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New CPU, RAM and Motherboard and constant crashes and windows installation error when I try to reinstall any programs.

I kill Bunnies

I kill Bunnies

I kill Bunnies

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I would be eternally grateful for any help here as I'm really struggling.

I replaced some parts and my setup is now 7700x, MSI Gaming mono with WiFi, 3080 and 850 watt PSU.

The system boots up OK, then I play a game for 30 minutes or so and then it crashes. Then it crashes soon after re-entering the game. I turn my pc off for 15 minutes and the cycle repeats.

I also have this windows installation error.

I have reset and reinstalled Windows 11 twice, updated all drivers and uninstalled all old files related to the previous Intel chip. I have updated the Bios. I have reduced the wattage down to 65 Watts.

I have ran several checks/scans through command prompt.

Still the problem persists.

In event manager the bugs are the occasional Kernel power error and many application errors.

I have ordered a new PSU (1200 watts) but I have a feeling this won't fix it.

I would be grateful for any help here please!
 
I doubt its memory but with checking with memtest at expo and default speed, also remove your underclock.


3080 can have power spikes of upto 500w so it could be something to do with that .
 
With the GPU, do you have 1 x power cable from the PSU to 2 x 8 pin connecters? If so I would change it to 2 x power cables to each 8 pin connecter.

What parts did you replace?

Do you have PBO or CO enabled in the bios?

With my 9800X3D I did a all core -30, PC booted fine and most things where working but when I played Helldivers 2 the PC was crash and I would need to force a shut down. Removing the -30 and turning back off PBO and CO resolved the issue even though other games where fine.

What are you using for storing Windows on?

What cooler are you using? could you have tightened this up too much?
 
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I kill Bunnies said:
The system boots up OK, then I play a game for 30 minutes or so and then it crashes. Then it crashes soon after re-entering the game. I turn my pc off for 15 minutes and the cycle repeats.
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By "crash" what do you mean exactly? CTD? BSOD? Black screen?

I kill Bunnies said:
In event manager the bugs are the occasional Kernel power error and many application errors.
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What kind of application errors? You mean where they have to be closed? That's not necessarily a problem, since many are harmless, but it could indicate CPU or memory instability. Do you have any undervolts? PBO/curve optimiser? What speed is your memory operating at and how many sticks?

I kill Bunnies said:
I have reduced the wattage down to 65 Watts.
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What does that mean? You just enabled eco mode?
 
Reinstalled windows twice?
Why then would there be files left
From the previous intel chip to uninstall/delete?
Did you actually do a clean reinstall of windows ?
Ie wipe the original windows then reinstall from scratch?
 
I kill Bunnies said:
Seasonic FOCUS PX-750
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from my recollection the GX and PX series did fix the OCP protections that used to trip the old Focus series when using with GPUs with extremely high transient loads (eg your 3080)
when did the problem start? did you have issues with the system even before the upgrade?
if you did have problems before the upgrade, what is left of the old system that you have reused?
have you tried to run everything at stock without expo etc?
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Reinstalled windows twice?
Why then would there be files left
From the previous intel chip to uninstall/delete?
Did you actually do a clean reinstall of windows ?
Ie wipe the original windows then reinstall from scratch?
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When I first booted it up, there were still Intel files.

For Windows 11 I did a "reset PC". But if there's a better way please let me know.
 
I kill Bunnies said:
When I first booted it up, there were still Intel files.

For Windows 11 I did a "reset PC". But if there's a better way please let me know.
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Although windows is more robust nowadays
If you change hardware
Amd to intel or vice versa for example than years ago
Assuming you had no issues before changing hardware
You have to consider windows may be the issue

As tamzzy said while I was slowly typing
Use something to make a bootable usb
Windows media creator,rufus or ventoy are some of
The usual free software to do this
Rufus and windows creator can also download the
Iso for you
Ventoy works differently its great to just drag and drop
Multiple isos onto it very useful to put
Windows or Linux or preboot tools etc onto

You then start the pc
Boot off the usb
Format the original windows and clean install
The new windows meaning nothing is left
From previous windows

Should also have some sort of backup before
Doing it just in case
Especially if got Multiple drives inside the pc
Though if they're sata drives it's easy to disable them
Except the one drive you have for windows
Either by just pulling the cable off
Or disable those sata in the bios
 
Tetras said:
By "crash" what do you mean exactly? CTD? BSOD? Black screen?


What kind of application errors? You mean where they have to be closed? That's not necessarily a problem, since many are harmless, but it could indicate CPU or memory instability. Do you have any undervolts? PBO/curve optimiser? What speed is your memory operating at and how many sticks?


What does that mean? You just enabled eco mode?
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Typically the game simply closes suddenly, sometimes it blue screens and reboots (often two or three times in a row before it reaches the login screen).
Tetras said:
By "crash" what do you mean exactly? CTD? BSOD? Black screen?


What kind of application errors? You mean where they have to be closed? That's not necessarily a problem, since many are harmless, but it could indicate CPU or memory instability. Do you have any undervolts? PBO/curve optimiser? What speed is your memory operating at and how many sticks?


What does that mean? You just enabled eco mode?
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Usually the game simply shuts suddenly, sometimes it bluescreens and does this several times before reaching the Windows login screen.

The "application errors" are shown on the Event Viewer.

For the CPU/ram etc...the user benchmark screenshots are as attached.
Tetras said:
By "crash" what do you mean exactly? CTD? BSOD? Black screen?


What kind of application errors? You mean where they have to be closed? That's not necessarily a problem, since many are harmless, but it could indicate CPU or memory instability. Do you have any undervolts? PBO/curve optimiser? What speed is your memory operating at and how many sticks?


What does that mean? You just enabled eco mode?
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Usually the game crashes and I am staring at desktop, sometimes it's blue screen and it takes several attempts to get to the Windows login screen.

The "Application errors" are shown on the Event Viewer, it is the most numerous error but I cannot glean any further useful info from the information provided.

The user benchmark screenshots are:

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I have subsequently enable XMP and removed the 65 Watt in the Bios.

It is not in Eco mode, I cannot install the Ryzen software to enable this due to the Windows installer error.
 
ED209 said:
With the GPU, do you have 1 x power cable from the PSU to 2 x 8 pin connecters? If so I would change it to 2 x power cables to each 8 pin connecter.

What parts did you replace?

Do you have PBO or CO enabled in the bios?

With my 9800X3D I did a all core -30, PC booted fine and most things where working but when I played Helldivers 2 the PC was crash and I would need to force a shut down. Removing the -30 and turning back off PBO and CO resolved the issue even though other games where fine.

What are you using for storing Windows on?

What cooler are you using? could you have tightened this up too much?
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The GPU has 2 x 8 pin connectors. I have slotted in a 6+2 connector into each.

I have PBO enabled now (I removed the 65 wattage) but what is CO?

The cooler is a Noctua NH-U12A and this has been refitted with new new thermal paste, problems persist though.
 
CO
Curve optimiser
It's a way of Undervolting the cpu cores
Either all together
Or on an individual basis
It allows more boost headroom due to less heat/voltage
Since already got instability of some sort
This isn't something you want to play around with
 
tamzzy said:

use a usb drive to create windows installation media (second option in the link)
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I have attempted this twice this afternoon. I put windows 11 on a portable hard drive and changed the boot priority accordingly. I then booted, selected language and entered my windows key and selected the partition. Then "Installing Windows" blue screen and then a message telling me if I wish to upgrade Windows unplug portable drive and select "Yes", otherwise press "No" for a clean installation.

I press No and then eventually it goes full circle and I am asked to select language, enter product key...
 
tamzzy said:
need a usb flash drive iirc, not a portable hdd
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can actually use
a usb flash drive, usb hdd,,usb ssd/m2
and even an internal fixed hdd,ssd,m2
if you use ventoy
i have all my install isos and all my tools and
RE isos on an internal m2
no more hunting for where did i put the flash drive
and can fit a lot more isos
and of course a m2 is a lot faster than a flash drive
 
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