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Fan mate, supposed to be quite audible so that's a no-no. But thanks.
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Fan mate, supposed to be quite audible so that's a no-no. But thanks.
The fan is very quiet in the Asus one (my PG35VQ is setup in my bedroom)
With that AOC one being so cheap if it was me I would take a chance at changing the fan in it
But still a grand. I personally wouldnt risk it!
I thought you had the LG 38" JF?
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I did briefly, kinda regret selling it now (thought it was too big but in hindsight prob not).
Indeed, I even did that before buying my last 2 screens. I have even done it with TVs before so see which size looks best.
Good for you! Never regret anything - it was the right decision at the time - just now things have changed and you have learnt something you didn't know before. That's the way I always look at it.
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Hi everyone!
I finally managed to try my new AW2721D and while it's amazing in the looks of the panel and the actual aesthetics, and the build quality...but... I know that almost everybody is experiencing backlight bleeding, which is fine, but I am not sure if this can be considered any close to decent. I didn't notice the backlight bleeding until I got distracted by it at the same corner in the pictures below. These compared to my current LG 27UK850, which has I guess the last IPS panel before Nano IPS came out (?):
https://imgur.com/a/qexJKJU
I took the pictures with fixed AE/AF, so they can be perfectly comparable. I also tried my best to match the exposure to what my naked eye sees.
Brightness on AW is 60%, on the LG is 70%
I finally managed to try my new AW2721D and while it's amazing in the looks of the panel and the actual aesthetics, and the build quality...but... I know that almost everybody is experiencing backlight bleeding, which is fine, but I am not sure if this can be considered any close to decent. I didn't notice the backlight bleeding until I got distracted by it at the same corner in the pictures below. These compared to my current LG 27UK850, which has I guess the last IPS panel before Nano IPS came out (?):
https://imgur.com/a/qexJKJU
I took the pictures with fixed AE/AF, so they can be perfectly comparable. I also tried my best to match the exposure to what my naked eye sees.
Brightness on AW is 60%, on the LG is 70%
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That looks to be IPS glow to
Me with v.minimal backlight bleed on the left bottom. I’d said you’d be trying a while to get anything better than that..(my own personal opinion). If you notice it in games or while working (and it’s more of a yellow glow than that bluish glow) then you’ve probably got bad backlight bleed and might be worth an RMA.
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In the picture with the desktop background, it tends to yellow in the area it gives me problem. It's only on that spot, doesn't do it on the rest of the monitor.
I am not even sure anymore, I know the glow appears when looked up close and from the side.
Here is a picture taken right in front of the edge, you can see the glow specifically on that spot, but it's fine on the rest.
https://imgur.com/Ryy23br
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Yeah that’s bleed, much clearer on that picture. Prob worth getting in touch with Dell and get an RMA.
Thanks, I don't regret it. I would rather try it out in person and make a proper decision. I'm not into Blue Peter type things, cutting out carboard trying to get the correct 1800 Curvature on it then seeing if I can see the COD WZ map ok on the left hand side
I'm quite happy to have used it for a month or so, know that my decision has been made based on using it in the flesh. So if I lose £200 on it when I sell it on I don't care as I know I have done all the testing I need to.
Looking at a piece of paper made out to be the same size would not have helped me reach this conclusion.
I have since purchased a G7 32" and what a great monitor it is! Although, with the aggressive curvature it really doesn't feel like 32", but that 240hz is just so nice, not sure I could replicate that using a cardboard cut out either. Again, you really need to see it to appreciate it.
So I just got round to playing with the SpyderX Pro and my AW2721D, can't say if it's changed much yet as need to do my usual activities (work, browsing, videos, gaming) to really test it. Only noticeable difference right now is brightness is down from the 85% I had it set to.
I tried intially using the Datacolor software, which during the calibration process asked me to decrease the brightness using the OSD to 37% from factory setting (in a dark'ish room, only large lamp on in the corner and TV otherside of the room). I then tried calibrating with DisplayCal and it didn't request me to change any OSD settings, just applied an icc colour profile so Brightness is back to factory setting (50%).
I would've thought both pieces of software would have me tweak with the OSD settings more, but I am a novice at this so perhaps not if it is all software based.
Did you have a similar experience @Greebo ?
I tried intially using the Datacolor software, which during the calibration process asked me to decrease the brightness using the OSD to 37% from factory setting (in a dark'ish room, only large lamp on in the corner and TV otherside of the room). I then tried calibrating with DisplayCal and it didn't request me to change any OSD settings, just applied an icc colour profile so Brightness is back to factory setting (50%).
I would've thought both pieces of software would have me tweak with the OSD settings more, but I am a novice at this so perhaps not if it is all software based.
Did you have a similar experience @Greebo ?
Datacolor software is horrible and only got me to tweak contrast/brightness I think, none of the colours,. Displaycal is much better and got me to adjust my screen RGB settings as well.
Plus i checked both profiles that they created and the Datacolor one wasnt very good at all, in fact although it changed things, it wasnt any better than when the monitor came.
Displaycal nailed almost everything. My colour delta is tiny, my screen is 6500k almost dead on and my gamma is 2.2
From memory displaycal made me drop my G and B to 96% and my R to 99%
To be fair, the calibrated software can change all of the settings without you having to change anything in the OSD as obviously not all screens have the same OSD adjustments but better to use the OSD to adjust what you can as clearly they are quite often way off and just doing that alone makes a big difference to how your display looks.
Displaycal from memory lets you rung different calibrations,. There is a short one (quick and easy) and a much much longer one and they come up with much difference profiles. I think the longer one can take up to 30 minutes, Thats the one I ran and it got me to change settings in the OSD
Yeah once you have a calibrated monitor you never want to go back
Does anyone have any recommendations for a monitor arm (desk mount/clamp) for the AW3821DW ? I have seen the Ergotron LX (tall pole) recommended, not sure if this would work ok or if there are better options.
I would like to get it flush with the back of the desk if possible ?
Even though my desk is quite deep approx 800mm, Im losing around 8-9 inches with the included stand.
Many Thanks
I would like to get it flush with the back of the desk if possible ?
Even though my desk is quite deep approx 800mm, Im losing around 8-9 inches with the included stand.
Many Thanks
people suggested the ergotron but it’s a bit rich for my blood. I got the invision mx450 and it works great, checked with them beforehand and they confirmed it would be fine, even sent me spacers directly but didn’t need them.
forgive the cables you can see underneath the monitor I’m waiting on some longer ones from amazon now to allow me to feed them through properly, didn’t think that through
Hey guys, new to the forums here but this is one of the only good helpful threads I could find about these new monitors. I just bought the AW2721D and am still trying to ultimately decide if I'm going to keep it or wait for some of the new releases later this year.
I have a question involving the variable backlight and HDR. Why on earth does this monitor force the variable backlight on when viewing HDR content? It's not too bad in games, which is obviously the primary use for this monitor, but it can be a bit distracting and have found myself primarily playing with it off because of this.
For any kind of dark HDR video content though, its really bad (maybe im doing something wrong though). I know variable backlighting and edge-lit lighting in monitors is kind of a joke, and HDR in general for the most part isn't great, which is why I am again wondering why they force the variable lights on for HDR.
Here is a video for reference: https://streamable.com/gmw9v6
Does HDR content require local dimming of some sort? Maybe its the video file itself? Sorry, new to HDR and not very knowledgeable on how it functions.
EDIT: Might as well throw this in here too. I have 2 of these right now. The first monitor shown in the video is the first unit I received and I too have the bleed on the bottom left hand side like Luca Vizzarro mentioned, very similar to his but maybe not quite as bright, hard to tell from pics. Second unit shown seems worse, and has a very different glow, more yellow or tinted.
Anyways just looking for peoples thoughts on which looks better/more normal for an IPS panel: https://streamable.com/6ys7w8
One without PC lights on, just to show the color difference in glow w/o light interference: https://streamable.com/a83glx
I have a question involving the variable backlight and HDR. Why on earth does this monitor force the variable backlight on when viewing HDR content? It's not too bad in games, which is obviously the primary use for this monitor, but it can be a bit distracting and have found myself primarily playing with it off because of this.
For any kind of dark HDR video content though, its really bad (maybe im doing something wrong though). I know variable backlighting and edge-lit lighting in monitors is kind of a joke, and HDR in general for the most part isn't great, which is why I am again wondering why they force the variable lights on for HDR.
Here is a video for reference: https://streamable.com/gmw9v6
Does HDR content require local dimming of some sort? Maybe its the video file itself? Sorry, new to HDR and not very knowledgeable on how it functions.
EDIT: Might as well throw this in here too. I have 2 of these right now. The first monitor shown in the video is the first unit I received and I too have the bleed on the bottom left hand side like Luca Vizzarro mentioned, very similar to his but maybe not quite as bright, hard to tell from pics. Second unit shown seems worse, and has a very different glow, more yellow or tinted.
Anyways just looking for peoples thoughts on which looks better/more normal for an IPS panel: https://streamable.com/6ys7w8
One without PC lights on, just to show the color difference in glow w/o light interference: https://streamable.com/a83glx
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All right, I've ended up buying AW3821DW despite the lack of sRGB mode. LG monitors in the same size are out of stock around here (Amazon claims delivery Feb-March). Dell has much nicer warranty too. So I can finally answer my own questions from the discussion several pages ago. 
As I suspected, with HDR off this is yet another wide-gamut only monitor. So the colours are over saturated in an uncontrolled way, unless you use colour aware apps that use ICM profiles. Internet browsers can handle that, but games can not.
However, with HDR enabled in Windows (Windows HD Colour - ON), Windows handles correctly conversion to sRGB for all SDR content. Which is great, and it makes this monitor actually work like a proper sRGB monitor for desktop use and non-HDR games. There are a few gotchas though, because if you use the monitor in HDR mode:
Unfortunately you can't disable it. It's required for HDR600 certification and Dell's policy seems to be "don't give any options that would invalidate the certification".
You can only switch it to "Mode 2" which seems to be the least intrusive mode designed for desktop apps.
As I suspected, with HDR off this is yet another wide-gamut only monitor. So the colours are over saturated in an uncontrolled way, unless you use colour aware apps that use ICM profiles. Internet browsers can handle that, but games can not.
However, with HDR enabled in Windows (Windows HD Colour - ON), Windows handles correctly conversion to sRGB for all SDR content. Which is great, and it makes this monitor actually work like a proper sRGB monitor for desktop use and non-HDR games. There are a few gotchas though, because if you use the monitor in HDR mode:
- Brightness control in OSD is disabled, you can only adjust contrast or use the SDR brightness slider in Windows options.
- You can't disable Variable Backlight.
- There can be some software incompatibilities. For example I noticed that if one monitor has HDR on, the internet browsers ignore ICM profiles of the second SDR monitor.
- From my testing, that method doesn't work for OpenGL/Vulkan games, they bypass Windows HD Colour
Unfortunately you can't disable it. It's required for HDR600 certification and Dell's policy seems to be "don't give any options that would invalidate the certification".
You can only switch it to "Mode 2" which seems to be the least intrusive mode designed for desktop apps.
Thanks for the information. That's unfortunate, but not like it was really made for watching movies I suppose.
Tell me about it, I feel the monitor market is kinda meh right now. I like this monitor a lot but for the price it definitely has its shortcomings for me at least. Gonna keep testing it for a couple more days, see if any of that bleed fades away.
Tell me about it, I feel the monitor market is kinda meh right now. I like this monitor a lot but for the price it definitely has its shortcomings for me at least. Gonna keep testing it for a couple more days, see if any of that bleed fades away.
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OK have the money sat here for a AW2721D , do i bite or is there better out there for the same money ? ...... at the min i have a 24in AOC 1440p 165hz g-sync TN panel and a AORUS 24in 240hz 1080p TN panel .....................