New cat 6 wiring in house

I guess this is what I am failing to understand how this 12V set up works, do i need a like another cable to be fed through the same hole as the coaxial cables, and this 12v be plugged into a socket?
 
The cable you have is two cables in one. It’s a co-axial cable and a power cable. The power cable is the other pair of thin wires.

you buy a power distribution box from the same people you’re getting your cameras from and at the recorder end of the cable you expose the inner conductor of each wire and screw it onto the 12V terminals in the Power Distribution Box. You then fit plugs onto the other end of the 12V cables at the camera and plug those into the camera tails. Or you can just splice the cables together with chocolate block or something similar.
 
Oh i see so i do not need to get any other wires.... is this not an option people would normally do?
Would you recommend any you tube vids that show this, I would search myself but not sure what i'd be searching for exactly as i looked for coaxial set ups and they were fine, but did not show this power cable set up as what you have mentioned makes sense, I just need to see how the set up gets done?

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i've come across this vid i presumably would need to do the thing he does at both ends?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTbLfBDZ5ZM
 
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Sort of - don’t do that with the CO-ax cable. He’s done that totally wrong. And I think the reason no-one ever shows the 12V being spliced is that it’s just so simple. We don’t do it like that. We use waterproof chocolate block connectors to join the cables together or if the customer wants it done PROPERLY we solder the wires to the plug itself. And that’s how I’d do it for myself at home. And if you buy the correct 12V power distribution unit it will have screw terminals inside so you don’t need a connector on the recorder end of the cable at all.

https://www.cop-eu.com/installation-equipment/installation-equipment/PR204
https://www.cop-eu.com/installation-equipment/installation-equipment/PR204
https://www.cop-eu.com/installation-equipment/installation-equipment/PR038
https://www.cop-eu.com/installation-equipment/installation-equipment/PR204
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-in-line-junction-box/8692h

https://www.securitydynamics.co.uk/power-supplies/boxed-psus/hay-psu412-5a.html
 
Oh no, do you please any vids you would recommend as the way it should be done?

all the items you have stated I would need at the receiver end i presume?
 
Thanks
I have builder issues, and i sorta want the cameras in place so i can see when they come, they seem to come in the evening when im not there, and i wana know why they are coming to my house - and they are obv not working
 
Hi all, another **** up by my builder id asked him to run my sky cables and he's left too much on the roof end and as rendering taken place i no longer can pull on it, and its about 3m short at the TV end.
anyways I have googled and it appears i can just connect some additional wires, been to the local electrical shop and i've just bought TWIN RG6 75 coaxial cable, firstly i presume this is ok?
The chap gave me some connectors to put on either ends where the twin cables are being connected, i do not know what there called.
But theres like a thing in a middle and in my mind the copper from each end wont go through it, it will go through the normal thing which you turn on to fix on to the cable, but there is like another thing in the middle which both of these connectors screw onto and i dont believe the copper will feed through that its middle bit is white with a hole, but i cant see through the hole .... i of course cannot test this will work as my dish isnt yet up and running.... so hoping someone to guide me.... i apologise in advance for calling them things, i just dont know what there called and i'm hoping someone hopefully understand what im trying to get at
 
Can you put a photograph up of the cable etc? If you are after any satellite/AV cables, @lucid is your man. He will be able to make up a cable you need and having bought cables from him, I can tell you that they are much better quality than what you will get in your average shop.
 
When i started this post, i attempted to attach pics but there was no option to - I've already bought the cable so wont look to purchase again, unless its wrong. If there is a way i can upload some pics please advise

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the connector things look like this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Satellites...ocphy=9044945&hvtargid=pla-437809015181&psc=1


Going to try to write this up better

so the 4 F-Type Connectors i can see the copper through them when i cut the cable, but i cannot see how the copper is fed through 2 F-Type coupler as its not possible to push the copper through


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Ive just one ahead and attempted to connect, it appears the copper isnt supposed to go through - please correct me if im wrong, but i have another issue, the 4 F-Type Connectors, 2 are fine as the cable I bought is thicker, but when i attempted to connect the other end to the sky cable, they appear slightly thinner, and this means i cannot tighten the connector to the cable
 
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imgur and imgbb will let you host, give you bb tags to embed, and I think they're allowed to be linked to from this forum? Anyone know if that's still correct before I get someone in trouble?
 
i've pushed down on the thinner cables with a plier very gently and thats kept the connectors in place, i just hope what ive done is right, would hate to have to live the floor boards an all
 
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so the 4 F-Type Connectors i can see the copper through them when i cut the cable, but i cannot see how the copper is fed through 2 F-Type coupler as its not possible to push the copper through

Ive just one ahead and attempted to connect, it appears the copper isnt supposed to go through - please correct me if im wrong, but i have another issue, the 4 F-Type Connectors, 2 are fine as the cable I bought is thicker, but when i attempted to connect the other end to the sky cable, they appear slightly thinner, and this means i cannot tighten the connector to the cable
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You are right, the male connection of the F-Type connector isn't supposed to go all the way through the coupler. As for uploading photos, I use https://postimages.org/ mainly. Just use the 'direct link to image' URL when embedding the image:

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You really don’t need to stress over this so much.

I’ll see if I can find some better videos.
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Hey @WJA96 Did you get a chance to see if you can recommend any vids, i'm now ready to place my order for the cameras and DVR - just figuring out which ones to go for and considering mix and match of the Hikvision cameras, so maybe 2-3 which have audio but are 2MP and then the other 5 which are 8MP without audio, and hopefully all will work with a compatible DVR
 
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Hikvision have just released some rather lovely 8MP/4K PoC ColorVu cameras with 40m soft white lights. The image quality on these is awesome. And I don’t say that lightly.

https://www.cop-eu.com/hdcvi-cameras-dvrs/cameras/DS-2CE12UF3T-E(2.8MM)

I’m expecting something similar/better from Dahua very soon.
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@WJA96
These are displayed as POC, so to power them I would need to the 12v power distribution unit right?
Going through all the messages on this post again - and getting more confused.

Say I bought 5 of the above from cop. To power the cameras I would have to run a 12v power distribution unit right, otherwise how else can I get power to the cameras, of course I do not want to run additional wires to the coaxial, as you have pointed out the cable I have is a double cable anyways?
 
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@WJA96
These are displayed as POC, so to power them I would need to the 12v power distribution unit right?
Going through all the messages on this post again - and getting more confused.

Say I bought 5 of the above from cop. To power the cameras I would have to run a 12v power distribution unit right, otherwise how else can I get power to the cameras, of course I do not want to run additional wires to the coaxial, as you have pointed out the cable I have is a double cable anyways?
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For PoC, IF you have a PoC XVR then you only need the coax cable - you wouldn’t need to use the power part of your existing RG59 shotgun cable at all.

For PoC this cable termination video is how I learned to do it. But I bought ALL the tools. I would suggest buying the special RG59 cable stripper though.

https://youtu.be/5fqfveFq9ME

If you don’t want to buy the crimp tool then for screw-on connectors see this video where he also shows you how to split out the power cables on the shotgun cable (he calls it a Siamese cable) https://youtu.be/k6P_m7itbC0

Most videos don’t show connecting up the power because supposedly it’s ‘trivial’ to expose the conductors and either screw into a terminal or just twist them together (and wrapped in tape) onto a Pre-made tail.
 
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For PoC, IF you have a PoC XVR then you only need the coax cable - you wouldn’t need to use the power part of your existing RG59 shotgun cable at all.

For PoC this cable termination video is how I learned to do it. But I bought ALL the tools. I would suggest buying the special RG59 cable stripper though.

https://youtu.be/5fqfveFq9ME

If you don’t want to buy the crimp tool then for screw-on connectors see this video where he also shows you how to split out the power cables on the shotgun cable (he calls it a Siamese cable) https://youtu.be/k6P_m7itbC0

Most videos don’t show connecting up the power because supposedly it’s ‘trivial’ to expose the conductors and either screw into a terminal or just twist them together (and wrapped in tape) onto a Pre-made tail.
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Thanks for clarifying, so I'm looking on the https://www.cop-eu.com/ website and searching for Pco XVR it only shows me with Dahua XVRs... dont Hikvision make them - esp as I want the cameras you mentioned:
https://www.cop-eu.com/hdcvi-cameras-dvrs/cameras/DS-2CE12UF3T-E(2.8MM)

I will then purchase 2 cameras which I can have mic with and hopefully connect them to the same XVR.... which I hope will be possible
 
Yes, sorry - XVR is Dahua’s marketing term for a DVR that also works with IP cameras (normally termed an NVR) so Dahua call them crossover video recorders or XVRs.

You want a PoC recorder. And you have a slight challenge in that, as far as I’m aware, while Hikvision make an 8MP PoC camera, they don’t currently sell a PoC recorder in the UK.

Dahua do https://www.securitydynamics.co.uk/hdcvi-recorders/poc-recorders/xvr5108h-4kl-x-8p-8t.html but you’d need to be 100% certain that all features from those cameras are implemented on the Dahua XVR before you buy. I will ask. And I’ll also ask my Hikvision rep when their 4K/8MP PoC recorder is likely to hit the UK.
 
The news from Hikvision isn’t very positive I’m afraid.

You can use an 8MP PoC camera on the 5MP PoC recorder but it will use 4 channels on the recorder so you would need an 8 channel recorder for 2 cameras and a 32 channel channel recorder for 8 cameras. On top of that, while you can view the 8MP camera in continuous mode (>30fps) they will only record and play back at 8fps which I personally would consider unacceptable.

I currently have no news on when the Hikvision 4K PoC recorders will be available in the UK.
 
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