to bed, upset, dazed and confused. Things got worse from there on, I would only be awake for about an hour a day, and would hardly make it out of bed, only for a toilet break or something to eat. I saw several doctors, none of whom knew what was going on. They all questioned whether I was on any drugs or anything, which I wasn’t, and my mother had to assure everyone I was not. I have always had a close relationship with my mother so she pretty much knew everything I did anyway. But obviously at my age it was hard for any doctor to believe that my mum knew everything about me. My Mum fought and struggled to get me the medical attention I needed as slowly each day I got worse, my memory lasting literally seconds, not being able to follow conversations. No-one took my condition seriously, the only possible illness I could have had would have killed me by now. The doctors refused to check for it anyway. Eventually after endless hours of complaining my mum managed to get me an appointment for an M.R.I. scan. The date is now the 20th November. A few of my closest friends come round to see me because they all know that after my appointment in the hospital I may not be coming home for a while. They all made me a get well soon package which I still have now. None of them had any money as they were 15 and didn’t really have any jobs so they all scraped together and made this package with things full of sentiment. For that time in my life and my age, it was, and still is, one of the most touching things. I don’t know how long they were there for, what we talked about, or if it even happened. I just have the package still and that is my only evidence of that evening happening. The next day I was taken into hospital and had my MRI scan. I don’t remember any of the waiting or anything but I have a vague recollection of being in this huge long noisy tube and having to keep perfectly still. My memories are then blank until I was walking out of the hospital with one of my family members to go home. Obviously had just been sent home, when a nurse came out in a very flustered state and asked me to come back in. I was immediately put in a ward and admitted. Because of my age and my condition I was stuck in a geriatrics ward, and I was in tears and scared for my life, I had no idea what was happening, I had no idea where I was. I saw an elderly man trying to escape the clutches of some heavy-set nurses, the whole time screaming for help. I broke down into tears and had no idea what to do with myself. I had been neglected for 15 days already with no idea what was happening. My life had already crumbled into pieces, this I was not aware of… I still thought it was November 5th, all the calendars and anyway of me finding out what the date was had been hidden. I had been in a state of disillusion, cut off from everything, stuck in my own world slightly disorientated but completely unaware of my own condition. I just assumed I was off college because I had headaches. It wasn’t unusual for me when I was tired to get migraines. I just assumed everything was fine. And now here I am in my own right mind I am not ill, ignorant to my own near-death situation, witnessing a horrific display of nursing. My Dad who was with me at the time saw my distress and immediately talked to whoever he could find in authority to get me moved into my own room. I was moved to an out of the way unit and carted in, in a wheel chair into a square room with one window and a bed. I was then put on a drip and the first of my thirty sets of treatment started. I spent my first night alone in the hospital with a drip on my arm and not being able to bend it. I was still so unaware of my situation or what was happening. My Dad stayed with me until he thought I was asleep, the truth is I was really nowhere near asleep when he left. He placed a letter on my bedside as he went out. It explained what was happening to me and what was going on with me. Most importantly it reassured me I was going to be alright. I had contracted what is called HSV Encephalitis, no-one really knows how you get it, but all that is known is how it can affect someone. Normally with in 48 hours if you are not diagnosed and treated you can say goodbye to your family. Something or someone was looking out for me I believe as I should really not be alive right now! I spent the next few days in Epsom General Hospital where there was **** up after **** up, and the negligence towards me was inadvertently continued. I was due to have a lumber puncture, which is the extraction of spinal fluid for testing. They decided that they would get a trainee nurse to perform this procedure on a boy who had no idea what was happening. The trainee nurse tried to anesthetise me but when I jolted in pain dropped the needle and from then on could not anesthetise me because the needle was now unsanitary. She then continued to perform this test on me with no anaesthetic, which basically involves putting a needle in between the bones in your spine and extracting fluid directly from the spinal chord. The result is a small amount of fluid which then can be used to determine very specifically what is wrong with someone. It is near impossible to quite describe the pain involved in someone probing a part of your body which deals in sending messages to the brain, especially with no anaesthetic. I guess the only way to possible describe it would be to explain all that was happening inside my body, I had a foreign object invading my spinal chord, and my body in an instinctive way to protect itself was sending messages straight to my brain. The message being sent was just PAIN. Nothing will come close to the pain I felt then, not even the headache I got when I first got ill. That itself is hard to explain. My brain swelled when I got encephalitis, it swelled to a point where its habitat was to small for it. In short my brain became too big for my head. That was pretty painful, I am glad my memories of the pain are so blurred now.

The shocking treatment in this hospital carried on until I was eventually transferred to a specialist brain injury hospital known as Atkinson Morley in Wimbledon. My treatment from there on improved and I was in a hospital with people who understood my condition. I was told once I got out of hospital the prognosis seemed as if I would be fit to go back to college in a few months. This prognosis proved to be very inaccurate. When my treatment was finished in the hospital I was free to go home. Life from here on was completely different. I was trapped in a world where I had no freedom and had to be permanently supervised in case I turned on the gas to cook something and forgot I turned it on, or ran a bath and forgot I was running it. If you remember my original description of my life in comparison to now you can then only begin to imagine how I felt. Christmas day was difficult to deal with, the confusion and the hustle and bustle of everything, everyone asking how I was; I could barely deal with any of it. I would start conversations with someone, and then two sentences into it not remember a word I had said. My memory was comparable to a goldfish. I would be given a list of five items and not remember the first three by the end of it. My memory simply was beyond anything you could understand unless you yourself have had to deal with it. Eventually my 17th birthday came around, I didn’t do much for that, other than spent a lot of it in my room crying depressed about what was happening to me. A week earlier in frustration of everything that was happening in my life I decided to try and run away from everything. I grabbed a couple of bits and jumped out of my window. As soon as my parents realised they called the police out. My whole situation wasn’t helping my home situation at all. My parents were on the edge of a divorce, it hadn’t been said yet but it was on the cards. My mum always short tempered due to worry from me, and my step dad having to work extra hours to now have to pay for my living expenses, which increased due to me being home all the time and eating more (a side effect of my illness). I was eventually picked up by either the police or my Dad at about 4 or 5 in the morning. I was then taken to a psychiatrist the next day who said there was not much they expect to be able to do for me. My depression was not due to any chemical imbalance and that anti-depressants should not be prescribed to a 17 year old who was suffering with such an illness as my self. They did however despite this, saw the way I was feeling, and saw the cuts all over my hands and arms from stupid attempts at cries of attention and thoughts of suicide; decide that anti-depressants may help in the short term. They also prescribed sleeping pills to make sure that I kept to a normal sleeping pattern. I had pretty much turned nocturnal, having spent all night on the internet in chat rooms trying to find someone who I could turn to, to help with how I felt. Suddenly things weren’t ‘as bad’ my sleeping pattern was sorted and I felt better. But my true feelings were hard to explain, I was happy in such a false sense, I talked about things in a different way, and my personality changed. The anti-depressants were not making me feel better just giving me a false sense of happiness. My depression went up and down, and one day I just stopped taking them with out telling anyone. I went down hill very quickly and was quickly sent to the psychiatrist again, and my psychologist sessions turned quickly into sessions of psychiatry as well. Everyone knows what an emo kid is, that was pretty much me, but I felt like I had a reason.

My prognosis turned from promising to not promising very quickly. I was due to go into rehabilitation to get me to change the way I lived and to deal with my illness. I didn’t want to change, I just wanted my memory back. I was told I would need to change my life style to be able to get back on track. I was 17, I did not want my freedom taken away by always carrying round a notebook and a diary. I didn’t want alarms continuously going off telling me what I was supposed to be doing, I just wanted to leave a completely normal life. Where everything is decided at the time, and there is no need to plan everything a week ahead. I didn’t want to schedule everything so I knew what I was doing at what hour exactly. I didn’t want have to get up at exactly the same time everyday, eat at the same time, read at the same time, watch TV at the same. I wanted to be going out with my friends, trying to get into a pub even though I shouldn’t be there, going to college and expanding my knowledge. My first visit to the potential neuro-rehabilitation centres involved me walking around a building full of people in wheelchairs with brain diseases that left them seriously handicapped, mentally and physically. Physically I was fine, a little fatter from my increased appetite but other than that I just needed help remembering things. After 3 or 4 months of avoiding the fact that this was my only way to get better I eventually bit the bullet and was admitted to a week of testing to see what was the best rehab for me, at the end of it I got the answer. Unfortunately this was another shocking blow for me. I had been hoping to restart college in September. The rehabilitation they had to offer me was a minimum 12 week course starting at the end of July, and would run through until the end of November. The only thing that had kept me going through all of this was the hope I would be able to return to college and be normal again. I spent the next week or so to myself in tears and it was something yet again no one would ever understand. I had lived through a very deadly illness, something most people would be happy about. However everything that made me happy was taken away.

Going back a bit, that January the Lord of the Rings films were released, I saw the first one seven times in total, and each time was like watching it new. I couldn’t follow the story line on the screen and had to rely on the fact I had read it long ago when I was younger to follow it all. These films became a bit of a big thing for me, with each year they were released I could almost measure my progress with how much I remember by the end of it. The second film was due out at the end of my bout of rehabilitation. I had the choice of doing the rehab or hoping for the best and returning to college. I decide I was going to take all the help I could get and then prove everyone what I was made of. All of these doctors were saying my case was so unique and no-one had ever seen someone survive with encephalitis for over a week let alone the 15 days I was experiencing it. It was time to make a point, I needed to take control of my own life. I started the rehab and quickly made some amazing friends, to who this day I regret I don’t keep in touch with, after rehab finished I kept in touch with them for a while, but for all of us, we were moving to a new stage in our life and wanted to leave our old life behind us. During my rehab I met some amazing people and was touched greatly by everyone I met. These people who I once viewed as retards I learnt to appreciate, they are truly amazing people and still to this day I believe more capable of achieving than anyone else I have ever met. My luck was turning and so was my attitude, it was more of **** you attitude, my turn to take back my life. I won a holiday through our local rotary group (generally a bunch of rich business men who want to give something back to the community). I was to go sailing on a tall ship for a week around the Algarve on one of the only ships in the world designed to be manned by a disabled crew. The Jubilee Sailing Trust ship the Lord Nelson was my home for one week, and was a life changing experience. That again proved to me that the word disability is misleading, because someone is disabled in one area does not make them retarded with everything, it only strengthens the person they are in other areas.

September that year came round very quickly, and soon I realised that I would not be fit for college that year. I had another down period full of tears and I decided to take some anti-depressants again, which I never really told anyone about. I did get some positive news that October though. The college I was going to decided they wanted to start the course I was originally on every term, so one course would start September, then January, then April. This was an amazing opportunity for me and suddenly the last few weeks of my rehab was heavily focussed on me returning to college in January. I was so unprepared for how much of a struggle it was going to be. My college were great and bought me a laptop and Dictaphone.

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I finished my rehab and started college shortly before my 18th birthday. Life was changing for me, I had started becoming more social as soon as I started back at college. I was slightly ahead of everyone in my classes to start with having already had the benefit of 6 weeks previous experience with the course, and the fact that, with out blowing my own whistle, I am pretty intelligent and things like programming come easy to me. After the first term I was keeping up but it was tiring me out more than I could ever imagine, I was getting very tired, from college and my social life. The next term everyone was progressing so well that all the tutors got together and decided to try to push my class through to finish the three term first year into the two terms we had. Now my course I chose was purely coursework based, and the first year consists of 21 pieces of coursework mostly essay based. The pressure got to me with all this work, my sleep pattern got very messed up very quickly and my attendance took a sharp drop. I was beginning to lose everything I had worked so hard for. When the end of the term came around I still had plenty of out-standing coursework which the teachers said didn’t matter, and that it just needed to be completed by the end of summer, since we had all the learning materials we needed. Unfortunately for me all the materials I had been given were not staying in my memory, and although I had an amazing amount of notes, some of it did not make sense. I need things to be laid out for me and to make sense for me to accept any of it, when I say this is if I don’t see the reason behind something I will never accept it. In mathematics it was no use in telling me something, you really had to explain to my why something worked. I always needed the reasoning behind everything. In my classes at college because I was so busy making notes I never got time to ask questions. So as much as I believed I was coping, I really was not. The summer holidays was a breath of fresh air as I knew that I had Reading coming up. I was excited and could not wait. My social life increased lots that year as I went to the pub with my mates, up to Camden and even went clubbing a few times. When Reading came, I had the most amazing experience of my life. I was camping with all my friends and a few random people, there were some girls I was camping with, and one of them had a boyfriend. I didn’t really talk to them much on the Thursday night as I was so excited about everything happening around me. I was relaxed again and my life was going well. I had an amazing love for music (pretty much the only thing I ever can trust and always turn to when I am feeling down), music had been my life since I was pretty much 4 years old! On Friday my favourite band at the time were going to be playing, Blink 182. When they came on I ran into the crowd with my friend Mikey and well, did what Blink 182 fans quite often do, I got naked. The show was immense and I was on such an adrenaline rush, I came back to the campsite still not wearing much excited about the evenings events. That evening I got talking to one of the most intensely amazing people I have ever met. Little did I know this person was going to play such a big part in my eventual rehabilitation of my illness. I don’t believe she even realises how much she helped me change my life. This person is someone known on these forums as Holly35. She however at the time had a boyfriend. Our connection was instant and there was this amazing electricity between us. I spent the weekend pretending to be gay in the hope that her boyfriend would not get jealous and to be able to spend extra time with her. Suddenly my memory was not a problem, I could remember every time she smiled at me, or every time we held hands, and every band we saw together. We got drunk together on the Saturday and spent most of the day with each other sharing experiences and always talking. I couldn’t get enough of her. When the weekend ended I had to leave her and wanted so much to tell her then the attraction I had for her. I didn’t know what kind of attraction she shared, she was in a relationship. When I got back from Reading I had to quickly face the harsh reality of my college life again. It was time for me to start college again. The problem was that I had done none of the coursework been asked of me, partially because I couldn’t and then partially because I had no motivation. I started a different course that year. I also started my relationship with Holly. Up until this point I have failed to mention that I at that point was a virgin and had strong Christian beliefs, hence why I was the way I had never been physically intimate with anyone. My first time visiting Holly after Reading happened on a not particularly nice day but it was cool, I went down to Brighton to visit her and then went back to her house in Burgess Hill. We were both a bit smitten I think. In the evening when it came to getting home I called up my friend Matt to try and get some train times off of him. He informed me that I may have difficulty getting home because there was a power cut in London. Holly quite quickly offered me the spare room for me to stay round hers. I just as quickly accepted, no longer caring about whether I could get home or not. We stayed up late talking and laughing, and at some point we shared our first kiss. My heart beat so fast and I knew at that point I had found the person I would ideally like to spend the rest of my life with. The next morning Holly went to work and I spent the morning in her house alone. When she came home we spent the rest of the day with each other kissing and enjoying each others company. It seemed like the perfect relationship and for so long it was. The most amazing thing was that at last I was falling into a normal life, a normal life for an 18 year old to be living. Our connection grew stronger in leaps and bounds and I was ready to commit to Holly forever, not in terms of marriage but I was ready to give my soul and body to this girl. On New Years Eve of 2003/2004 we went to a house party and had an amazing time, minus a few hiccups from a few of my friends being a bit silly. There was some confusion with one of my friends about the fact that I was almost 19 and going out with someone who had only just turned 16, it was not an issue to me in the slightest. When we got home the following day we decided to go to bed, we had been sharing a bed for a while now. We then for the first time shared each other intimately and everything I dreamed of was happening, I was in love with someone so amazing. We were intimate with each other and it felt just right and perfect. In the beginning of our relationship there was a worry we were expressing ourselves too physically, but we realised when everything happened so naturally on New Years day it was just our expression of love. The next year went well, for me, with in my relationship, but my college attendance was going down. I was so in love I couldn’t get enough of Holly and ended up seeing her so often that eventually I shot myself in the foot and managed to cheat myself out of achieving what I set out to do 3 years previously.

I failed college that year.

That summer came around and I decided I wanted to get a summer job, so I started working in JD Wetherspoons in Epsom and now pretty much everything that I was told I couldn’t do I had. Well to a degree, I was pretty much told I wouldn’t be able to get a job, go to college, or ever really socialise normally again. This was my first real job for a company. And when I first started I really struggled to pick it up. My first shift was on a Friday night and I found it amazingly difficult to learn everything I needed to do, and I got very tired from it. Around this same time my family situation was not getting any easier, my Mum and Step dad had been going through a messy divorce and were now living separately. Holly had gone on a holiday around my first shift at work and things were just generally not easy for me. With the added stress in my life, and frustration with everything the odd argument with Holly popped up. I was now having to deal with refusing under aged people to drink and indeed actually got very frustrated with the amount of 17 year olds wanting to drink in a bar. At the same time Holly was starting to go out to pubs with her friends, which well I didn’t agree with obviously, just because of the position I was in. When she did go out I wasn’t to supportive of it. So it ended up with her going out and not telling me, which upset me, because she was going out and then lieing to me. I would then find out through her and my friends what she was really doing on the Friday nights etc that I was working. Our relationship became a bit rocky from all of this. The more I worked and the more my family situation got rocky the harder it was to manage my whole life. Something I was able to handle previously was something I found extremely difficult. My increased tiredness didn’t help also, the fact that my brain was unable to cope with the added of stress of just having to work twice as hard to achieve anything, I got into another negative pattern. I became fairly short tempered at points, and unfortunately sometimes Holly would be the one who stepped on my final nerve. I hurt her with my mood swings, and she hurt me in the type of way that someone you love so much can hurt. However for everything bad we went through I made an effort to make sure we had an amazing time together to. With the extra money I was earning I spoiled Holly when I could, then I got a credit card… My extra money didn’t last to long. However long enough for me to have bought Holly her own computer and some nice nights out. On my 19th Birthday I took us both out for dinner at this lovely Italian, although probably not the most expensive place I tried to really spoil Holly. There were situations still that were difficult with us, we had very different backgrounds. When we first started going out she smoked, and not just cigarettes, something I was pretty against. That has caused friction between us and it made me wary of a few of her friends who I know were still quite into it. Also when she went to Amsterdam she had done some drugs, accidentally, but I struggled to deal with it. At first I had tried to bottle up my negative thoughts about certain situations but then with the added pressure of all my life I couldn’t. That’s when arguments got quite bad, and included me doing some pretty bad things. We had an argument in London once, we had been out drinking and something had happened to cause an argument and I basically ended up going back to Waterloo station with out her. Looking back now it was a horrible thing to do, but emotions are difficult to control sometimes. However with a brain injury like mine, it is actually impossible to control emotions. Mood swings is pretty much a given with my type of illness. The list of actual side effects is ridiculous infact. If you are really interested read the following links:

http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/WhatisEncephalitis.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/PossibleOutcomes.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/MemoryProblems.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/EmotionalChanges.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/Depression.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/AttentionConcentration.html
http://www.encephalitis.info/TheIllness/PossibleOutcomes/Motivation.html

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From my 20th birthday onwards things got pretty bad in my family life and I was really struggling to deal with it all, but keeping a brave face, few knew really how depressed I was getting again. I was infact back to the stage was at when I was on anti-depressants. This time though I still had this amazingly supportive girlfriend. I put her through a lot, and she put me through her share through. We loved each other so much and that was all that mattered.

One of the reasons I first started my job at Wetherspoons was because I decided I wanted to travel. I however didn’t want to travel to see the world, to me it was a means of escape, and I desperately needed to get away from everything. My happiness was coming in small doses, nights out at the pub with my friends. Romantic nights spent together with Holly. Concerts. In general though I was very depressed but didn’t let on nearly as much as anyone will ever understand.

Moving the story on quite quickly now, I eventually got the opportunity to live my dream of going travelling when my Dad offered to get me a ticket to Australia for December 2005, I quickly accepted and I could see the light at the end of my tunnel. I don’t know why but for some reason I just assumed as soon as I got to England everything would be okay. I continuously told Holly and all my friends how I couldn’t wait to get away from this life. Little did I know how much I was hurting them by saying this. I was pretty much saying to them that I didn’t like anything in my life including them. That wasn’t the case, I just needed to have some space on my own. An opportunity to push myself, to really see how held back I was with my illness. I wanted to truly see what I was capable of achieving. I could see holly was upset by me leaving, and every time she said she was happy for me I felt she wasn’t. Of course she was, she was just upset I was leaving. She also secretly was scared that me leaving to Oz was the end of our relationship. This upset me, I see the irony in it now.

December 1st 2005 I left to go on my travels and as amazing as it was I was still feeling depressed, but now in a different way. I celebrated my first Christmas, New Years and Birthday in the scorching sun.

This is when everything starts to fall apart for me. Holly was doing well at home and achieving so much, I was feeling so empty in Australia. She went to Prague at the end of January. I had just celebrated my 21st with none of my friends just two weeks before and couldn’t shake this feeling of depression. Holly was out a lot and now going to what I consider one of the most romantic cities in the world. I broke up with her that weekend. I wanted to stop feeling the way I was feeling and quite frankly I thought it was me and her, because every time I talked to her it hurt. It was because I was missing her so intensely, if only I could look back and see that now. I told her that this was not just a break but a break-up. I told her to get over me and that was it between us. I made that weekend the biggest mistake of my life that I can see. The words I said cut her deep, and me to. To an extent she will never understand, I had to cut away what I thought was making me feel the way I did. Unfortunately I soon discovered Holly wasn’t the reason why I was feeling the way I did, sure I was missing her, but it was myself and my family that was the real cause of my depression. Valentines Day came around and I hadn’t heard from Holly in a few days and I send her some lyrics to a song that I felt was really appropriate for us. If I had known what had occurred only the day before I think now I would not have bothered.

These are some of the lyrics taken from Matchbook Romance – If all else fails

And if all else fails you can look up at the sky
Because it's the same one that shines above you and I.
And if all else fails you can close your eyes
And I'll be right beside you.
I'll be the one by your side.

So close your eyes and sleep to dream.
I'm by your side.
No words to speak.
We'll set our course and make it through.
No matter how far I go
No matter how much this hurts
I wanted you to know,
My heart remains with you.

The next few months in Australia I spent realising my mistake and trying to patch things up with Holly but she seemed fairly uninterested. She suddenly had gone very cold and turned off all her feelings and emotions she had for me. I was so upset it was like the past few years we had shared together were now pointless and meaningless. All feelings had gone. I discovered the reasoning for this not long ago. On Feb 13th, thirteen days after us breaking up. Three days since we had both told each other we still loved each other last. Infact pretty much three days since we had last been in contact she had been with a friend and things had happened. She had decided not to tell me this, and had been leading me on with the thoughts of a relationship by saying she didn’t want to think of a relationship while I was in Australia. She has also been on dates with other some people and was seeing someone else, which she told me all at the same time that she told me she had been with other people. My heart broke, and I honestly felt physical pain shooting through my body. I felt as if I had been stabbed. This amazing person I loved and still do had done something like that to me and not told me about it. I had given her everything, my heart and my body and my soul, something as a Christian I was not wanting to throw away. I had been led on for a couple of months thinking that was a possibility of us savouring a relationship and starting again when I got home. In the past few weeks it has become clear that that is not going to happen. I saw Holly for the first time in 6 ½ months today and it was one of the hardest things to do. I just wanted to kiss her with all my might and tell her how much I loved her. I am to emotionally scarred by her now to try and have a friendship because most conversations end up with me begging questions as to where her feelings went and what I have done that is so bad that we can’t try a relationship again. I do constantly make effort to maintain a friendship her but she doesn’t return the effort. First of all saying she does want to be my friend then fobbing me off with excuse after excuse. Her feelings have gone, I believe that, but she has been keeping me at an arms length, just close enough to make me occasionally believe there is something left between us, but just far enough away to hurt me. She has admitted to not making enough effort, but has done nothing to help this. She broke my heart and won’t let me heal. In the two and third years I had been with Holly I treated her so well and always tried to make her happy. Her laugh was intoxicating and gave me a sense of happiness I can not express. I tried to treat her to little things and big things, I bought her presents, took her to things, gave her lots of little surprises, a million things that she will not deny. I was never really a negligent boyfriend except during our arguments. However I find myself in a situation now where she will not look at any of the positive things I have ever done for her and only looks at the negatives between us. She ignores all our good times and strives to remember only the bad times. This is her way of dealing though, which I can understand. This upsets me greatly and I find it hard to deal with. I am to weak to let go of her, right now, and I cant help but ask questions about us. I said earlier I don’t accept things unless I understand them. I cant help but feel I am missing something massive in this situation. We had an amazing love for each other, yet it seems with in two weeks of our relationship ending she was happy to see other people. She tells me she wasn’t over me then and that was her way of dealing with it. She also tells me that she still cares for me. But does not have any feelings for me. I am continuously confused by everything, and find myself just randomly crying sometimes. I looked into her eyes earlier and realised everything I have lost. She has changed so much since I left her almost 7 months ago, but I still love her unconditionally. I don’t really know how to deal with this, so today I had to meet with her to get my final belongings off of her and cut off direct contact with her until I am strong enough to be able to talk to her again. I realise our relationship is over forever. I just now really hope that she can have someone who sees her how I see her now, and someone who loves her the same way I love her now. I see her as the most amazing person, someone who with out I would never be the person I am now. I see her as the most beautiful and generous person, and the most undervalued person. She doesn’t realise her potential but it is amazing.

Thank you for taking the time to read it all, it may seem like a lot but its all pretty much relevant to explain the downfall of the relationship and my struggle. One of the points I also left out now, was that a few of our arguments stemmed from the fact that Holly was so convinced she understood exactly who I was. However you can not understand the situation I am in with out having dealt with it yourself. Hence why I had so much background information in there. Naturally I have always been a very positive person, which is why I think no-one realises just how depressed I was during a lot of the last five years of my life.

I am now posed with the following questions:

How can I give up hope on loving someone so amazing?
Am I stuck for the rest of my life to be doomed with never having someone understand me and appreciate me for who I really am?
Is there anyway to stop the pain I feel right now?

A few additions that have caused some questions:

Holly was aware of me posting this and was fine with it, I dont think that should be an issue, I dont want to have portrayed her as a bad person as I believe she is one of the most amazing people there is. The point of this post and thread is to see other peoples point of views on my situation with relationships as a whole.

There was a comment about the fact I spoiled her with physical posessions means nothing. I only did the things I did and bought the things I did because I loved seeing the look on her face when she got them, I never believed I could buy our happiness, I didnt need to do that. I just bought them because I knew it would make Holly happier! To see that smile on her face when she saw some of things I got her was so amazing :)
 
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Andelusion said:
Oh lord *puts kettle on*

You are the second person to say that to me! I know its a long thread but all the details are relevant in one way or another, I have tried to make it as neutral and as factual as possible because it directly effects one of the more favoured members of this forum and i didnt want to make her look to bad really. Though some of the events speak for themself. Mainly needed to get it all off my chest, problem shared is a problem halved eh!
 
Thats sound advice wild :) I just struggle with this whole issue of seperating everything because for some reason all my life seems to blend into everything.
 
Gavin said:
Right ive read the whole lot and dont really know what to say.

Apart from i suffer with mental health issues re depression and such as well and if you wanna add me to msn for a chat or what ever feel free.

Ive also not been able to walk for 3 months due to falling off a roof! OUCH!

What ever you do i hope it turns out ok.

Just tried to add you to msn but i am a bit confused about how to use windows live messenger as opposed to msn messenger :o

add me if you can [email protected]

ZIP:

That is sound advice, everyone who has talked to me on msn thanks :) its helpful, it suprises me the level of maturity now a days in people. Some of the things you said hit the nail right on the head. I am normally the one all my friends turn to for advice, and i think i could not have said anything better. Although the advice is great, i still feel down about things, just given the whole situation really. It will be a while til I am feeling better about everything but you know!

What you said on point number 2:
But to do this you must be able to understand that they can understand you first

One of the wisest things I have heard in a while. Dont know if i can totally agree with it, its hard for me to truley believe someone can understand all ive been through but its put a different view point in my head.
 
vaultingSlinky said:
1. Im guessing holly was your 'first love', you will get over it :) (spoken with my worldly 19 years of experience :p)

2. No your not, the person you finally meet that does understand and appreciate you, they are/will be your true love and you just gotta find em....lets just hope its not a bloke eh?

3. Heavy Drinking? although dont actually do this

Point by point:

1. Holly was not my first love, she was the first girl i ever loved this much. So i mean I guess you could say she was my first love, but I have had other loves.

2. I dont think I could be attracted to a bloke either way with out opening a can of words, from my religion I dont think I would ever be gay because well the bible tells me not to be ;)

3. Just given up drinking because people thought it was getting a bit of a problem with me. When i went out drinking I would get absoloutly wasted, not something i need to do anymore!
 
mosehn said:
id like to know what happened when you first met holly , what happened to the old bf that you told him you was gay.. did she dump him or did he dump her
miss part of the story :)

She broke up with him, she wasnt happy with their relationship anyway. He wasnt the greatest boyfriend and didnt pay much attention from what i understand. She broke up with him directly after Reading. Its something that cant be helped. The old boyfriend believed the story about me being gay... the exact circumstances dont really help... i was dressed in a womans haulter neck top and a thong at the time. That well I did because I was drunk... oh yeah lets not forget the haulter neck top. The picture has been posted here before. Pretty irrellevant, a memory i look back fondly on, just how simple things in life were back there in comparison to now....

The fact I told him I was gay was just so he didnt feel bad about his girlfriend hanging around with me.... I had no intentions back then of me and Holly having a relationship, although I thought she was amazing, I never ever want to be the guy who comes inbetween two people!
 
Bracco that is a lot of stuff to think about in there and I agree with lots of it. Now I know that Holly and I arent meant to be together we are different people but I cant help the fact that I love her the amount I do love her. She to me is an amazing person and everything I have ever felt for her I felt for with reason. You mentioned about the buying things, it wasnt that that was how i was only showing affection. Each thing I did had its sentiment and reason, I bought her a computer so we would be able to talk more, long distance phone calls in comparison to the prices of msn. Treating her all the time I did to make her feel special, because I knew she deserved it. Anything to see her excited and to see that look on her face when I gave her something or did something. When I cooked her meals just the appreciation she had was what made me feel good about it all. Going somewhere romantic doing something romantic, was all those types of things that I loved doing!

Yeah we were both young and people change. I just feel right now although I have accepted Holly and I are different people. I feel protective in the sense that no-one is going to love her the way i love her right now, or see her the way i see her through my eyes.

Pigeon_Killer: Thanks, I do try and appreciate everything I have and do try to be thankful and positive. Sometimes its hard to stay positive. Depression is a side effect everyone with what i have had suffers, and its something that i think will be with me for a while. There are certain things in my brain which are hard to control, and emotions is a big one. I can switch very quickly from happy to sad, then find it hard to switch back. This is probably why depression is so common in people recovering from encephalitis! What your mate has sounds slightly different to what I had. I had HSV encephalitis (Herpes Simplex Viral), there is another strain which I cant remember which is to do with a different illness.
 
Replicant said:
Good read, i remember your thread with the Australian pics, this thread fills in some blanks for me i guess about your life.

Pic request for Holly35 :)

You can see her at the meet galleries, I dont have any I really want to post of her... maybe one day people will get to see all the bedroom pics i have of her lol!
 
I did talk to her about it and she was worried about coming accross 'badly' in it. But otherwise had no objections. Holly is not a bad person, and I did not do this to be selfish, I did this to try and get all my thoughts out and to cope with this all better. I dont want Holly to appear badly I just want to tell it how it is. I have said everything as fairly as I can.

I dont think it was selfish of my to write this thread, Holly of her own accord made herself part of everything I am. I have no-one I can really talk to about this which whom Holly does not know. She is more than welcome to change any information she may think is incorrect.

In response to Bar, he pretty much hit the nail on the head, I just wanted to get everything off my chest.

Anything Holly does disagree with I will change or omit. I dont want to give her a bad name because in the end she is an amazing person and thats not what this thread is focussing on, its focussing on who i am and why my relationship was eventually to not work. It has left me doubting a lot and very uncertain of things, hence the huge amount of detail at the beginning of the post and less as it goes on. I would not be as petty to try and make a personal attack on someone on an internet forum, as I see no point. If I had wanted to try and hurt her there are other ways around it, but I see no point in trying to hurt someone I care so deeply about.

This thread, just getting everything written down like it is, has helped me massively, because it is just getting all of my thoughts organised and put into a form where I can now confront it. I think if you read it you may very well understand that everything in my life is not something I have accepted and sometimes have turned my back on, or just tried to out-do through pushing myself. I am now just trying to get some type of clarity in my life.
 
Matblack said:
Got to say bravo for writing out your feelings and reflecting on your situation but in all honesty the best next step will be to go and see a councellor to discuss it rather than seek advice on a public forum where other people who are intimately involved in the situation are known and where you may recieve inapropriate advice.

Your doctor will be able to refer you to someone who can support you better than we can and impartially at that.

MB

Thanks, not particularly looking for another miracle cure for depression. I am not a depressed person as such, just on one of those down points after coming out of a relationship with someone as such. I wrote it to have it on a forum to get it all out. Also Holly if she decides she wants to read it all she can and well she can even make the story more factual. I have tried to get the timing and events as factual as possible. I re-itterate the point that I didnt do this as any type of revenge.

I dont wanna turn this into a medical thread either, as that is not what this is about. I am just wondering since I have no friends who can relate to this situation really wether there may be anyone out there who has ever had to deal with similar. Already I have had some members talk to me and they have all really helped! You know who you are and thank you :) The internet is the most likely place I am to find someone to understand. I have been told by my pyschiatrist at the time that my 'depression' at the time is to not be helped by drugs as it is just a direct side effect of my illness, adding chemicals to my brain is hardly what to do to an already damaged enough brain.
 
For people who keep questioning, yes Holly was aware of the post I was making and had no objections. I havent made her sound bad in this and if I have that was never the intention as she is not bad in the slightest.

I am 21 now for the record and yes it may seem like one of those first love things, but the thing I am struggling with is to understand wether this relationship ended the way it did due to ultimately my illness. I dont know. I needed to get this all out in the open and this is the first time I have done so, so publically. I have nothing I am ashamed to say anymore and I felt that it would be of benefit for me to get this out publically but in a domain fair for myself, and Holly. I understand Holly has more friends on these forums than myself, this whole thread is not a stab at her, because i dont think i could ever do something like that to such an amazing person. Holly will always be in my heart, we have grown apart now. I am just left rather hurt and wondering when will I be able to find happiness with someone if i am so sure that their understanding of me will never come about. Some people have said some helpful stuff to me that has made me understnad the possibilities.

Off to work now, will check back at this when I get home :o
 
she has not read it yet as far as i know however there is nothing to do with our relationship here that she has any problems with. if she is unhappy about anything said i will amend it happily! i feel though everything said is fair. i dont think this should be perceived as a moaning thread. i have benefit from this all already and try not to make anyone appear as any thing, i am simply stating facts
 
cleanbluesky said:
Well she's going to see it at some point, and this will turn into a 3-way question and answer session... :p
if that happens close the thread, i dont think it will though, more likely she will support what i say. until then you can discredit this as much as you want! its at least a step closer to starting my autobiography
 
Matblack said:
I've just read the whole of the 3 main posts and I have to say congratulations, you have done amazingly well to conquour your issues with health and you have achieved what some people will never achieve, in essence you have become a 'normal' young man whatever the hell normal is.

However this leads me on to a second point and one which I don't think you will like all that much. What has happened to you with your girlfriend is 'normal' for a 19 year old, you have had a relationship whcih fell apart when you went away for a while, your girlfriend found another guy and you got your heart broken, happens all the time, and you WILL get over it. Yes it hit you harder because you have had other issues but its still a normal part of everyday life. Your first real love will always be special, she will always be someone you say 'what if?' about but this way trouble lies. Because she was your first major love you can't see the flaws in the relationship, if you use this as a yardstick to measure future relationships you will only hurt yourself, like you have gone and explored new countries go and explore new people too. Don't get hung up on going back to a country which has revoked your passport and you have little hope of returning too, constantly mooning over your holiday snaps, find another different destination.

You have come so far and conquoured so many things that people told you you never would, don't be stopped in your tracks by the same thing all teenagers experience (heartbreak) get back out there and have fun again.

MB
hard to reply as on my phone, but that is good advice thank you! i am trying to move on, i think i felt discussing it openly would help achieve this!
 
i never stopped her doing anything i just expressed my opinion on certain matters. as for the quote in the said linked thread, situation was slightly different. i could have said things in a different light and made them sound worse. i chose not to do or be like that! the fact i admit i was not the best boyfriend in the world goes to show i have tried to be honest. my faults have changed now. i am more open and a better person! i just wanted to vent really
 
I just want to make a brief apology to anything that Holly may have felt violated by from what I said, but anything said in the thread is nothing that is not general knowledge to my friends anyway (well to do with the relationship). The comment about violation if that is true I do apologise, but i struggle to understand that issue when our sex life and more has been openly discussed in front of people before. However thats not to say that it is right for me to have not consulted you before posting. I do feel though that the parts that may make Holly feel violated is actually a fairly small part of the whole situation. Everything really stems back from 5 years ago. Holly wasnt there to help me get better, just our relationship gave me something I couldnt have got from anyone else. I gained a lot of confidence through her, and learnt that I could love again. I do apologise about the details of the person Holly was with, my memory is obviously not great anyway and I tried to get it as accurate as possible. Wether that changes the situation at all is a completely different matter. As for Holly I would appreciate you emailing me the details I may have got wrong, though I dont think it changes pretty much any of the whole situation.

Thanks for everyones input, not sure about some of the feedback, as it has kind of missed the point on some places. Someone mentioned about putting all my eggs into one basket, I didnt do that as such. Just my most valuable eggs were stored with Holly. Those who know me will know I am a very caring person and value people higher than anything else. Holly I valued more than I could have ever expressed to her, and more than I perhaps even did express to her. Which is a shame and something I can not change now.

Someone also quoted me from a previous thread, the comment was taken out of context there really. It was Holly correcting me on saying I had cried more recently than I had said, which was a pretty irrelevant comment as it made no difference to the way I was feeling. I at the time if I were to have posted the thread would have left out any part of the story that made me appear bad (because i wasnt a great boyfriend all the time), and would have put things in black and white and could have made Holly sound nasty. The fact is she was not, she dealt with things her own way, which unfortunately is not the way i would have dealt with them.

I was accused of trying to control Holly, although it may seem like that, it was never my intention subconciously or conciously. To me it was just a few things that I had personal problems with that she did, I made them clear, because why have a relationship with out discussions of problems. Holly decided that she no longer wanted to do some of these things, and some times decided that she didnt want to tell me. She didnt want to tell me fair enough in fear that i would react badly... Which I would, but only because I have severe trouble controlling my emotions at points. It is something I really regret, and each time I reflect on these situations they really hurt. This is not to say that either of us were correct in our actions. In certain situations things were more my fault, and my reactions were worse. But in other situations I believe that perhap I reacted better.

This whole thread is not to make Holly look bad, because I dont think she is at all. We are different people now, that is a fact I am currently dealing with. Holly is an amazing person, and I will sing her praises til the cows come home. However I just wanted to get all the facts and details down into this thread to best try to explain who I am and why I feel the way I do. With out all of these details I do honestly believe that this would just appear to be another crying emo girlfriend thread. I am not saying its not, but surely there are parts of this all that make the situation slightly more unique.

People perhaps consider posting on this forum a bad idea because we both use it. I chose this forum because it gives Holly a chance to correct any facts, also because I use this forum more than any other forum. I have friends on this forum who can read it and understand more from the situation than they already do, just because there are certain things I know they would not take into consideration normally.

Finally there was a post about failing college because of a girl. It was not just Holly why I failed college, it was because of my more depressed state and I was staying up late and not sleeping properly. I started off missing the odd lecture to get out early and catch the earlier train for her.

Just to say to Holly again, if you could let me know any incorrect facts I will change them in my original post because I have no intention of having this thread full of false information.

EDIT: One last message to Cleanbluesky. I dont have any intentions of turning this forum into some type of cheap shot at someone I cared for. A few of the points you have raised have been interesting, but your general approach to this all I find shocking. I am not here to make someone look bad, I am simply trying to be as honest as I can to get some good advice. If you want me to write the message I was going to have written when I wrote that thread I will be more than happy to oblige but factually it will be off, and also it will make me seem like a victim and holly seem horrible. That I do not want to do!
 
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Quick reply FAO of certain people who know who they are. I feel that I have been treated unfairly in the fact that I posted all about this. Holly has in the past made a thread about our relationship it was said, but I never was consulted as to wether I wanted the thread to exist. The pressure been put on to me about this thread is ridiculous as i have done everything i can to make the statements fair and just. There are a couple of pieces of information which may be misinterpretted and they should have been cleared up by now. I think this thread also shows how awful human nature can be. I have not made anyone take sides and have stated equally both of our flaws. Certain parts of this are being focussed on in ways they are not supposed to be. People who have met Holly obviously will immediatly take her side in this whole situation, and this will obviously make me look worse than I am for first creating this thread. However, there are parts of this that I have left out to make things as neutral as possible. I have no where left to talk about this any more... My reasons for this I feel are best left unsaid in order to make no-one look bad in all of this.
 
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