*****My WOT4 MK2 Nitro RC Plane Assembly Log****

I think it probably could be repaired with some balsa

Unfortunately ALL the clubs round by me are full with a big waiting list, so I am having to take it to a remote field which isnt really suited to flying, I might get a smaller electric one.
 
Just had a go unfortunately.

After delving in at the deep end with a nitro engine, which don't get me wrong has many thrill factors, I slowly learnt that I had to make more of a commitment to fly it, big waiting list at clubs, big cost to build the thing, big cost with joining clubs etc.

I think after that lot, I am more looking at something I can fly quickly with less repair costs, like a good electric which has the ability to let me learn myself, doesnt cost a bomb to repair and can still fly well/get some good altitude.
 
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Well thats unlucky. Cant really tell from one picture how bad it is, but i am sure some balsa and epoxy and then solafilm and it will be fine again.

What went wrong, or was it jut pilot error?
 
Magic_x_uk said:
Well thats unlucky. Cant really tell from one picture how bad it is, but i am sure some balsa and epoxy and then solafilm and it will be fine again.

What went wrong, or was it jut pilot error?
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I had a nice take off, got it up to about 60-80 yards in the air, went to bank left and turn back to come round, lost slight control and it banked too far over, came behind me slightly and the wing clipped a tree sending it spiralling to the ground. I shouldn't have let it come too far behind, there was plenty of open space with no obstructions around, but one or two tree's behind me.

I think I could have done with some slightly reduced controls, I was using the minimum specified by the manual though :\
 
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DJMK4 said:
Just had a go unfortunately.

After delving in at the deep end with a nitro engine, which don't get me wrong has many thrill factors, I slowly learnt that I had to make more of a commitment to fly it, big waiting list at clubs, big cost to build the thing, big cost with joining clubs etc.

I think after that lot, I am more looking at something I can fly quickly with less repair costs, like a good electric which has the ability to let me learn myself, doesnt cost a bomb to repair and can still fly well/get some good altitude.
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get yourself GWS slow stick or even better make some scratch built foam models (rc-groups scratch built foamies for free plans a plenty) - learnt to fly something easy to repair, cheap to repair and easy to fly (ie high wing trainer) and then get back out with this. The wott4 is a great trainer i a club setting but you want something that bounces and can't hurt people to teach yourself.

Pretty sure that advice was given a few pages back but wouldn't want to say told you so;)
 
Try something along the lines of a shockflyer there good electric fun, cheap as chips etc, mend easily (even at the field) and are a lot of fun.

look on eg: als hobbies, icarus shockflyers,

or www.robotbirds.com

its all a learning curve.
 
Skidder said:
get yourself GWS slow stick or even better make some scratch built foam models (rc-groups scratch built foamies for free plans a plenty) - learnt to fly something easy to repair, cheap to repair and easy to fly (ie high wing trainer) and then get back out with this. The wott4 is a great trainer i a club setting but you want something that bounces and can't hurt people to teach yourself.

Pretty sure that advice was given a few pages back but wouldn't want to say told you so;)
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Yeah there are a few foamy options about, namely the Park zone models which I have looking at.

Was looking at either one of these.... but it doesnt look powerful enough for me, to floaty

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk...ne_Micro_Sukhoi_Su-26xp_RTF/product_info.html


or this..

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk...1355/Parkzone_Extra_300_BNF/product_info.html
 
DJMK4 said:
Yeah there are a few foamy options about, namely the Park zone models which I have looking at.

Was looking at either one of these.... but it doesnt look powerful enough for me, to floaty

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk...ne_Micro_Sukhoi_Su-26xp_RTF/product_info.html


or this..

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk...1355/Parkzone_Extra_300_BNF/product_info.html
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seriously keep it simple - you are getting good advice. The planes you are linking to are not right for you. You want a HIGH WING TRAINER - making a foamie yourself would improve your build skills no end, if you don't fancy that go shock flyer (although why pay someone to cut out a flat piece of foam when you can have more fun doing it yourself) or better yet a slow stick.

Do not buy a plane that you like the look of or looks 'powerful' buy something easy to fly and repair, learn to fly and then fly the wott 4

You really would not go wrong with a slow stick. Everyone I know who has started with one has learnt quickly, safely, cheaply and had fun. Many people still fly and mod them for ages (they make great camera planes for example).

Do not buy either of the planes you linked unless you fancy posting up some pics of a load of broken foam.

I went from slow stick to scratch built foamie piper cub with ailerons and then by the end of that I could fly well and build whatever I like.
 
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Just re read this and it inspired me to get my little biplane down, suffice to say the 30 mins I spent getting it all together was not worth the 15 second flight time >.> no damage but my reciever must be faulty because everytime it got more than about 10 feet away controls just went wacky, batterys good as well
 
I just re-examined my WOT, it should be repairable I think, but I am going to take some advice and get a cheap trainer foamy, but I am not sure on which one, I want one that has similar abilities to the WOT, can gain some decent height and can carry and if possible be able to carry a small cam, I have seen this been done, but its not my main priority, I just thought it would be cool to attach a cam.

So...

link me up with some trainers that are ready to fly, compatible with Spektrum DSM2 technology, I am looking to spend around £50-70 for a trainer
 
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Here are some more pics of the damage

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I'd really recommend a slow stick.

I built a nice balsa elec "sport" model as my first plane. Got some time on the sim, then managed about 3 flights on the balsa model before crashing into a tree. Write off.

Next I got a slow stick and had loads of fun with it. I still fly it now, even though I now have loads of other more challenging models. It's nice just to chill with the slow stick on a still sunny day. Also epic for camera runs.

If you really don't want a slow stick and fancy something sporty or 3d make sure it's an EPP foam model so it bounces of the floor instead of shatters. But be aware they are MUCH harder to fly when beginning, especially a 3d model when it's set up with the proper rearward center of gravity.

My latest plane is the precision aerobatics addiction, balsa 3d plane. Scares the **** out of me each time because if I get it wrong it's going to smash into small pieces! Fun though.
 
Couple of options I'd reccomend:

The GWS Slow Stick (£30) comes with a weedy motor to get you started. It would just need a cheap standard ESC (not brushless) and a ni-cad battery + charger. If you have these batteries already it would be a MEGA CHEAP option to get you flying as you already have the tx / rx / servo's.

Another option is again a GWS Slow Stick but in addition buy a brush-less ESC and motor to put on it. This would also need a li-po battery and charger. Maybe get some micro servos too. So the outlay is more but you would have MUCH more power on tap, my slow stick goes vertical on a cheap brush-less setup.

This option is also more future proof as if you get bored you could buy a cheap 3D EPP plane and put the brushless setup / micro servo's on. :)

Hopefully others will chip in on the cheapest place to get a GWS Slow Stick. For the electrics i'd keep to cheap stuff for now and buy from http://www.giantcod.co.uk.

I'll try to spec something that would work well on a Slow Stick and a 3D plane. I'll need a while though it's been ages since I've had to work out prop sizes / brushless kv ratings / etc!
 
If you want to go brushless on the slow stick basically get what this guy got. This is pretty much exactly what I had in the cart on giant cod - nice brushless setup.

I added a charger here which is the expensive bit. You could save by getting a cheap one, but li-po batteries need respect so it's nice to have a decent charger. Also you can charge two at once with this, etc.

Once you have the kit it's then very cheap to just buy another motor / esc for another model, and re-use your batteries etc. :)



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anything that is a slow flying model, high wing, (ie the wing fits on the top of the model).

They may not be as pretty as a cap, acrowot, sukhoi, mustang and spitfire etc, but you have to start with something that is forgiving. That fly's itself pretty much.

Electric maybe a good idea to start with. I know so many people who want to fly rc and they pick a spitfire for eg, it is in no way a model to start with.

http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=37259
http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=13653
those models, your rc gear would fit in fine.

Just to give you a idea

Stop worrying about carrying a cam, you need to learn to fly, land, turn, wind problems, deadstick etc before all that

also looking at the damage in the photos you have uploaded, just looks to be like the mounting for the undercarriage. Clean it up, make sure no fuel residue on there, get some 1-2 hour epoxy on there and it should be fine, recover and job done.
 
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