*****My WOT4 MK2 Nitro RC Plane Assembly Log****

DJMK4 said:
Cheers for the post Benneh! good to know there is someone else with the same model, and I agree I was stupid the first time round, I feel this model hopefully should give me a little more learning ability but I am going to take 100% extra caution.

I think it would be good to discuss notes? do you have msn or something? also where abouts are you planning on flying it? I am pretty stuffed on clubs around here as they are all full with a long waiting list. Hence why I wanted an electric one, although it seems to be the same size as my wot with a slightly larger wing span. I would say that mine is around 60% built at the moment, unfortunatly my weekend has been quite busy with my granddad in hospital so I have been with the family most of this weekend, but today is free.

I do have a quick question! when I got the model, the inside (where the servo's) where set-up, the rods where inserted in to their relevant servo control rods, however, the rudder control rod was not attached to anything???? there is only 2 servo's in the main fuselage, one for motor/throttle which has a double sided servo arm, and one for the elevator which is only half a servo arm, where does the rudder control rod fit to? surely it doesnt connect directly to the one controlling the throttle??
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The throttle control comes directly from the receiver chap, not from a servo (follow the wire coming from channel 3 of the receiver).
So you have the elevator coming from the single servo arm, and the rudder and front wheel coming from the other (see pic). The Aileron servos being moulded in the wing ofc, and iirc plug into slot 1 of the receiver.


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As for where I'm flying, I'm undecided atm, might go and have a scout tomorrow, but I'll most likely have a scout for locations online tonight, and have a drive out towards the country tomorrow for a looksee. I wont be joining a club either, the whole point of going with a cheap trainer for me was knowing that I'd be teaching myself. Get a load of sim time in, find a big open space with no-one for miles, away I go ;p. Drop me an email in trust for msn dude.
 
Ahh thats it!! Thanks mate! I am going to give this ago now and get it set-up. Let me know if you find anywhere.

And I have phoenix RC sim so will be on that constantly

Ill add you on MSN shortly

Skidder - Yeah sorry being new to the ESC set-up I wasnt sure but now I know what's going on.
 
Just sent you a trust with my msn, if you could add me, I want to ask a question about the radio set-up, I am using my AR7000 Spektrum receiver, can someone clarify that I am doing this the right way

that the battery is plugged in to the ESC then there is another cable coming from the ESC that needs to be plugged in to the receiver's battery pins? I don't want to blow my £50 receiver, I also have a switch from my other model, can I use this?
 
ESC to battery. Cable from ESC goes to channel 1 or 3 on RX (receiver) usually channel 1, but some radio etc are different. But 99% of them are channel 1. You usually have a switch on some of the wires on the ESC, if not dont worry, think of connecting the battery as the switch.

You also normally have to arm the ESC, instruction book should tell you. Sometimes it is a few beeps, sometimes you have to have the throttle at low position then move it up then back down again.

Play around, you will work it out. You wont blow your rx.

Also your ESC wants to be positioned somewhere where it can keep cool. I have mine on some models fixed to the outside or I build a form of venting into the model.
 

Yesterday icarus touched the sun. Many lulz were had.

So, I drove out into the countryside with a friend (also an OcUK member), we found 3-4 suitable fields, and eventually settled on a totally unsuitable field; thick knee high grass, couple of huge trees dotted about, etc. Never the less it felt 'right'. I expected to crash out in a big way (note - we were literally in the middle of nowhere - minimizing the chances of me blowing up a school/orphanage/nuclear facility/taking down the south wing of a country mansion).

It was rather windy, I opted for hand launch (so capably executed by my wing man) and pr0 belly-flop long grass landing. There was no way I was goign to be able to land it conventionally in the wind, but I felt fairly confident about flying around, with a view to a soft 'splash down'.

Anyway, 2 flights, first landing I slammed it into a fence dividing the fields (lol) about 30ft past where I was intending to splash down, fortunately it scrubbed a lot of speed traveling into the wind prior to 'touch' down, small dent to foam motor cowl. 2nd was better, but she had a rough splash down, I was in grave danger of hitting the fence again, so I ditched her quite hard 10ft before fence action. Soft grass saves. No damage done.


The actual flying was erratic, intensely scary, absolutely nothing like sim flying (I would say the sim prepared me for the basics, gave me an idea of how to react, and most importantly taught me about orientation and the control system - but beyond that you're in no mans land, rigid with shock).. I think I did pretty well in the air. I would say to DJMK4, beware, trainer or not, everything changes from split second to split second. I was flying in a fairly windy spot, and being as gentle as I could with the controls, and it was intense and largely random..
I made sure I had a reasonable height with regards to clipping trees etc (I actually clipped the very top of a huge tree anyway, I have no idea how I got away with it.. I just tried to hit the power and fly into the fall, fortunately the gods smiled on me). In terms of trim it was hard going, being a noob and having this thing flying around at a million miles an hour with wind moving it around etc, the importance of trim cannot be overstated! lol.
I trimmed the elevator the wrong way during the first flight, due to nerves, and that played a huge part in my hitting the fence, and meant I was having to constantly thumb-up the elevator during flight, avoiding stalling/gaining height, meaning I was having to apply lots of power, increasing the overall speed of the flight etc. But during the second flight, having realised my error I managed to get her flying reasonably straight, requiring considerable elevator and aileron trim. Overall, I was scared and have a new and rather massive appreciation for RC plane pilots.. My god..

Things that I note:

*I'll only be flying the most difficult planes in the sim from now on, with the wind and gusts turned up. Even then, the reflection of real life flying is murky at best.
*Trimming the plane correctly is essential, I will also be sure to balance the plane properly in terms of CG.
*Wind is scary. I was determined to fly yesterday, but in reality I probably shouldn't have. Next time I'll try for a calm environment.
*Trees are bad, especially when they are behind you, you tend to think you have a lot more space behind you than you actually do.
*I need to leave a much much longer run for my descent and landing, and remember to slow down a lot more on approach.
*If I were that way inclined, joining a club and acquiring the correct training would be highly recommended. I'm not, and so I wont, but I certainly recommend it..
*For me 4 channel was the best choice, without ailerons I wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds.
*I need to buy several large capacity batteries. I got 6-7 mins flight time from a full charge, and although this felt like a lifetime in the face of the raw onslaught of terror, I want a lot more..
*Think like a boss.

Brb off to buy a jet.

 
Been a bit of a delay on mine, its 80% built, all I need to do is charge my battery (I need to buy a deans connector to come from my balance charger, picking this up tomorrow). make sure pre-installed servo's are centre, set-up the expo, balance the thing and ensure everything is working and set-up as it should be.

Do all final checks then get some more SIM time, and scope about, I already know one place I can fly, however might be slightly windier than I expect as its near a coast line.
 
benneh said:

Yesterday icarus touched the sun. Many lulz were had.

So, I drove out into the countryside with a friend (also an OcUK member), we found 3-4 suitable fields, and eventually settled on a totally unsuitable field; thick knee high grass, couple of huge trees dotted about, etc. Never the less it felt 'right'. I expected to crash out in a big way (note - we were literally in the middle of nowhere - minimizing the chances of me blowing up a school/orphanage/nuclear facility/taking down the south wing of a country mansion).

It was rather windy, I opted for hand launch (so capably executed by my wing man) and pr0 belly-flop long grass landing. There was no way I was goign to be able to land it conventionally in the wind, but I felt fairly confident about flying around, with a view to a soft 'splash down'.

Anyway, 2 flights, first landing I slammed it into a fence dividing the fields (lol) about 30ft past where I was intending to splash down, fortunately it scrubbed a lot of speed traveling into the wind prior to 'touch' down, small dent to foam motor cowl. 2nd was better, but she had a rough splash down, I was in grave danger of hitting the fence again, so I ditched her quite hard 10ft before fence action. Soft grass saves. No damage done.


The actual flying was erratic, intensely scary, absolutely nothing like sim flying (I would say the sim prepared me for the basics, gave me an idea of how to react, and most importantly taught me about orientation and the control system - but beyond that you're in no mans land, rigid with shock).. I think I did pretty well in the air. I would say to DJMK4, beware, trainer or not, everything changes from split second to split second. I was flying in a fairly windy spot, and being as gentle as I could with the controls, and it was intense and largely random..
I made sure I had a reasonable height with regards to clipping trees etc (I actually clipped the very top of a huge tree anyway, I have no idea how I got away with it.. I just tried to hit the power and fly into the fall, fortunately the gods smiled on me). In terms of trim it was hard going, being a noob and having this thing flying around at a million miles an hour with wind moving it around etc, the importance of trim cannot be overstated! lol.
I trimmed the elevator the wrong way during the first flight, due to nerves, and that played a huge part in my hitting the fence, and meant I was having to constantly thumb-up the elevator during flight, avoiding stalling/gaining height, meaning I was having to apply lots of power, increasing the overall speed of the flight etc. But during the second flight, having realised my error I managed to get her flying reasonably straight, requiring considerable elevator and aileron trim. Overall, I was scared and have a new and rather massive appreciation for RC plane pilots.. My god..

Things that I note:

*I'll only be flying the most difficult planes in the sim from now on, with the wind and gusts turned up. Even then, the reflection of real life flying is murky at best.
*Trimming the plane correctly is essential, I will also be sure to balance the plane properly in terms of CG.
*Wind is scary. I was determined to fly yesterday, but in reality I probably shouldn't have. Next time I'll try for a calm environment.
*Trees are bad, especially when they are behind you, you tend to think you have a lot more space behind you than you actually do.
*I need to leave a much much longer run for my descent and landing, and remember to slow down a lot more on approach.
*If I were that way inclined, joining a club and acquiring the correct training would be highly recommended. I'm not, and so I wont, but I certainly recommend it..
*For me 4 channel was the best choice, without ailerons I wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds.
*I need to buy several large capacity batteries. I got 6-7 mins flight time from a full charge, and although this felt like a lifetime in the face of the raw onslaught of terror, I want a lot more..
*Think like a boss.

Brb off to buy a jet.

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Foam and wind is not a good combination. Wait for a still day and you will find it much, much kinder to you. I can fly some of my foamies in quite strong wind but only because I know them well (and of course because of my epic skillz) do yourself a favour and fly on calm days to begin with.

No need to fly the hardest plane in your sim, pick ones with similar qualities (ie very light, high wing). If you fly a foamie in the sims with high and gusting wind it will probably feel hard as hell.

Re those batteries get yourself to hobby king. I've got loads of batteries from them that are every bit as good as big brand ones and so much cheaper.
 
DJMK4 said:
Been a bit of a delay on mine, its 80% built, all I need to do is charge my battery (I need to buy a deans connector to come from my balance charger, picking this up tomorrow). make sure pre-installed servo's are centre, set-up the expo, balance the thing and ensure everything is working and set-up as it should be.

Do all final checks then get some more SIM time, and scope about, I already know one place I can fly, however might be slightly windier than I expect as its near a coast line.
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Good stuff dude. I'll probably catch you on msn, but mine needed some uber trim, the elevator is way down, ailerons over to the right. And wind is your enemy, of this there is no doubt. I'd imagine it would be great fun to fly in the wind once you are pretty good, but for a noob it's scary as anything lol.


Skidder said:
Foam and wind is not a good combination. Wait for a still day and you will find it much, much kinder to you. I can fly some of my foamies in quite strong wind but only because I know them well (and of course because of my epic skillz) do yourself a favour and fly on calm days to begin with.

No need to fly the hardest plane in your sim, pick ones with similar qualities (ie very light, high wing). If you fly a foamie in the sims with high and gusting wind it will probably feel hard as hell.

Re those batteries get yourself to hobby king. I've got loads of batteries from them that are every bit as good as big brand ones and so much cheaper.
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Hobby king, ty, duly noted. Yup, still day next time for me, probably the weekend all being well.

Malt_Vinegar said:
If I add only one thing, that to use gentle, slow and controlled inputs. Small foamy trainer in the wind was never going to be smooth :D
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Dude it was wild. I was trying to be as smooth as possible, but largely it was big swift adjustments, to fight the ever changing direction and attitude. But, lesson learned!..

We should start an rc plane thread tbh, i feel like I'm derailing DJMK4's thread, and I'll be posting a lot more whilst learning etc.
 
Just come across this thread! I still fly my WOT4 and love it. Soon enough youwill be on to these sorts of beasts which is a whole new ball game but tons of fun!

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Cant tell from photo, but thats either a large 4 stroke, Petrol or a slim chance it is a turbine prop, been thinking of getting into petrol again myself, used to have a large cap 232 with a zenoah in it. Always liked petrol engines due to torque and of course wanting the obligatry smoke systems.



Nice model though.
 
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benneh said:
Good stuff dude. I'll probably catch you on msn, but mine needed some uber trim, the elevator is way down, ailerons over to the right. And wind is your enemy, of this there is no doubt. I'd imagine it would be great fun to fly in the wind once you are pretty good, but for a noob it's scary as anything lol.




Hobby king, ty, duly noted. Yup, still day next time for me, probably the weekend all being well.



Dude it was wild. I was trying to be as smooth as possible, but largely it was big swift adjustments, to fight the ever changing direction and attitude. But, lesson learned!..

We should start an rc plane thread tbh, i feel like I'm derailing DJMK4's thread, and I'll be posting a lot more whilst learning etc.
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Hi mate, didn't receive anything about MSN? send again to my trust e-mail?

I got my deans connector today so can charge, and I have a day off tomorrow, and weather is mighty fine at the mo :)

Also created an official rc plane thread :)
 
Magic_x_uk said:
Cant tell from photo, but thats either a large 4 stroke, Petrol or a slim chance it is a turbine prop, been thinking of getting into petrol again myself, used to have a large cap 232 with a zenoah in it. Always liked petrol engines due to torque and of course wanting the obligatry smoke systems.



Nice model though.
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50cc DA (Desert Aircraft), shed loads of power on the 23 inch prop :)

Wish i could face spanking £4k on a turbo prop, would be superb in a 50cc or 100cc size aerobaic model.
 
I hear you Wynthorpe. There was a time when I nearly spent a lot on a DA engine, when i saw James Morris flying a huge Pitts. This was at the LMA Show at Cosforth. The smoke machine on it was out of this world.

Let me see if i can find a video on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUOSYq0Vmbg
There you go, see what i mean about smoke machine?, 16 sevos in there. Christ most i have in models is 6.

I also looked at the cost of the Pitts kit, forget who makes it now. Best part of £1k if i recall.

Amazing power those engines. I agree there will be plenty of power in that engine of yours.


Here is the kit
http://www.probuild-uk.co.uk/shop/i...ct&keyword=pitts&category_id=0&product_id=468
£1800.
 
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Damn I would never dare fly anything approaching the 2K mark! My Addiction 3D is scary enough and that's only a couple of hundred pounds worth of kit at most.

A nice relaxing slow stick flight is where it's at. If you somehow manage to crash it, just change the prop or something and off you go again. And you can fly them backwards if it's windy. :D
 
Bear in mind, that is £2k for the kit. IE wood.

Does not include engine, radio gear, back up gear, smoke machine, batteries to name a few.

You wouldnt get much change out of perhaps £4k on that pitts in that video i posted.

Another one to think about it jet turbine. exactly the same as on real planes, just smaller. I have been to rc shows where some models have 4 of them.

You can spend a fortune on some models.
 
Sorry for not replying earlier Magic, been on hols for a week on a cruise -

I bet the MX2 stand me at close to £2k all up! and the Comparf probably more.

I have 6 SAVOX digi servos in the MX2 and the Comparf Extra in the background has 6 FUTABA S9156 digitals and a DA50 also.

Radio wise i use the Hitec Aurora 9 and this beast is the nuts, cannot be beat for £300 for the Tx thats for sure, its the easiest tghin ive ever used and the 7 inch touchscreen makes things a whole lot easier.
 
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