REDD555 said:Played HL2 all the way through at 1920 and playing F.E.A.R. right now.
Both have to be seen to be believed. I can imagine that maybe impossibly fast paced games like Quake 3 or similar might have slight blurring but I've yet to try it. WoW and God games should be absolutely stunning though.
I guess this debate will rage on forever with LCD vs CRT gamers.
My advice is to see one running before you buy if you are worried.
Personally, coming from a illyama VMPro 450 19" CRT to this is a different world and I would NEVER go back
- perhaps it might be better for more gamers to be more informed consumers in the first place 
ps3ud0 said:You do realise the 20" Dell (2001FP/2005FPW?) uses a different panel to the Dell 2405 so you cant actually refer to the quality of this panel by looking at another
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Mate, I have a 2405FPW and Im well aware of the disadvantages - Im also aware that they are made from 2 different panels to different specs and assembled in different factories, just because the gross specification they delineate might be close doesnt infer that they are identical - 'practical' or otherwise :/...Shocky-FM said:They have the same specs practically, but if you want to believe that only the 2001/2005 have these problems then please continue..
All LCD's blur and have awful to poor black/greys , just some blur less then others.. If you want to believe otherwise then please continue in your little fantasy world like so many other people are doing.
...ps3ud0 said:Mate, I have a 2405FPW and Im well aware of the disadvantages - Im also aware that they are made from 2 different panels to different specs and assembled in different factories, just because the gross specification they delineate might be close doesnt infer that they are identical - 'practical' or otherwise :/...
Yes they all blur to some extent, but that an inert issue with the technology thats been well known since conception - perhaps you should have checked this before your initial purchase - but not all have poor blacks/greys - take the new Eizo S2110W...
You really need to read around before you attempt to make a considered observation and make sweeping remarks, also for the fact your experience is with only one TFT I wouldnt take your opinion as an expert one - especially without any justification other than the fact I like others am deluding themselves
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.ps3ud0 said:Sigh...great post - glad you shared
Perhaps it might be wise to wait more than 4days after moving from CRT to TFT to allow your eyes to adjust before you make a decision - I did when I went from a VM Pro 451 to a 2405FPW and find it acceptable, I used to play Q3 Clan Wars on it
Just takes time to get used to and a lot of people who have moved from CRT to TFT will agree to that...
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I dont think I did - just found the generalisations in the statements questionably to say the least...Baddass said:feel like i have to join in on this one. First of all, please try to avoid this being personal, there's no need for rolleyes guys
Baddass said:feel like i have to join in on this one. First of all, please try to avoid this being personal, there's no need for rolleyes guys
Saying that the Dell 2001FP/2005FPW and the 2405FPW are the same is a bit of a sweeping statement. There isn't much similarity other than the quoted response time and the manufacturer of the monitor!
Just because it is rated at 16ms does NOT make it the same as another 16ms display. Firstly they use two fundamentaly very different technologies, the 2005FPW using S-IPS from LG.Philips and the 2405FPW using overdriven PVA from Samsung. These both exhibit different characteristics inherant to their operational differences.
The S-IPS panel is a good 2 years old and that panel technology was never really the most responsive, out of all the technologies used in the market, this is probably the most unresponsive today. Colour reproduction is good, but black depth is bettered in VA panels, thanks to improved alignment of liquid crystals. The PVA panel in the 2405FPW is more responsive, partly due to overdrive, and the black depth and grey scale is improved as should be apparent to every user straight away just from the specs quoted for the contrast ratio (1000:1 as compared with 600:1). Brightness is better (500 candella per metre squared measured, as opposed to 350) and the panel is overall a much newer, and more up to date product.
Seeing as the response time seems to be your main focus here, here's a comparison of the 2001FP/2005FPW (essenitally the same panel) and the 2405FPW:
older, non overdriven S-IPS panel from LG.Philips in the 2005FPW
newer PVA panel from Samsung in the 2405FPW
these come from independent tests at THG. Now i am NOT saying that either screen is ideal for a hard core gamer. These aren't the most responsive panels in the market, and they DO show some blurring. I have seen it myself. However, many many people find them perfectly adequate for gaming, and do not notice the blurring or simply ignore it and get used to it. They aren't as fast as CRT's, and they aren't suited to everyone. Nooone ever said they were, but i personally would never go back to a CRT, and i know a lot of people feel the same
Or if I can find one, buy a Sony FW900.There are many other good LCD screens to look at, this thread was meant to be the celebration of Baddass' new monitorShocky-FM said:I have no idea what that tests involves or if it reflects the bluring in general use. But yes it looks better in those results. But not by allot.
Anyway, i'll be waiting another year before buying a LCD screen, those results just put me off even more since the ratings clearly mean nothing, how can I possiblily trust manufactures or even people on the internet that recommended the 2005PFW as a good monitor..
My last LCD was just over a year ago and that sucked, this Dell sucks so ill see whats available next year.
