New car delays.

jpaul · 9 May 2022 at 20:35

dLockers said:
I'll enjoy my heated seats, quiet cabin, and latte.

I thought of you ... the new must have gizmo
Tesla has updated the Model S and Model X with a new motorized swivel function for the center screen. The feature enables a better viewing experience in the car as the automaker is betting on more in-car entertainment

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why is the e-tron out of the towing game 1.8t is ok for a horse+box

Simon · 9 May 2022 at 20:43

Or just put the screen in front of the driver.

Jonnycoupe · 9 May 2022 at 20:45

Journey said:
BMW X5 xDrive45e dimensions
It is 4,922mm long, 2,218mm wide - just saying.

That will be the mirrors rather than body width to be fair.

m4rmite · 9 May 2022 at 20:59

Jonnycoupe said:
That will be the mirrors rather than body width to be fair.

X7 5.1 long and 2m wide no mirrors included
Range rover 2022 5.05m long 2.04m wide folded mirrors

Jonnycoupe · 9 May 2022 at 23:16

It’s 1996mm across the front wing on the new Range Rover. Not mirrors like I said.

Greebo · 10 May 2022 at 08:21

Journey said:
BMW X5 xDrive45e dimensions
It is 4,922mm long, 2,218mm wide - just saying.

cough its only 2004mm wide thank you!

And yes already the length gives me problems. It wont fit into most parking boxes without something sticking out. I wouldnt want to go even longer!

Greebo · 10 May 2022 at 08:24

jpaul said:
I thought of you ... the new must have gizmo
Tesla has updated the Model S and Model X with a new motorized swivel function for the center screen. The feature enables a better viewing experience in the car as the automaker is betting on more in-car entertainment

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why is the e-tron out of the towing game 1.8t is ok for a horse+box

Its not. If you have a single horse that would do. If you have 2 horses/double horse trailer then you need 2,500kg +. But the choice is hardly vast atm or affordable. Not when £30k will get you a competent ICE car capable of towing weights in excess of 2.5 tonnes.

Plus even when towing one horse my better half is paranoid and always wants a comfort level so that the max towing weight is well above the actual weight being towed. She is a vet and has attended far too many horse trailer accidents.

dlockers · 10 May 2022 at 08:37

jpaul said:
I thought of you ... the new must have gizmo
Tesla has updated the Model S and Model X with a new motorized swivel function for the center screen. The feature enables a better viewing experience in the car as the automaker is betting on more in-car entertainment

Thank god they sold a problem they created by sticking a massive television bang central

Jonnycoupe · 10 May 2022 at 08:40

jpaul said:
I thought of you ... the new must have gizmo
Tesla has updated the Model S and Model X with a new motorized swivel function for the center screen. The feature enables a better viewing experience in the car as the automaker is betting on more in-car entertainment

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why is the e-tron out of the towing game 1.8t is ok for a horse+box

It’s not a “gizmo” is correcting an obvious design flaw. Anyone interested in Tesla probably already know this, I’m not sure anyone really wants jpaul thinking of them, it’s amusing you then end you post about horse…. There’s a related theme there!

jpaul · 10 May 2022 at 10:16

Greebo said:
Plus even when towing one horse my better half is paranoid and always wants a comfort level so that the max towing weight is well above the actual weight being towed. She is a vet and has attended far too many horse trailer accidents.

what is the towing weight indicative of - better chassis strength, rear suspension, brakes, stability to roll. ? and then, where is the principal accident liability if you are near the maximum.

Jonnycoupe · 10 May 2022 at 10:20

Physics…

Greebo · 10 May 2022 at 11:24

jpaul said:
what is the towing weight indicative of - better chassis strength, rear suspension, brakes, stability to roll. ? and then, where is the principal accident liability if you are near the maximum.

All of them. Just recently I saw a horse trailer accident with a used discovery where the trailer hitch had detached itself from the car!! Turns out the trailer hitch had been an aftermarket one rather than factory fitted and had badly rusted and then fractured with the horse in the trailer.

Of course everybody will be fine towing within the state towing weight limits of a car that it is certified for but always better to have some headroom. Its a bit like running a PC with a 750W PSU and using 710W all of the time. Better to have a 1000W PSU and some headroom IMO

Em3bbs · 10 May 2022 at 12:33

Simon said:
Or just put the screen in front of the driver.

And move the dashboard to the middle?

Simon · 10 May 2022 at 12:55

Em3bbs said:
And move the dashboard to the middle?

Edit ‘put the driver specific information, like speed,in front of the driver’.

They have literally fixed a problem that didn’t exist until they (and early BMW Mini) created.

G-Man · 10 May 2022 at 18:10

You do know the screen swivel thing is only for the Model S and X which both still have actual displays in the traditional dashboard location? Its only the 3 and Y that have the centre screen only....

sandys · 10 May 2022 at 18:35

m4rmite said:
5.1 metres long and 2 metres wide.... that'll be the bmw x7 that currently frequents the school runs at present.

Rivians website puts it at 5,51m (217.1 inches) that is large in anyone's book, almost half a metre bigger than an x7, beast

Greebo said:
Of course everybody will be fine towing within the state towing weight limits of a car that it is certified for but always better to have some headroom. Its a bit like running a PC with a 750W PSU and using 710W all of the time. Better to have a 1000W PSU and some headroom IMO

Yup it is often quoted 85% by the caravan club, though with the weight of EVs the risk of tail wagging the dog must be quite reduced, EVs should end up being perfect tow vehicles once charging is a non issue, all that torque, awd and lots of weight low down.

Em3bbs · 10 May 2022 at 20:46

Simon said:
Edit ‘put the driver specific information, like speed,in front of the driver’.

They have literally fixed a problem that didn’t exist until they (and early BMW Mini) created.

A G-Man rightly points out, the S and X series have a dash with the driver specific information in the 'normal' place. Also, BMW Mini didn't create that problem, the original Mini did.

But as a Model 3 owner, I do agree, I don't like that the controls/info are on central a touch screen display, and the speed is too small and in the wrong corner of it.

Simon · 10 May 2022 at 20:53

Damn you. I remember the 2001 mini I used to drive. Centre speedo was annoying

Nemiyen · 10 May 2022 at 21:18

I've seen a massive increase in 71 and 22 plate cars recently. I'm guessing all the cars people have been waiting on have finally arrived.

It's a shame my current car won't last another 3 years when everyone wants to get rid of them before the warranty expires and I can get one cheaper. :cool:

chanjy · 10 May 2022 at 21:41

Nemiyen said:
I've seen a massive increase in 71 and 22 plate cars recently. I'm guessing all the cars people have been waiting on have finally arrived.

It's a shame my current car won't last another 3 years when everyone wants to get rid of them before the warranty expires and I can get one cheaper.

Hate to break it to you but anything with 71 plates have been around since at least Feb so it’s probably all in your head