Agreed I don’t want a 60hz non G-Sync panel that I can’t leave on displaying static images. Just not interested.
New 144hz 4k monitor spotted, INSANE PRICES!!!
Agreed I don’t want a 60hz non G-Sync panel that I can’t leave on displaying static images. Just not interested.
This "review" sets a few things straight: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/8qzklw/review_of_acer_predator_x27/
Well actually, you can compare 60hz 4k and 144hz 4k......
You can compare any panel type, some people want the best IQ there is, some want the most responsive panel there, some want the sharpest panel there is and so on.
Only different planets if your trying to justify why someone would spend thousands on a tiny PC monitor when the visual difference is just FPS & inferior HDR modes thanks to Win 10 Playready 3.0 DRM for HDR (locked to Intel GPU devices only).
Visually 99.9% of gamers were shown a blind test 4K 60 Hz with games & UHD movies vs 144 (which will have to run @ 60 for UHD content) I doubt you would see any major difference except your bank balance!
"Visual difference is just FPS"... That's not a trivial statement!
Source/evidence? I've heard many more people say 60 vs 144 Hz is a huge difference when gaming than not.
Source/evidence? I've heard many more people say 60 vs 144 Hz is a huge difference when gaming than not.
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lol @ 60 Hz vs 144 Hz doesn't matter. I have the best gaming monitor on the planet (X27) and the best TV on the planet (C8 OLED), I'm well versed in image quality versus refresh rate. And HDR on Win 10 works great for both of them. The relatively inexpensive costs of these items doesn't sway my objectivity.
Not to mention a 55” OLED tv is of no use as a desktop gaming monitor for PC usage or any other day to day non gaming uses. That’s what these new monitors are aimed at. They’re not aimed at TV viewing, movies or even console gaming so it’s silly to compare them to large TVs
Aye I don't get why people keep saying buy an OLED instead of this monitor or any other, even for gaming. The image on my C7 looks better but that is the only advantage it has.
There is. Even turning off the overclock on my X34 going from 100hz to 60hz I notice a big difference.
It's good to see some more positive reviews to balance things out but it still seems as though it is a lottery.
As someone who has tried various monitors out and now uses an OLED TV for gaming, I completely disagree.
That is the first mistake everyone always makes, is assuming that you can use it as a "desktop" monitor, get past that, otherwise you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
I still keep a monitor for "desktop" usage i.e. browsing etc. Anything gaming, media related goes on the TV. Essentially my setup is like a dual display setup, everything flows and works flawlessly between the 2.
For my needs/wants, monitors just don't come close to a 55" OLED display, once you see the IQ of OLED (especially with HDR on top of it), it makes every monitor look horrible, especially on dark scenes. I even hate just doing desktop related things on LCD monitors now....
Also, motion clarity is noticeably better on my OLED TV, especially when I put it into 120HZ mode.
Yes it doesn't have sync tech. nor as responsive as these "gaming" monitors but everything else about it imo is leagues ahead.
Input lag, I'm not that sensitive to but when the TV is in 120HZ mode (and all the TV processing features are disabled), it feels just as responsive as any 120+HZ monitors, at least to me, maybe to the CS:S pros, it would be awful but I'm just a casual gamer now.
You're paying £1300 for a 55" 4k HDR OLED panel
You're paying £2200 for a 27" FALD LCD panel
Yes I know the monitor has gsync + 144HZ @ 4k but the first 2 main points are the main factors that stand out when it comes to pricing imo. There is a lot of gouging going on with monitor prices nowadays.
And personally being an IQ obsessed guy, less money for a superior IQ and vastly larger display is the obvious path.
Oh and most importantly, compare the warranties......
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And as someone here who has tried a multitude of gaming monitors and a B7 OLED TV then I'd have to disagree with you. Everyone is different of course but no way are TV's anywhere *near* as smooth as a high hz gaming monitor with Gsync/proper Freesync. YMMV of course and everyone is different, but I've tried and keep coming back to a high hz monitor as you just can't beat it for gaming (tbf 120hz 1080p was a *lot* better, and the high hz 4k ones with VRR should be quite stunning).
I agree that the pricing is way out but I think most people using a PC need a screen that fits in with a PC setup. I could get a 55" OLED and incorporate it into my PC setup but it would be problematic, I couldn't leave it on all day like all of my other PC screens, and in the end I'd prefer using my ultrawide for gaming because G-Sync + high hz wins out for me.
Other than the sync or hz thing though, it's just the practicality of it. We want a PC monitor that fits in with our PC setup and I would guess that so do the majority of PC users.
All personal preference though. I just don't get recommending a 55" TV to fit into our PC setups over a smaller monitor with more relevant PC technologies.
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Tbh if I can actually afford one I might try out one of the big ass 65" Gsync displays coming, they will be something special! And I'm sure one of them is going to use an AG coating, unsure which one it was though.
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I downgraded my TV from 50" to 27". You'll not convince me to put a 55" monstrosity on my desk.
Still waiting for a half decent 24" or below 4k display so I can run it at 200% scaling.
Still waiting for a half decent 24" or below 4k display so I can run it at 200% scaling.
To be fair, gaming habits will have a big influence on the OLED TV vs gaming monitor debate. If you play Witcher 3 most of the time, then the 55" TV will probably be best, but it you play Overwatch then you want a smaller monitor (24-32") and higher refresh rate.
My Dell is great, though it doesn't have GSync or Freesync.
Yup it won't be as smooth as a free/g sync display but I find due to the faster pixel response time of oled, it feels/looks smoother than non sync LCD monitors.
Motion clarity just looks so much better on oled than LCD, at least to my eyes.
Yup as I said, I do not and never will recommend an oled TV or any large 40+" display for that matter to 'replace' a 'desktop' monitor, only ever to be used along side a monitor.
My TV only ever goes on when I want to game, watch media content or just have it on a screen saver with some lovely wallpapers.
Again, don't go in expecting to use a 50/55" TV as a 'desktop' monitor......
Yup it comes down to the games you play, the only game I play on my monitor now is bf 1 and only because it is better for sitting arrangement with regards to m+k. Tried it on my TV a few times though and oddly I found it a lot easier to do better on, probably due to the better iq i.e. enemies standing out better, much larger screen so able to see things more easily as well as 120hz over a 60hz monitor.
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WTF are everyone talking about here.
I tell You a secret...
You can have 55 Inch oled AND 27 Inch monitor connected ATH THE SAME TIME
o ye and those 2000 bucks monitors are epic
@Nexus18 You just posted same thing.
For asking price of x27 you can have TV + a good monitor !!!
I tell You a secret...
You can have 55 Inch oled AND 27 Inch monitor connected ATH THE SAME TIME
o ye and those 2000 bucks monitors are epic
@Nexus18 You just posted same thing.
For asking price of x27 you can have TV + a good monitor !!!
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Just had a look acer predator 1440p 144hz gsync around 500 quid 55 inch LG oled 1400. So lets make it 2000 pounds. For Two displays that covers ALL NEEDS you got good monitor for FPS fast online shooters and MMO's. Tv for action games like Witcher Assasins Creed ect Racing games Forza Project cars AND when done with gaming put an UHD 4K BR and watch in fantastic quality with stunning black level !!!!
That Acer x27 ONLY 2100 on preorder WTF
That Acer x27 ONLY 2100 on preorder WTF
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I thought the same thing hence me trying it, but overall I don't think it helped much at all (comparing it to a 28ms Philips 4k TV I'd also tried).
If it was that easy we would all do it. The point is many PC gamers don’t want to play at 60hz without sync technology on any game. MMO’s, Witcher 3, whatever. It needs to be high Hz+ Sync. Just a preference.