I tansfered my PC into a new Antec 900, from OcUK, yesterday. I Can honestly say for the amount of fans that it comes with it's a very quiet case. I have all the fans set to medium and all I can hear is a slight whir. I can feel it though, that 200mm on top seriously expels the air.
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WJA96 said:Have you seen the Laing Special Edition?
Do you reckon fitting one of these would possibly block the memory sockets on an EVGA 680i mobo. Having seen this thread and never tried water cooling myself I am intrigued and while I am sure the compact one does the job, I like the look of this. But looking at the pics on Alphacools site it looks like it might block the memory slots.
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You mean you wouldn't be able to see the memory? No, you can't, but it is sitting about 5cm above the RAM so you can still use all 4 slots. I only had the 1 Laing and it was the only one I had any problems with (it won't take rough handling, say no more so as not to incriminate myself eh?
)WJA96 said:You mean you wouldn't be able to see the memory? No, you can't, but it is sitting about 5cm above the RAM so you can still use all 4 slots. I only had the 1 Laing and it was the only one I had any problems with (it won't take rough handling, say no more so as not to incriminate myself eh?
Interesting......was it easy to setup....no water cooling experience here, and would like something that could cool down my quad core better then the Tuniq without major noise and is not too hard to fit. This sounds ideal. Only thing is the manufcturer who sells it says they don't ship it overseas with the coolant inside due to the cold temps in the planes cargo hold which can cause the seals to break !! Also, do yo forsee any compatability issues with an Eclipse or TJ09.
Reading more into it...and I am thinking of getting this...it's really not too pricey direct from the manufacturer.
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Flanno said:
It is absolutely simplicity itself to set up. The overseas shipping thing is outside of Europe so don't worry about that - yours should come pre-filled for the Republic. I can see no compatibility issues at all with the Eclipse as it has tonnes of room. You need about 2cm of a gap for the bottom of the radiator so as long as the case you are mounting it in has 2cm on the bottom of the 120mm fan housing, there is no problem fitting it at all.
Cheers. Thanks for the info.
Just onto the manufacturer. Any of the stuff they ship by plane will not have the liquid added. I assume it is easy to add it myself or will I have to watch for stuff like airbubbles.
And sorry for going off topic, but what is the best liquid to add (assuming down the road I have to fill it up again, or even if I decide to go for a different water cooling solution).
There is distilled water, then there is ready for use mixtures like Tec protect which come in standard, plus and ultra flavours. Some contain glycol and some contain phosphor carboxyclic acid. All a bit confusing really.
<edit> Also I forgot to add - on the Akasa Eclipse/Mirage, if the rear fan is now dedicated to cooling the radiator for watercooling, how will the G80 SLI setup be cooled. Will it be sufficient to have a single front fan for the hdd's and the thermal sidepanel for the gpu's as I have now. Just wondering how hot air is supposed to get removed as there will be no dedicated exhaust fans. Maybe a top blowhole in the eclipse/mirage ? </edit>
Just onto the manufacturer. Any of the stuff they ship by plane will not have the liquid added. I assume it is easy to add it myself or will I have to watch for stuff like airbubbles.
And sorry for going off topic, but what is the best liquid to add (assuming down the road I have to fill it up again, or even if I decide to go for a different water cooling solution).
There is distilled water, then there is ready for use mixtures like Tec protect which come in standard, plus and ultra flavours. Some contain glycol and some contain phosphor carboxyclic acid. All a bit confusing really.
<edit> Also I forgot to add - on the Akasa Eclipse/Mirage, if the rear fan is now dedicated to cooling the radiator for watercooling, how will the G80 SLI setup be cooled. Will it be sufficient to have a single front fan for the hdd's and the thermal sidepanel for the gpu's as I have now. Just wondering how hot air is supposed to get removed as there will be no dedicated exhaust fans. Maybe a top blowhole in the eclipse/mirage ? </edit>
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Why not order it from GB then?
[I had to slap myself to stop typing 'the mainland'
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The way it works you will have no issues with bubbles as the pump is the submersible type and the header tank it sits in is the highest point in the system so any bubbles will just work themselves back upto that. If the manufacturers are not shipping it filled then I suspect they will supply their own TEC stuff. You still shouldn't have to do up any pipe clips though, so it should be 30 minutes to fit it plus a few minutes to fill the system with the pump running.
Where abouts in ROI are you?
[I had to slap myself to stop typing 'the mainland'
]The way it works you will have no issues with bubbles as the pump is the submersible type and the header tank it sits in is the highest point in the system so any bubbles will just work themselves back upto that. If the manufacturers are not shipping it filled then I suspect they will supply their own TEC stuff. You still shouldn't have to do up any pipe clips though, so it should be 30 minutes to fit it plus a few minutes to fill the system with the pump running.
Where abouts in ROI are you?
South of ROI - Limerick.
Getting it from Germany seems cheaper then UK, especially the shipping.
They said they will supply the liquid plus all instructions.
Just waiting for my credit card to get healthy again and I think I will order
Still a bit concerned about how the rest of the components will get cooled seeing as there won't be a dedicated outake fan for the gpu's/hdd's now. At least in the Mirage.
Getting it from Germany seems cheaper then UK, especially the shipping.
They said they will supply the liquid plus all instructions.
Just waiting for my credit card to get healthy again and I think I will order
Still a bit concerned about how the rest of the components will get cooled seeing as there won't be a dedicated outake fan for the gpu's/hdd's now. At least in the Mirage.
Flanno said:South of ROI - Limerick.
Getting it from Germany seems cheaper then UK, especially the shipping.
They said they will supply the liquid plus all instructions.
Just waiting for my credit card to get healthy again and I think I will order
Still a bit concerned about how the rest of the components will get cooled seeing as there won't be a dedicated outake fan for the gpu's/hdd's now. At least in the Mirage.
You live in 'Stab City'!
I used to work as the IT Manager for a firm in Belfast. I had to support people in Tralee, so I used to drive through Limerick quite a bit. I was advised to drive fast and have the windows shut and the doors locked at all times. That was one hell of a drive though. 8 hours to go 300 miles! Thank goodness for the Nena by-pass and the Garda's carpy speed guns (they don't work over 115mph so he couldn't do me! - but he did ask for a Widow's and Orphans donation). The Garda are the best/nicest/most polite Police in the world in my opinion, but staggeringly badly equipped.
Anyhoo - just because the fan on the back is pushing air through the radiator doesn't mean it doesn't still work as an extraction fan - it'll still be pulling all the air out, just like it did before. It's a great system. One fan does 2 jobs.
Heheh....some people would take offence to the term 'Stab City'...besides it's outdated...you just get shot now by AK47 fire usually In all seriousness it has a rep. but it has less crime then the capital 'Dublin' or most major cities 'London' for example. What grabs all the headlines is the 4-5 families that are in a drug feud and it is usually confined to 2 housing estates. Although there was a guy found dead last year outside my back garden wall having been shot a few time 
All drug related stuff and never had hassle myself, but people think you are tough (even when I was in college in Dublin 10 years ago) when you tell them where you are from
Anyhoo - thanks a mill for the advice. I am going to have a look now at my Mirage. I know there is enough clearance abouve the 120mm fan, not sure about below. You say 2cm. If I do, then I am getting this kit, and will stick with my Mirage and not bother with any other case. After all, this kit and 2 Noctua 800rpm fans (front intake, and side panel) should be enough. The less fans the better.
thanks again
In all seriousness it has a rep. but it has less crime then the capital 'Dublin' or most major cities 'London' for example. What grabs all the headlines is the 4-5 families that are in a drug feud and it is usually confined to 2 housing estates. Although there was a guy found dead last year outside my back garden wall having been shot a few time All drug related stuff and never had hassle myself, but people think you are tough (even when I was in college in Dublin 10 years ago) when you tell them where you are from Anyhoo - thanks a mill for the advice. I am going to have a look now at my Mirage. I know there is enough clearance abouve the 120mm fan, not sure about below. You say 2cm. If I do, then I am getting this kit, and will stick with my Mirage and not bother with any other case. After all, this kit and 2 Noctua 800rpm fans (front intake, and side panel) should be enough. The less fans the better.
thanks again
WJA96 said:
Flanno said:Heheh....some people would take offence to the term 'Stab City'...besides it's outdated...you just get shot now by AK47 fire usually
It was a guy from 'Stroke City' that told me that
And I know Irish people who take offence at being called Irish because '(s)he said it with an English attitude' ROFL. I'm Scottish, so I can get away with almost as much as Irish people can There is tons of room in the Eclipse/Mirage - that's where i used mine.
Cool...thanks
I lived in Edinburgh for 2 years when I worked out in Queensferry.
Lived right smack in the middle of the city..off Princes St. I think. Good times. Pints weren't much more then a quid back then
<edit> Would you say it's worth going all out and getting the top version then. Like the one you mentioned. Also, if it does not come with liquid installed - do I just set the thing up as per instructions, connect the special atx connector (pin 13/14 wired) so I can get my psu to start it up without activating my mobo, and then just pour the liquid in while it is on, or do I pour the liquid in before I turn it on ? I have no idea really and am nervous about pouring any liquid anywhere while the mains is connected
3 last things before I order...if I want to say change my video card later, can this be turned on it's side, or must I disconnect everthing. 2nd -you mentioned there is enough clearance so it does not hit the memory modules. I am using Cellshock which is slightly taller then your average stick. Do you reckon there will be issues ? And finally (sorry about this), it comes with a pci bracket/card thingy (called a powerpack) . Acoording to the review of the basic model guru3d did this card plugs into the pump and is powered by a molex from your psu or their is a socket at the back of the card for 12v use outside the case. So I take it the external connector is for testing. Or am I wrong and you can power it from the mains.
thanks
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I lived in Edinburgh for 2 years when I worked out in Queensferry.
Lived right smack in the middle of the city..off Princes St. I think. Good times. Pints weren't much more then a quid back then
<edit> Would you say it's worth going all out and getting the top version then. Like the one you mentioned. Also, if it does not come with liquid installed - do I just set the thing up as per instructions, connect the special atx connector (pin 13/14 wired) so I can get my psu to start it up without activating my mobo, and then just pour the liquid in while it is on, or do I pour the liquid in before I turn it on ? I have no idea really and am nervous about pouring any liquid anywhere while the mains is connected
3 last things before I order...if I want to say change my video card later, can this be turned on it's side, or must I disconnect everthing. 2nd -you mentioned there is enough clearance so it does not hit the memory modules. I am using Cellshock which is slightly taller then your average stick. Do you reckon there will be issues ? And finally (sorry about this), it comes with a pci bracket/card thingy (called a powerpack) . Acoording to the review of the basic model guru3d did this card plugs into the pump and is powered by a molex from your psu or their is a socket at the back of the card for 12v use outside the case. So I take it the external connector is for testing. Or am I wrong and you can power it from the mains.
thanks
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WJA96 said:It was a guy from 'Stroke City' that told me that
There is tons of room in the Eclipse/Mirage - that's where i used mine.
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Flanno said:Cool...thanks
I lived in Edinburgh for 2 years when I worked out in Queensferry.
Lived right smack in the middle of the city..off Princes St. I think. Good times. Pints weren't much more then a quid back then
Hmmm - There's beggar all in Queensferry unless you worked for Digital, HP or Distillers?
Yep..HP.
Got the train directly to work every day, and if I missed it on the way home, there was a bus that pulled up near my door. Public transport was great. Zilch in Limerick. Posted some questions below. Sorry for dragging this out. Total noob to water cooling and don't want to screw things up.
Got the train directly to work every day, and if I missed it on the way home, there was a bus that pulled up near my door. Public transport was great. Zilch in Limerick. Posted some questions below. Sorry for dragging this out. Total noob to water cooling and don't want to screw things up.
Flanno said:
There are 4 versions;
1. The basic one - works well, extremely quiet
2. The 700 Series quiet one - This is absolutely silent
3. The Laing one - very high performance pump, the pump housing is glued together so don't drop it from 4 feet as it will crack.
4. The UV one that glows in the dark. Pointless IMHO.
The Laing one has the best cooling. If you can afford it, then get it.
Flanno said:
Yes. If you have a spare PSU kicking about then I wouldn't even put it in the case while filling it up.
Flanno said:
No, you can turn it on it's side no problem.
Flanno said:
No.
Flanno said:
You can power it from the mains if you want to, but I can see why you would want to. The power pack has a neat little additional feature that after you turn the PC off it runs the pump for a further 10 minutes so the CPU cools down nice and slowly - an air cooled CPU can still dump heat into the CPU heat sink, but the water block is quite small so they do this to keep it all running just so. Very clever.
Thanks for the replies mate.
How quiet is the Laing One compared to options 1 and 2. I imagine the pump noise will be noticeable ? I want to cool that QX6700 but I don't want to make my system any noisier..right now using a Tuniq on about 1400rpm and quiet Noctua fans. Maybe the 700 series then. However as these systems reply on using the air inside the case to cool the radiator, won't I really have to go for the Laing as I am running 2 G80's as well and they put out enough heat already.
I have a spare psu knocking about..so I can fill it up outside the case no hassle. In fact I would be planning on removing the mobo tray alogether. And have the psu sitting beside it. Maybe test that it works before I even attach the water block to the cpu. Just turn on the pump using the special atx connector that comes with it to check everything is working. But can't I fill it up before turning the power on then ? Or does the power need to be on while filling ? Sorry for the dumbass question.
How quiet is the Laing One compared to options 1 and 2. I imagine the pump noise will be noticeable ? I want to cool that QX6700 but I don't want to make my system any noisier..right now using a Tuniq on about 1400rpm and quiet Noctua fans. Maybe the 700 series then. However as these systems reply on using the air inside the case to cool the radiator, won't I really have to go for the Laing as I am running 2 G80's as well and they put out enough heat already.
I have a spare psu knocking about..so I can fill it up outside the case no hassle. In fact I would be planning on removing the mobo tray alogether. And have the psu sitting beside it. Maybe test that it works before I even attach the water block to the cpu. Just turn on the pump using the special atx connector that comes with it to check everything is working. But can't I fill it up before turning the power on then ? Or does the power need to be on while filling ? Sorry for the dumbass question.
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Flanno said:
Not really. The pump is a fraction quieter, but the loudest thing is the fan. The Leise 700 uses a slower turning fan as well as a smaller pump. You won't hear it over the HDD, optical drives, graphics card coolers etc.
Flanno said:
Any of them will do you just fine. They all have shed-loads of capacity.
Flanno said:
I would fill the glass reservoir with the power turned off then turn on the pump and top up the reservoir to the mark with the pump running. Then let it run 10-15 minutes with the cap off to work all the air out and do any final topping up before screwing the lid on tight. Treat it like a dog - show no fear!
Great stuff. Good advice there.
The fan on the Laing Pro AGB edition is being advertised by the manufacturers as an Alpahcool 19db job. I can get it for 225 euro. (the whole thing, not the fan The 700 series is going for 185 euro..nothing mentioned about fan by manufacturer. What you reckon, the Lain worth an extra 40 euro (about 26 quid). About to order..finger on the submit button.
<edit> Just thought of something...the heatsink on that 680i sits pretty tall. Damn..I wonder would the water cooling gubbins have enough clearance seeing as it's 120mm wide. Not sure how high up it sits.
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5428/nbfan2ai4.jpg
I just read an interesting review of what looked like the basic Cool Answer over on Bit-Tech. Can't post link over competitor ads. Anyway, they rated the arctic freezer 7 Pro quieter and cooler !! They also said it was extremely difficult to attach the radiator to the case with the supplied mounting screws.
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The fan on the Laing Pro AGB edition is being advertised by the manufacturers as an Alpahcool 19db job. I can get it for 225 euro. (the whole thing, not the fan
The 700 series is going for 185 euro..nothing mentioned about fan by manufacturer. What you reckon, the Lain worth an extra 40 euro (about 26 quid). About to order..finger on the submit button.<edit> Just thought of something...the heatsink on that 680i sits pretty tall. Damn..I wonder would the water cooling gubbins have enough clearance seeing as it's 120mm wide. Not sure how high up it sits.
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5428/nbfan2ai4.jpg
I just read an interesting review of what looked like the basic Cool Answer over on Bit-Tech. Can't post link over competitor ads. Anyway, they rated the arctic freezer 7 Pro quieter and cooler !! They also said it was extremely difficult to attach the radiator to the case with the supplied mounting screws.
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OK - well I can't explain the results in that test. They are also fairly inconsistent in that the same make and model of pump is said to be almost silent when used in the passive kit but loud when used in the Coolanswer kit. If you look at the test of the basic kit (search on Alphacool on the same site) which is basically the same components without the mounting frame and they rate it very highly.
The bit about screwing the fan to the case is also a bit wierd as the hex-bolts supplied aren't long enough to go through the radiator and the holes are very definitely threaded to take those bolts. I don't know what screws they were using, but they must have been enormous.
If you have any doubts then obviously don't buy it.
As regards your question about the Leise 700 - I would buy the Laing if I had the option.
The bit about screwing the fan to the case is also a bit wierd as the hex-bolts supplied aren't long enough to go through the radiator and the holes are very definitely threaded to take those bolts. I don't know what screws they were using, but they must have been enormous.
If you have any doubts then obviously don't buy it.
As regards your question about the Leise 700 - I would buy the Laing if I had the option.