*****My WOT4 MK2 Nitro RC Plane Assembly Log****

I have a helmet cam (for snowboarding and so on), it is almost worth me lending it to you so you can record the glorious maiden flight.

I actually have the maiden of my first plane, a slow stick, on film so we could compare notes;);););) I even had the rudder controls reversed yet still managed to do a circuit and land it, as it is that stable!
 
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Sometimes the back to basics planes are the most fun. You will have a much better time flying something like a slow stick which you don't have to worry about crashing then a full body plane! Thats why I built myself a small flying wing using £2 worth of foam! Though I must say I am tempted to make a fairly hot slowstick....
 
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Sometimes the back to basics planes are the most fun. .
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you're right, one of my most fun planes is a circle cut out of EPP with rudder and elevator, it flies slow if you want, self corrects (there is dihedral in the tips) and can be hovered into the hand. Took about an hour to scratch build and is more fun than anything.
 
You do like ignoring advice don't you DJMK4.

Only thumbs up you get from me is the fact it is made from EPO - which goes in your favour but apart from that.. hmm! The wing on this plane looks to have not much in the way of dihedral and so will not correct itself.. pretty much like what you just totalled but electric! Rudder and ailerons again! Again your jumping in too deep. It may look pretty out the box but you want to have a successful flight, right?? Not spend 12 months looking and it/building? :confused:

Oh well..

Get help before/during the flight, is about all I have left to say.
 
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Im not going to spend 12 months building it, it will be done this weekend, also, whats wrong with having rudder and ailerons?

My mistake with my WOT crash is that I had too much control throw, I can reduce these down as much as I want on my Spektrum radio but I was going by the minimum on what it said in the WOT manual, for beginners. Rudder/ailerons I will have to get used to these anyhow so why not now with a model that's suited as a trainer.

I learnt my lesson with the WOT, I rushed in to flying it because I wanted to fly it, now I know that I should take my time a bit more with preparing to fly and actual flying.
 
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Im not going to spend 12 months building it, it will be done this weekend, also, whats wrong with having rudder and ailerons?

My mistake with my WOT crash is that I had too much control throw, I can reduce these down as much as I want on my Spektrum radio but I was going by the minimum on what it said in the WOT manual, for beginners. Rudder/ailerons I will have to get used to these anyhow so why not now with a model that's suited as a trainer.
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it is much harder to fly, as everyone has told you, several times

If you are not getting instruction, rudder, elevator, throttle is much, much easier, chuck in some dihedral and away you go. Get used to that then ailerons. You know best though. I guess you've been into the hobby now for a year or so.

Do you think there may be some truth in what we're saying, given that absolutely everyone with a lot of experience agrees?
 
DJMK4 said:
Im not going to spend 12 months building it, it will be done this weekend, also, whats wrong with having rudder and ailerons?

My mistake with my WOT crash is that I had too much control throw, I can reduce these down as much as I want on my Spektrum radio but I was going by the minimum on what it said in the WOT manual, for beginners. Rudder/ailerons I will have to get used to these anyhow so why not now with a model that's suited as a trainer.

I learnt my lesson with the WOT, I rushed in to flying it because I wanted to fly it, now I know that I should take my time a bit more with preparing to fly and actual flying.
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Have you ever thought about it the other way, that infact you are doing too large input movements, not the throw was too much. Have you even racked up any sim time on your pc? If not then I suggest doing that too, should be able to get a usb cable for the tx.

My first plane was a Sky Scooter 2, which had ailerons and elevator. Wasn't the easiest to learn really, and looking back comparing to my Dad's GWS Beaver it was silly to get a first plane with ailerons.

Do remember if you had bought the slow stick all the motor/battery/esc/receiver/servos would have been transferable to a different plane, meaning you could have swapped to an advanced trainer for £30-40! Heck parkflyers are so cheap now you could have just kept both in flying condition and been able to let a mate fly one.
 
Looking at the pics mate, it's not a big spill. Just a flesh wound. Replace what looks like the balsa beam and then some balsa sheet over the top and good as new. Foam is a good way to go, but even then, you can be as good a flyer as anyone but that rogue gust of wind or electrical interferance and the plane is down. Main thing is no one was hurt.

Liked the videos flying, reminded me of when me and my mate strapped his Hi-8 Handycam (going back to about 1998 here, so it was a decent size/weight!) to a Chris Foss Wots-Wot, now that was strange to fly, with all the weight of the camera on one side of the plane! :D

Though i did spend most of my time flying my Wot to learn, i did actually start by building a small Rudder/Elevator Balsa high wing powered by a tiny Cox .020 engine. Still got it, was great fun, fuel and prime, start the engine with a flick and throw and just gain height until it ran out of fuel and then just glide back down again!
 
The wings are wider than my wot, really impressed with the kit though, does feel sturdy and very strong, still got bits to do but thought I would put a pic up

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always wanted to have a go with RC planes and wot not, any suggestions for a good online store for these
 
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always wanted to have a go with RC planes and wot not, any suggestions for a good online store for these
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Depends what sort of plane you are after. Here is a few places I have used.

www.giantcod.co.uk (Great for motors, batteries and servos etc)
www.robotbirds.com (Also got a good selection of electrical bits)
www.hobbyking.com (Cheap prices but watch out on postage)
www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk (Get all my GWS planes from them, though not cheap on electronics)

I would probably get a local hobby shop to order in the plane you want. Then from there get the electronics from giantcod/robotbirds. That's if you are after an electric parkflyer.
 
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I bought this ST Discovery a while ago but I haven't flown it yet, I'll be flying it this week coming. I've got some experience with gliders, and a good grasp of the controls/principals, and if I ditch it it's no great loss - I expect to.. It will be repaired).

I have to say I think the op's attitude isn't really the right type of attitude to go into the hobby with. I wasn't surprised to see that you'd binned it bro, but I'm glad that it looks repairable, and that you've gone for something a bit more sensible.

I've spent quite a while (70+ hours over the last few months) flying in ClearView, have some previous experience, and I've followed what seems to have been good logical advice when purchasing (high wide wing, fairly slow plane, light but not too light, foam/easy repairs, reasonable 1st to 2nd plane, not too boring etc - ignoring my urge to buy big/nitro).
Spares are reasonably easy to get a hold of, takes to upgrades/mods quite well etc. So I dunno, I think maybe DJMK4 made a decent choice this time. Having spoken to several owners and watched lots of vids, they seem to be stable, fairly slow to respond etc, hardly a dart with a jet engine on the back (in my pic, that's a large double bed, the wing span is quite large, it should be fairly stable). Put in plenty of sim time chap and go on a quiet day, take it easy. Keep the WOT and repair it while you're learning, then when you have some real confidence/skill, give it another shot. Otherwise you're just asking for trouble. I'll no doubt go nitro after some time with this myself.


I shall report back! :D. I'll be asking a friend (fellow forum member) to film my grand failure.

Oh just to add, I've been advised to replace the wheels with larger wheels, apparently it can tend to nose dive if landing on rough grass, we shall see..
 
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Back when I was a kid I built a Precedent Flyboy (think thats what it was called) from Balsa. Took me weeks as it was a complete flat pack.

Was a high wing trainer with two wheels at the front (rear dragger). Only had a rudder as it was 3 channels but it was more than a handful to learn on! You don't need airelons to learn with as I had more than enough fun with my 3-channel beast doing loops and all sorts. I managed quite a few successful flights just learning the basics and did a few successful loops until I couldnt pull out of one and it just went straight down and the front half was in pieces!

A couple of weeks later I had rebuilt the front and it was flying again. Yours has hardly any damage so why cant you fix it? Learning how to fix wooden models can save you heaps of money in the long run. Whenever I crashed mine I just thought ah well down the model shop to buy some wood and I'll build that part again with glue!

I always wanted a newer model with 4 channels but couldnt afford it. Looking back I did so much stuff with mine I didnt even need a fourth channel or ailerons. Theres so much stuff to do with only 3 channels that you can learn loads then move to a more expensive 4 channel one later.

On the flip-side, I never learnt on a park flyer and went straight to that high wing trainer and learnt fine on it. I never crashed it until I started to try loops or getting cocky! Are you able to fly your new one with the airelons locked in place to just learn 3 channels?
 
saitrix said:
Depends what sort of plane you are after. Here is a few places I have used.

www.giantcod.co.uk (Great for motors, batteries and servos etc)
www.robotbirds.com (Also got a good selection of electrical bits)
www.hobbyking.com (Cheap prices but watch out on postage)
www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk (Get all my GWS planes from them, though not cheap on electronics)

I would probably get a local hobby shop to order in the plane you want. Then from there get the electronics from giantcod/robotbirds. That's if you are after an electric parkflyer.
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cheers for that, been looking around my area for RC planes and theres not much in my little area of yorkshire :(
 
Cheers for the post Benneh! good to know there is someone else with the same model, and I agree I was stupid the first time round, I feel this model hopefully should give me a little more learning ability but I am going to take 100% extra caution.

I think it would be good to discuss notes? do you have msn or something? also where abouts are you planning on flying it? I am pretty stuffed on clubs around here as they are all full with a long waiting list. Hence why I wanted an electric one, although it seems to be the same size as my wot with a slightly larger wing span. I would say that mine is around 60% built at the moment, unfortunatly my weekend has been quite busy with my granddad in hospital so I have been with the family most of this weekend, but today is free.

I do have a quick question! when I got the model, the inside (where the servo's) where set-up, the rods where inserted in to their relevant servo control rods, however, the rudder control rod was not attached to anything???? there is only 2 servo's in the main fuselage, one for motor/throttle which has a double sided servo arm, and one for the elevator which is only half a servo arm, where does the rudder control rod fit to? surely it doesnt connect directly to the one controlling the throttle??
 
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