You no have a kitchen table
My desk is just a kitchen worktop placed on wall brackets..(Sorry Room in the middle of being painted and new floor put down)
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New Alienware Q3 2020
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My desk is just a kitchen worktop placed on wall brackets..(Sorry Room in the middle of being painted and new floor put down)
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Calibrate it to srgb. job done
Calibrated mine finally. Its a pretty damn good colour accruacy. Much better than when it started.
ANd if i want to use the wide gamut colour saturated for games its just a simple job to switch between this icm and the one with the screen
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Does that then bodge up the HDR? Or did you save settings as a preset?
Presumably you used your own calibrator device?
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Having had my AW2721D for a few days now here are my impressions:
Bad: honestly nothing really bad.
There is a high pitched noise coming from the screen I think from the LED lights. Changing it to a different colour or switching them off seems to stop it. I will need to investigate it further.
I have the same patch of back light bleed just above the bottom left corner that all these monitors seem to have. Doesn't bother me though.
The local dimming zones are quite distracting on dark scenes when using HDR.
The good:
Zero dead pixels
The colors look great to me. Better than my old IPS monitor.
The stand is solid and looks fantastic. The backlighting looks pretty cool too. It is very adjustable has great cable managment.
240hz is pretty great but maybe not for the reasons you might initially think. Desktop use is where it really shines for me. Scrolling websites is noticably smoother to me and that is me coming from a 144hz screen. The text remains crisp and readable with no ghosting whilst scrolling. The only game I play that gets close to 240hz is Risk of Rain 2. When you pan the screen the image stays crisp and clear. It is a noticable improvement over 144hz.
HDR on brighter games looks pretty nice. Horizon Zero Dawn and Forza Horizon 4 look cool.
The box the monitor comes in is excellent in regards to packing.
The g-sync module fan is basically silent.
G-sync ultimate seems to work well with my AMD 6800 after initial teething troubles (see earlier in the thread)
The bezels are really thin on all 4 sides which looks cool.
For £559 I am very happy with my purchase.
Bad: honestly nothing really bad.
There is a high pitched noise coming from the screen I think from the LED lights. Changing it to a different colour or switching them off seems to stop it. I will need to investigate it further.
I have the same patch of back light bleed just above the bottom left corner that all these monitors seem to have. Doesn't bother me though.
The local dimming zones are quite distracting on dark scenes when using HDR.
The good:
Zero dead pixels
The colors look great to me. Better than my old IPS monitor.
The stand is solid and looks fantastic. The backlighting looks pretty cool too. It is very adjustable has great cable managment.
240hz is pretty great but maybe not for the reasons you might initially think. Desktop use is where it really shines for me. Scrolling websites is noticably smoother to me and that is me coming from a 144hz screen. The text remains crisp and readable with no ghosting whilst scrolling. The only game I play that gets close to 240hz is Risk of Rain 2. When you pan the screen the image stays crisp and clear. It is a noticable improvement over 144hz.
HDR on brighter games looks pretty nice. Horizon Zero Dawn and Forza Horizon 4 look cool.
The box the monitor comes in is excellent in regards to packing.
The g-sync module fan is basically silent.
G-sync ultimate seems to work well with my AMD 6800 after initial teething troubles (see earlier in the thread)
The bezels are really thin on all 4 sides which looks cool.
For £559 I am very happy with my purchase.
Use spyderx pro. Switch on hdr for wide gamut in windows (that overrides the icm anyway), switch off hdr for calibrated 100% srgb. Or you can calibrate both and then just swap the icm over. It is just a setting in windows afterall.
You could calibrate to wide gamut on hdr if you want to as well but i quite like the hdr over sarurated look so havent bothered for now.
But when using windows in sdr I have 99% perfect srgb for desktop and colour editing.
If you buy a spyderx, its only the software that changes between models so buy the cheapest and use DisplayCal which is free calibrating software and much better than the software you get with the spyderx anyway.
When you compare a 38" UW to something like a 48" OLED 
Visual TV Size Comparison : 38 inch 21x9 display vs 48 inch 16x9 display (displaywars.com)
Visual TV Size Comparison : 38 inch 21x9 display vs 48 inch 16x9 display (displaywars.com)
Ah! Sounds like this is a non-issue then. Thanks so much for the help / advice
Yeah that is mad. Imagine that on your desk.... compared to your ASUS! Do you think you could handle it? Would be amazing for gaming.... but for productivity / browsing I think the smaller monitors are probably more manageable!When you compare a 38" UW to something like a 48" OLED
Visual TV Size Comparison : 38 inch 21x9 display vs 48 inch 16x9 display (displaywars.com)
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I've been looking at the 48" OLED, and as much as it's roughly the same price for a 'better' display - it would be too big for me. Plus I also work from my monitor during the day, and I'm not sure the type of use would be too good for burn in etc.
From what I gather, burn in with these newer models is pretty much a non-issue if you take precautions, such as mixing up screensavers and backgrounds, have a ‘minimising / disappearing’ start menu, not running full brightness, not on all the time.... etc.
The real question is whether that vertical height is going to be uncomfortable. Keep in mind that unless you mount it the bottom of the screen is almost desk level - eww. Or, the top of the screen is going to be miles above your head.
Ah! Sounds like this is a non-issue then. Thanks so much for the help / advice
Yeah that is mad. Imagine that on your desk.... compared to your ASUS! Do you think you could handle it? Would be amazing for gaming.... but for productivity / browsing I think the smaller monitors are probably more manageable!
Yeah its a total none issue, It had me concerned as well since it could have simply been solved with a srgb setting on the monitor menu and i suppose you do need to buy a calibrator if you dont have one.
Always worth getting imo as it fixed and improved quite a few issues on the screen. I checked it before running and the some colours were off by delta of 5 (that was due to the wide gamut though) but the white point was way out and the contrast ratio was only around 800 and is now closer to 1000 after I calibrated it.
And yes was tempted by the 48" oled but just didnt have the space or the distance to sit back, 32" OLEDs will be coming by they are 2 or 3 years off yet.
This will do nicely until then
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I'm not convinced on that. I think the OLEDs will stay fairly large. Smaller screens will probably go down the QLED/QNED/MiniLED route
I am not convinced on that looking at the £5k prices of the first mini led 32" screens. They will have a long way to develop before they are affordable. Dont forget we have already had a 30" OLED monitor - Dell UP3017Q 4K OLED although it was flawed.
I believe LG has a 42" OLED out this year and I think Samsung or Sony are planning on doing a 40" one.
So yeah, maybe 2-3 years and we will have 32" OLED screens available.
Ah! Sounds like this is a non-issue then. Thanks so much for the help / advice
Unfortunately it's not that easy an he's giving you some misleading info. While I don't have this Dell monitor, I have another wide gamut-only monitor sitting next to a proper sRGB one, so I can compare the difference between the two. While a proper ICC profile will fix the oversaturated colors in color-aware software, it will do nothing for most games, some video players, or even your desktop wallpaper and icons, because windows explorer is not colour-aware. Check this link for the explanation what ICC profile does and what it does not. https://pcmonitors.info/articles/using-icc-profiles-in-windows/
As a side note, you don't need to do the calibration unless you really chase the most accurate colour for your particular monitor, which takes into account the variations in manufacturing. For normal usage, the generic profile provided by Dell in the drivers package for that model should be enough to handle wide gamut to sRGB conversion. But again, only for software that is using ICC profiles.
Whether it will be a problem for you or not, I don't know
You may even like the more saturated colors, or, without anything else to compare to, decide that the difference is negligible and get used to it quickly. But in case you won't like it, there's really no way to fix it properly for every software, and games especially. You may try to dial RGB components in your monitor OSD a bit, but the DCI-P3 to sRGB transformation is non-linear and you can't just correct it with a simple slider.
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Ah, thanks for the additional info. Sounds like it’s fixable for some things but not everything (and not games).Unfortunately it's not that easy an he's giving you some misleading info. While I don't have this Dell monitor, I have another wide gamut-only monitor sitting next to a proper sRGB one, so I can compare the difference between the two. While a proper ICC profile will fix the oversaturated colors in color-aware software, it will do nothing for most games, some video players, or even your desktop wallpaper and icons, because windows explorer is not colour-aware. Check this link for the explanation what ICC profile does and what it does not. https://pcmonitors.info/articles/using-icc-profiles-in-windows/
As a side note, you don't need to do the calibration unless you really chase the most accurate colour for your particular monitor, which takes into account the variations in manufacturing. For normal usage, the generic profile provided by Dell in the drivers package for that model should be enough to handle wide gamut to sRGB conversion. But again, only for software that is using ICC profiles.
Whether it will be a problem for you or not, I don't know
I suppose I’m making a mountain out of a molehill and in reality I may not notice the difference... will keep contemplating!
Yeah, that's what I'm also doing right now. Overall, it seems to be a better deal than the 38" from LG (warranty, gsync, availability, price too - market dependent), but the lack of sRGB mode is such a stupid omission. I mean other monitors with the same panel have it. Odyssey G9 has it. Even CX48 has it, and it's a HDR OLED TV, not a PC monitor that will be running sRGB content 95% of the time.
I haven't yet, sorry, been pre-occupied over xmas/new year. Hoping to give it a play over the next week or so, but seems @Greebo has had some success with calibrating the AW38.
Are these the settings you guys keep talking about (I don't really understand what these settings even do
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Unfortunately it's not that easy an he's giving you some misleading info. While I don't have this Dell monitor, I have another wide gamut-only monitor sitting next to a proper sRGB one, so I can compare the difference between the two. While a proper ICC profile will fix the oversaturated colors in color-aware software, it will do nothing for most games, some video players, or even your desktop wallpaper and icons, because windows explorer is not colour-aware. Check this link for the explanation what ICC profile does and what it does not. https://pcmonitors.info/articles/using-icc-profiles-in-windows/
As a side note, you don't need to do the calibration unless you really chase the most accurate colour for your particular monitor, which takes into account the variations in manufacturing. For normal usage, the generic profile provided by Dell in the drivers package for that model should be enough to handle wide gamut to sRGB conversion. But again, only for software that is using ICC profiles.
Whether it will be a problem for you or not, I don't know
I thought things had improved a lot since you wrote that with Windows 10 bringing out advanced colour support in version 1703 and they have improved on it in every version since?
I thought the only thing remaining not fixable was the desktop background as windows 10 always leaves that as direct so "it doesnt slow down windows performance"