yes, because a working configuration now will suddenly stop working as soon as 'afterwards' happen.
lol you crack me up
New £3k build - Critique request
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lol you crack me up
I do like the idea of a triple fan GTX 1080ti for excellent cooling but that Palit Jetstream card at £829 is certainly appealing and saving some money. Nice spotting lee32uk.
I like the look of that bequiet silentloop 360 CPU cooler as well. Triple fan setup and superior cooling to the corsair is well worth considering. Thanks orbitalwalsh.
That LG 32" monitor though... obviously better quality than the Acer I was looking at but at £750...ouchy. Not sure if I can manage pushing my monitor budget that high atm. Any other ideas for a 32" 2560x1440? It's a confusing market out there! Stats don't tell you everything, so it's a tough choice.
There are some good points for me to consider here. I did a PSU check and yes I could get a 650W instead of a 750w based on my components, so thanks for pointing that out as well.
My priority is getting the right CPU/Mobo/Gfx/Ram combination along with an excellent AIO cooler. Everything else is lower on the priority list. Don't worry about storage/HDs/SSDs as that isn't a major concern for me. I also have other SSDs and HDs I could possibly use from my current PC.
I like the look of that bequiet silentloop 360 CPU cooler as well. Triple fan setup and superior cooling to the corsair is well worth considering. Thanks orbitalwalsh.
That LG 32" monitor though... obviously better quality than the Acer I was looking at but at £750...ouchy. Not sure if I can manage pushing my monitor budget that high atm. Any other ideas for a 32" 2560x1440? It's a confusing market out there! Stats don't tell you everything, so it's a tough choice.
There are some good points for me to consider here. I did a PSU check and yes I could get a 650W instead of a 750w based on my components, so thanks for pointing that out as well.
My priority is getting the right CPU/Mobo/Gfx/Ram combination along with an excellent AIO cooler. Everything else is lower on the priority list. Don't worry about storage/HDs/SSDs as that isn't a major concern for me. I also have other SSDs and HDs I could possibly use from my current PC.
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Palit Jetstream and the Aorus Re both triple slot coolers. The Jet is dual fan but the heatsink is much thicker to offset this, whilst Aorus is the opposite . Each card has pros and cons... But in this case.. if I card can do the job without sounding like a jet engine and heating (blower MSI card - gigabyte uses thermal camber and heatpipes in their design which massive hikes it's prices up for blower style ) whilst being cheaper... You can't ignore it !
Brand loyalty accounts for 60% of sales for vendors , but with prices current... That's out the window !
The monitor i quoted had g- sync , handy when card quite handle constant frames at ultra or starts to show its age
Brand loyalty accounts for 60% of sales for vendors , but with prices current... That's out the window !
The monitor i quoted had g- sync , handy when card quite handle constant frames at ultra or starts to show its age
The MSI card can take a water cooler. And the card will overclock like a beast while being virtually silent.
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Yeah, they have a Hybrid for that provided by Corsair (Asetek) or a full blown waterblock card provided by EKWB....
And for £20 more you get the armour
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti Aero OC 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £839.99
- 1 x MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti Armor OC 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £859.99
Total: £1,710.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)
Remember having massive heated debate with MSI sales over their Armour not being released in UK for Nvidia last gen " it will never sell or in high enough volume "... Maybe should dig out emails and be smug
I doubt I'll watercool my GTX 1080 ti, which is why I've been looking at the cards that have a decent cooler. I just watched a few vids of the MSI 1080 ti gaming x trio which rate it very high due to the cool running and almost silent operation. I'd be willing to pay that little extra, and admittedly my current 970 is a MSI twin frozr which I also rate very highly so good old brand loyalty may come into play.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-347-ms.html
My basket at Overclockers UK:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-347-ms.html
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £909.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
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It is indeed a big card. Dual 100mm and 92mm I can can remember correctly . 3 slot like Aorus and Strix , but doesn't stack fans ontop like the Aorus nor use smaller fans like the Strix
Funny enough MSI have the Duke range, which a shame its its release UK side. Triple fan design but not as extreme as above
Funny enough MSI have the Duke range, which a shame its its release UK side. Triple fan design but not as extreme as above
Just some observations here...
1. The 850 PSU is very BIG. You could save money and get a 650W. I think at the moment the 750W is particularly good value and is a lot more than you need.
2. The RAM is very conservative. If you shop around you should be able to get C15 for literally a few pounds more.
3. You would do better getting a 6TB Black rather than a Red.
4. Personally I would also get a smaller SSD. You can save a lot buying a 250GB SSD and by placing all your games on the secondary drive.
5. That motherboard only has one M.2 socket and it's in a rotten position ~ right above the graphics card. Since you are going to buy a powerful graphics card, also buy an adapter for the SSD to position it below, in the free PCIe graphics slot. I recently carried out my own experiments with that and found that even with the graphics card at 50 degrees C it heated up an SSD placed above it by 20 degrees C. With a 1080ti it's going to be a LOT worse. The SSD is sort of in a dead spot and it's much better to get it out of there and below the graphics card.
6. Budget another £40 to replace the h115i fans. They are horrible.
7. There is a new Z370-UD3H that is currently being released with beefed up VRM ~ worth considering ESPECIALLY since it has a M.2 slot low down on the board.
1. The 850 PSU is very BIG. You could save money and get a 650W. I think at the moment the 750W is particularly good value and is a lot more than you need.
2. The RAM is very conservative. If you shop around you should be able to get C15 for literally a few pounds more.
3. You would do better getting a 6TB Black rather than a Red.
4. Personally I would also get a smaller SSD. You can save a lot buying a 250GB SSD and by placing all your games on the secondary drive.
5. That motherboard only has one M.2 socket and it's in a rotten position ~ right above the graphics card. Since you are going to buy a powerful graphics card, also buy an adapter for the SSD to position it below, in the free PCIe graphics slot. I recently carried out my own experiments with that and found that even with the graphics card at 50 degrees C it heated up an SSD placed above it by 20 degrees C. With a 1080ti it's going to be a LOT worse. The SSD is sort of in a dead spot and it's much better to get it out of there and below the graphics card.
6. Budget another £40 to replace the h115i fans. They are horrible.
7. There is a new Z370-UD3H that is currently being released with beefed up VRM ~ worth considering ESPECIALLY since it has a M.2 slot low down on the board.
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1. Yup, I am thinking about a 750w now
2. No noticeable difference between C15/C16 other than in snythetic benchmarks, but if price is similar yup I agree.
3. I may even get cheaper HDs for data storage, I still have 2 x 512gb ssds in my current pc I may transfer over for games so storage isn't gonna be a big issue
4. My current boot drive is 250gb and with windows and all the apps/software i use installed on it, it is right on the cusp of 250GB full at the mo. So was thinking of playing it safe and just getting one a little bigger for some breathing room.
5. That's a great point Pocah, I will look into that. I don't like things running hot!
6. Already thinking about the bequiet 360 aio based on advice earlier in thread.
7. Nice, will keep my eyes peeled.
Great advice Pocah, thanks.
2. No noticeable difference between C15/C16 other than in snythetic benchmarks, but if price is similar yup I agree.
3. I may even get cheaper HDs for data storage, I still have 2 x 512gb ssds in my current pc I may transfer over for games so storage isn't gonna be a big issue
4. My current boot drive is 250gb and with windows and all the apps/software i use installed on it, it is right on the cusp of 250GB full at the mo. So was thinking of playing it safe and just getting one a little bigger for some breathing room.
5. That's a great point Pocah, I will look into that. I don't like things running hot!
6. Already thinking about the bequiet 360 aio based on advice earlier in thread.
7. Nice, will keep my eyes peeled.
Great advice Pocah, thanks.
I may even get cheaper HDs for data storage, I still have 2 x 512gb ssds in my current pc I may transfer over for games so storage isn't gonna be a big issue
4. My current boot drive is 250gb and with windows and all the apps/software i use installed on it, it is right on the cusp of 250GB full at the mo. So was thinking of playing it safe and just getting one a little bigger for some breathing room.
You need the M.2 drive for the games:
The 960 Pro and 960 Evo are even faster! Be aware and make the smart decision.
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2 extra seconds for a game ... But double the cost for storage space . I like to quote NVMe when I can and mainly as OS drive when on sale , but that's now getting rarer!
And in file copying and Windows 10 boot up, it is leaps and bounds ahead, saving so much wasted time, otherwise.
PCI-E M.2 SSD are the only way to go forward - even for systems on a budget
And in file copying and Windows 10 boot up, it is leaps and bounds ahead, saving so much wasted time, otherwise.
PCI-E M.2 SSD are the only way to go forward - even for systems on a budget
Those videos above show that an NVMe SSD doesn't load games any quicker, so why would it load Windows quicker ? If you are going to make claims then at least back it up with proof.
I don't know why it loads Windows 10 much faster. Maybe because the transfers with the storage while booting are much more intense.
While in game loading, the stress is on the CPU and memory, hence almost identical results.
I've already posted a video above:
I don't know why it loads Windows 10 much faster. Maybe because the transfers with the storage while booting are much more intense.
While in game loading, the stress is on the CPU and memory, hence almost identical results.
I've already posted a video above:
It loads Windows about 4 seconds faster. The only thing it did considerably quicker was transferring a large amount of files. So like I said, if the op is mainly gaming then NVMe isn't worth the extra outlay.
The perfect configuration in this case with 3k pounds budget is:
AMD Ryzen 1950X 16-core/32-thread;
32 GB DDR4 3600 memory because there are applications right now that eat over 16GB of memory pretty easily;
512 GB Samsung 960 PRO M.2 drive;
Graphics card of choice;
4K monitor of choice.
This build will last and will be the most responsive thing EVER!
AMD Ryzen 1950X 16-core/32-thread;
32 GB DDR4 3600 memory because there are applications right now that eat over 16GB of memory pretty easily;
512 GB Samsung 960 PRO M.2 drive;
Graphics card of choice;
4K monitor of choice.
This build will last and will be the most responsive thing EVER!
That would be a great way to waste £3K. Just stop with the stupid recommendations. No gaming pc needs a £900 16 core cpu.