NEST thermostats

Kemik said:
Except I imagine it drains your battery something rotten.

Neither of them work with my zoned system at the minute so I'm sat here waiting.
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I've got an iPhone 5 and I've noticed no noticable battery drain since getting Tado installed....it's as crap as the iPhone has always been :D
 
wonder_lander said:
Tado would have detected you coming home, known how long it takes to bring your house back up to temperature and done it's thing without you having had to do anything!
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Hmm, I wonder if with the Nest apis it would be possible to write an iOS/Android app that performed this functionality
 
The main reason I didn't go for the Nest and went with the tado was simply the location based app which means my Mrs who has no interest in this technology doesn't have to worry about messing with the thermostat, the tado has zero input and works great for us.

Also, I'm inclined to sit in my man room for hours at a time and never would I be anywhere near my thermostat so the nest would go to auto away mode, so would be totally rubbish in that respect.
 
Pabl0 said:
The main reason I didn't go for the Nest and went with the tado was simply the location based app which means my Mrs who has no interest in this technology doesn't have to worry about messing with the thermostat, the tado has zero input and works great for us.

Also, I'm inclined to sit in my man room for hours at a time and never would I be anywhere near my thermostat so the nest would go to auto away mode, so would be totally rubbish in that respect.
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It's my understanding that you can just set a schedule on the NEST and it will just work like the Tado. Likewise you don't need the app or anything to change the temp, you just walk up to it and twist it to the desired temp
 
cokecan said:
It's my understanding that you can just set a schedule on the NEST and it will just work like the Tado. Likewise you don't need the app or anything to change the temp, you just walk up to it and twist it to the desired temp
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The problem with that (again for me) is my thermostat is wired into the hallway wall and although I'm in the trade and could move the wiring to a more suitable postition the tado means i don't have to. It has a thermostat on the wall and a separate solar powered stat that goes in the bedroom and means the house is warmed just right and not overheated because the hallway is massive and around 5degrees colder then other rooms.

I like the Nest and think it's really great looking, Just it seems to me the tado in practise (young couple with no kids) works much better.
 
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Schedules don't work for me as I work Mon - Thu in the office and Friday from home. My wife then has our 2 children and so pretty much comes and goes as she pleases.

Surely an app that detects you've left the building is the way to go from a savings perspective as well?
 
Pabl0 said:
The problem with that (again for me) is my thermostat is wired into the hallway wall and although I'm in the trade and could move the wiring to a more suitable postition the tado means i don't have to.
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Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but your setup is not atypical of NEST installations so I'm not sure why your arrangement is a problem for a NEST installation.

The thermostat you have wired in the hallway is simply replaced by the NEST unit, which then talks wirelessly to the heatlink, which is situated next to your boiler.
 
Participant said:
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but your setup is not atypical of NEST installations so I'm not sure why your arrangement is a problem for a NEST installation.

The thermostat you have wired in the hallway is simply replaced by the NEST unit, which then talks wirelessly to the heatlink, which is situated next to your boiler.
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I know it's not a unusual setup, in fact its probably one of the more common but having the thermostat in the hallway is not convenient or economical with the layout of my house. Three stories and two staircases make up a lot of area that is often colder then much of the house.

Also I like that I don't have to turn up and down a thermostat and have an auto away feature that doesn't guese you've left.

That's why I think nest works better for everyday life, it knows when you come and go so no guess work involved. No schedules are needed apart from your average sleep and wake up time and the temperature sensor can be placed anywhere as it's solar powered.

In my mind having a smart thermostat means I don't need schedules, I just was the house at a set temperature when I'm in and off when I'm not..

I think the tado makes more sense unless you live with people who don't have a smart phone and/or don't understand the tech.
 
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Pabl0 said:
That's why I think nest works better for everyday life, it knows when you come and go so no guess work involved. No schedules are needed apart from your average sleep and wake up time and the temperature sensor can be placed anywhere as it's solar powered.
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I think you mean Tado here!

I'm really excited about what the next generation of these smart thermostats will be able to do!
 
If Tado was cheaper I'd be interested in that but not paying £200 for a thermostat.

Already got a basic wireless BOSS thermostat that came with the boiler pack which I can take with me anywhere around the house. Other than that I just turn the heating on and off when I want, I don't really need some smart box turning it on when I'm half a mile away. :rolleyes:
 
I'm running Tado on the rental model, £4.99 per month as I felt that's the best way to keep up with advances as they change.

I've just got back on to Tado about their new thermostat that displays the temperature and it has controls to put the heating up and down. The rental model isn't tied in for a fixed time so I have ultimate flexibility and the cost of the rental is coming from the energy savings.

Thanks for the roll eyes by the way, whilst you may not want the heating coming on when you're half a mile away my wife with our baby is very much looking to return home to a warm house. (btw you can set Tado to not bring the heating back on until you are actually home if that's your preference....there is a setting to switch between comfort and energy efficiency settings.)
 
wonder_lander said:
Schedules don't work for me as I work Mon - Thu in the office and Friday from home. My wife then has our 2 children and so pretty much comes and goes as she pleases.

Surely an app that detects you've left the building is the way to go from a savings perspective as well?
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My phone and my wife's are setup to toggle the nest to away mode when certain distances away from home. thanks to tasker and the nest plugin.
 
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wonder_lander said:
I'm running Tado on the rental model, £4.99 per month as I felt that's the best way to keep up with advances as they change.

I've just got back on to Tado about their new thermostat that displays the temperature and it has controls to put the heating up and down. The rental model isn't tied in for a fixed time so I have ultimate flexibility and the cost of the rental is coming from the energy savings.

Thanks for the roll eyes by the way, whilst you may not want the heating coming on when you're half a mile away my wife with our baby is very much looking to return home to a warm house. (btw you can set Tado to not bring the heating back on until you are actually home if that's your preference....there is a setting to switch between comfort and energy efficiency settings.)
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I was rolling my eyes because I don't even use the timing programmes on my thermostat e.g to turn heating on half an our before I'm due back from work etc.
 
Ordering the new Tado V2 along with the extension kit his week on the rental. The Nest and new Honeywell controller are pointless as they only to CH and not Hot Water.

We currently have a 3 timed period controller above he boiler in the garage. That means going through hallway to kitchen to rear sunroom to cold garage just to play around with the heating.

With the Tado I can DIY in the extension box, replacing the existing Siemens controller, then just plonk the wireless thermostat on the wall and let the 2 communicate wirelessly. It's going to save us both a lot of time walking back and forth to the silly old controller to turn on/off or adjust the settings, plus it'll be great to save funds and have the house warmed up depending on our varied work/social schedules.
 
Why would you want to control your hot water? Just keep it on all the time. The hot water system will only start when the hot water tank is reduced to a certain level.
 
Not clued up enough on heating systems unfortunately.

We have an Oil condensing boiler in the garage and a vented tank in the upper bedroom cupboard (has a thermostatic valve on it and I assume an immersion heater), then the water tank in the loft. A system boiler system from what I can fathom.

After taking a look at the Siemens control panel last night, it's only wired internally for the Hot Water, without any cable going into the Central Heating connections. This tallies up with the fact the boiler only comes on when both are switched on on the control panel. Also got individual fused wall switches for the motorised valve, pump and boiler on the wall next to the controller. Need to look into how this is all wired up to the boiler later on, but I'm assuming you don't and can't split hot water and central heating, on is just heating water for both radiators and heating the water in the water tank? Am I right?

Need to have a read up on how our system works, although ideally next year we will probably look into a non-vented water cylinder to allow us to open out the main bedroom upstairs (essentially the cupboard is in the middle of the room along with the chimney breast........)
 
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