NEW GAMING PC FOR 18TH BIRTHDAY PRESENT. HELP!

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He would like a i9 processor even though I do not think its needed. He tells me it needs a good graphics card and storage.
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The new i5 12600k comes with 10 cores 6+4 big / little and actually beats the previous i9 11900k in pretty much everything so would likely be plenty for your sons needs and it's also half the price of the i9 12900k so that saving could be put towards a better GPU.
 
Hello Everyone

Sorry was working at weekend and I did not have a chance to catch up.
First, thank you to all of you have taken time to post and share your views. All much appreciated.
After the posts about alder lake last week I went away thinking I was going to have to raid the piggy bank to get the alder lake model that was linked
by Haz123 as at that time you considered it the best option

1 x OcUK Gaming Zirconium - Intel Core i9 12900KF, GeForce RTX 3080Ti Pro Gaming PC = £3,724.97

However I am concerned after reading further posts this may have glitches that new technology is prone to when first released which is not something I can really consider when my son uses his computer everyday.

Haz123 has also suggested the following and Mickyflinn confirmed the ryzen model was good

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...rd-gen-pro-gaming-configurator-fs-01u-tl.html

My basket at overclockers uk:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,526.73
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:EK Water Blocks EK-AIO 360 D-RGB All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN750 1TB M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0C)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Midi-Tower - White Window
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,540.83 (includes shipping: £14.10)


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- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...orce-rtx-3000-series-gaming-pc-fs-1f1-og.html

My basket at overclockers uk:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Zirconium Ice - Intel Core i7 12700KF, GeForce RTX 3000 Series Gaming PC = £2,799.95
    • Memory:Team Group Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - RGB Black (TF1D4
    • Primary M.2 Solid State Drive:Samsung 980 Pro 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
    • Secondary M.2 Solid State Drive:Unwanted
    • Primary 2.5" Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan G SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - OEM
    • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* Asus GeForce RTX 3070 ROG Strix Gaming OC White Edition 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
Total: £2,814.05 (includes shipping: £14.10)


I am now strongly considering the ryzen option above as its known technology. . Please can you reassure me this is a good decision as its a big outlay and I have heard of intel but not really heard so much of Ryzen. Also want to know this build is futureproofed for a while.

As I was considering extending myself moneywise to get alder lake, is there anything you would tweak on the ryzen build if you had a bit more budget? Maybe £3K maybe a bit more: next level ryzen processor, graphics card, storage or whatever to make it even better. Or is this advanced enough

I would like to get a case that lights up. Lan li was mentioned. Has anyone got a picture of one or something similar?

Can anyone suggest a good monitor to go with this? Would a 30inch be good? Other family members are going to get this for him.

Finally, please can you confirm he will be able to play his basic games such as roblox and minecraft as well as well as more advanced games otherwise i am in big trouble :cry: Also that he will be able to do his homework, use windows as normal etc etc

Thanks to Craig and Joxeon as well. I think I would like to get the computer from from Overclockers if possible.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge
& thank you for sharing all of yours

Peter;);)
 
Hardware - With the limitations of the OCUK configurator and builds some options are not available.

I have advised that the Ryzen system is less likely to have issues and is what I would buy for my own son. I have a similar Ryzen system and I have no doubts it will be good for at least 5 years if not longer

All the pcs linked will play everything currently available from Roblox games to Cyberpunk, EDIT - other than a few DRM copywrite protected games than may have issues with Alderlake. The only games it could not natively play are Apple exclusive games on MacOS (if there are any) or Android games but you can use an emulator for Android games. The pcs are very nearly top spec and will work excellently for many years. Windows is installed and will work perfectly for all standard office tasks and is massively overkill for any school related tasks. They will be amazing pcs.

Potential changes- The configutor has many options and you could change a host of things. Maybe change the WD 750 1TB to WD 850 1TB so that you have a pcie 4.0 drive for OS. You really need to have a good click in the configurator yourself and see what the options are and look at the pics to see what you like the look of. Also other potential prebuilds on OCUK once you have narrowed down your choices.

Cases and Aestetics -

Once again you need to have a click in the configurator so you can see what cases you like the look of. Very popular cases are the Lian Li O11 range, Lian Li Lancool II , Corsair 5000x , Corsair 500D , Phanteks 400, Phanteks 600. Any of those would be ok and also all the others are decent as well.

Now for the PC pron so you can see what is achievable.

https://i.imgur.com/G91YnIS.jpg

That is the set up of a forum user by the name of ~bones~ , hope he doesnt mind me using his excellent pc as an example. The case is an O11 Dynamic with an NZXT AIO and an air cooled gpu mounted normally and not vertically. That PC is kind of how the ones we have advised would look but bones has added a lot of extra fans to fill the case out, if you have a large case and leave it mostly empty then it does not look as nice as it can. He has also matched all the fans and it looks great. To achieve something similar you would need to buy extra fans and either ask OCUK to install them or do it yourself.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35029366

I really like this one. Forum member Boycie, hope you dont mind dude. Once again an O11 but with different AIO but once again with extra fans to fill the build.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35113271

Craig_d1 excellent build in Corsair 5000X. Extra fans ordered to fill the build out.

I hope I am not confusing you too much but to achieve a similar level of excellence you will need extra fans and to make them match. To do that first you need to pick the AIO cooler and then get the matching fans and ask OCUK to supply and fit them. Things to do , pick a case and AIO then decide on extra fans needed

Lastly my own build.



O11 Dynamic with AMD 5900x and 32gb DDR4.

Monitor - not my area of expertise. I personally use an IPS 34" ultrawide 3440x1440 , i love the 21/9 apect ratio
 
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Hi Foxcatcher,
think Haz123 has covered everything (and thanks Haz123 for showing my rig:)). All the rigs will play the games you want and more than enough for homework etc. All the cpu's are more than enough, with gaming being bottlenecked by the gpu, not the cpu in a lot of cases. If you want to improve gaming performance then it's the gpu you need to look at. For nvidia the 3000 series cards go 3060, 3060ti, 3070, 3070ti, 3080, 3080ti and 3090. For AMD 6600, 6600XT(sits between 3060/3060ti), 6700XT, 6800XT 6900XT. Haz123 has the 6800XT which is comparable to my 3080, uses less power I think, but doesn't perform as well in ray tracing and misses out with DLSS(also cheaper(if you can call it that) than a 3080 by quite a bit at the mo from looking). AMD now has FSR which will give games a framerate boost, and as AMD supply the gpu's for PS5 and XSX, I would think a lot of games will have it implemented in the future. If you want 4k gaming, then you have to look at the 3080/6800XT I would say, but for 1440P gaming I'd go 3070/3070ti/6700XT(pref 3070ti for me), and the others for 1080p gaming. Going for an ultrawide 1440p monitor though will require a lot more pixels to push, hence why I went for a 3080, though sure a 3070ti will cope
My build as a guide below. I built my rig so I could work from home and game. I'm using a 1080 monitor at the mo which was given to me until I can save up for an ultrawide like Haz above, but just downloaded Control and with everything on high with raytracing was getting 100/110fps, with dlss that jumped to 150/170fps...minecraft got over 1000fps while underground with 99%fps over 400, so gaming not a problem for me.
Waking from sleep, my pc is up and running quicker than the monitor, as when monitor wakes my password screen is already up, and I'm up and running as soon as I type it in..this will be down to the nvme rather than anything, and don't think you'll notice any difference whether you drop to a pcie3 nvme either. I'm not expecting to have to upgrade for years, as the performance is way more than I need

Case: 5000X.....nearly built in a lian li 011d XL but the corsair case went on offer and thought I'd save a bit
Motherboard: B550 Rog strix E gaming
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
Ram: 32GB (2x16) DDR4 Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600C18, and 2 light enhancement kit
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080FE
AIO: corsair H150i pro xt(360mm rad)
Storage: 2TB WD SN850 pcie 4 nvme
PSU: Corsair RM1000X
Fans: 9xCorsair QL120's
Commander Pro (for the fans)

As for Intel 12th gen or ryzen, for your son, I'd stay away from the 12900 or 5900X and above. The extra cost doesn't justify the performance gain in games, and the productivity performance wont be utilizes either for homework etc. For Ryzen, new chips will come out Jan next year with 3D v cache supposedly giving a 15% jump in gaming performance, but that will be it as they transition to AM5 platform. Intel, I've seen no reviewer recommend the DDR5 as the cost is more than double DDR4 for on av1-3% gain in gaming performance, so you'll be looking at a DDR4 mobo. The motherboards are also more expensive than the Ryzen boards also as they haven't released any b board equivalent yet, so whichever route you go, next upgrade in future for either platform will require a new motherboard etc.
In states, microcenter has dropped the price of the 5800X cpu from $450 to $300, just after intel release. If similar thing happen over here, that's the route I'd go. It just depends whether price drops get reflected in prebuilds or not

Oh, if you got for the build Haz has, get your checkbook out:cry::cry:. Full on watercooling. Looks awesome though
 
As a guide for building yourself, the 6700XT is looking more reasonable than spending £900 for a 3070, and you will have all the rgb you'll want..the uni fans can daisychain to make instillation a lot easier, and you could buy another 3 pack and discard the fans that come with the aio to link all 9 fans together..the triple fan packs have a controller that the other fans can plug into, negating the need for a commander pro, also will have a lot less wires to contend with. Pay £65 more and you can have the XL case which has a rgb strip down the front also, and has a caddy for adding/removing 3.5" hhd if you need more storage. You have a 2tb nvme in there..not the fastest, but more than enough for gaming. the gaming edge b550 mobo has wifi 6..the X570 tomahawk will support 2xpcie4 nvme but out of stock, but b550 board will support 1 and 1 pcie3...it's a great board anyway with great vrm's and runs cool. if you don't need wifi you could even drop to the b550 tomahawk..(i like wifi built in to cover all bases and keep internals as clear as poss)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,136.44 (includes shipping: £14.70)
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Hello Again

Thank you to all of you again for your help and advice. My head is aching :cry: but your patience and advice is invaluable to a non computer person like me.
Craig I would love to build it, but my son wants it for his 18th not his 30th birthday:cry:. No I am better leaving this to the experts.

I think with all your help I am nearly there. I have tweaked the original spec from Haz123 that everyone seems to agree on to include some minor advised upgrades. I don not know what the majority of things are on the configurator so I am 100% reliant on your expertise. I have added a light box. Anyone got any views on these? Would it be better to fill with fans as on some of your own builds. I like all of your builds and the big screens to view them on. Can you change colours etc.

Do you think case is right size or should it be bigger? The lan li cases all look similar. Do I need to fill the case up so it does no look bare? But want it to look smart as well.

I like the tubes in Haz123's own build. Is this expensive ?? Would it work with this set up?

Is there anything I need to add so when it comes out of the box it work?:cry: Is it worth upgrading to windows 11?

Is there anything else to be tweaked or upgraded to make this even more special in your opinions as you have created this build for my son;)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...R3Z79caFi3W:.caGe3WyzcaIR3X*vcaJf3X'vcaJA3X_v

Thank you all again for your continued help.

Peter
 
Foxcatcher said:
Hello Again

Thank you to all of you again for your help and advice. My head is aching :cry: but your patience and advice is invaluable to a non computer person like me.
Craig I would love to build it, but my son wants it for his 18th not his 30th birthday:cry:. No I am better leaving this to the experts.

I think with all your help I am nearly there. I have tweaked the original spec from Haz123 that everyone seems to agree on to include some minor advised upgrades. I don not know what the majority of things are on the configurator so I am 100% reliant on your expertise. I have added a light box. Anyone got any views on these? Would it be better to fill with fans as on some of your own builds. I like all of your builds and the big screens to view them on. Can you change colours etc.

Do you think case is right size or should it be bigger? The lan li cases all look similar. Do I need to fill the case up so it does no look bare? But want it to look smart as well.

I like the tubes in Haz123's own build. Is this expensive ?? Would it work with this set up?

Is there anything I need to add so when it comes out of the box it work?:cry: Is it worth upgrading to windows 11?

Is there anything else to be tweaked or upgraded to make this even more special in your opinions as you have created this build for my son;)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...R3Z79caFi3W:.caGe3WyzcaIR3X*vcaJf3X'vcaJA3X_v

Thank you all again for your continued help.

Peter
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Hi Peter, that link goes to a Ryzen 5 3600 cpu/3070 ti system for just shy of £2.4k !! Thats way too much ... you can pick that cpu up for £190, it ain't the best for that kinda money ;)
 
If you goto your basket and look down you will see a box with BBCODE in it. Press button then highlight all the text and copy it then you can paste it into here so we can see exactly what you have in your basket.

I have no idea what the Techgforge lightbox actually is so cannot advise. For £100 it better be good. Hopefully someone else knows what it is.

The Lian Li O11 cases all do look the same, they just get bigger from Mini> Dynamic> XL. The Mini would be best for your use case but it is not in the configurator as a choice. Bigger is not always better because a big case when left empty looks sad and unfinished imho.

Adding extra fans is a good idea. If you go with the EK AIO then you should match the fans and get the EK Varder fans - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...0er-rgb-500-2200-rpm-fan-120mm-fg-00b-ek.html - Plenty of choices and colours in the EK fans.
You would want 3-6 of them so not a cheap addition but they will cast light into the case and could make the lightbox unneeded. If you phone up and ask nicely they may even fit them for you.

It should 100% work out of the box or OCUK have not done their job properly. They will test it before it leaves the shop I would hope but something can come loose in transit. If you plug it in and it doesnt work then ring up customer services and they will help you out.

The tubes in my build are part of a water cooling system and yes very expensive. I was posting it to show you I was using a lot of the same parts as I was recommending, I have XL Dynamic in white and it is a beautiful case. You really do not want to think about building your son a watercooled PC at this stage. OCUK do sell them but they are extraordinarily expensive and it makes maintence extremely difficult.

All the coloured lights are changeable by software. Is a pain to use so let your son work that part out.

Edit - I would say stick with Win10 for now. Let Win 11 mature for a while before upgrading.
 
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I am sorry

I have had trouble saving this configuration. I have even spoken to overclockers and they has sent me the previous link I posted

Hope this works

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My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,666.76
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:EK Water Blocks EK-AIO 360 D-RGB All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:TechForge RGB lightbox for Lian-Li PC-011 Dynamic
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Midi-Tower - White Window
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,680.86 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
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I have also been watching videos of lan Li boxes and they fit rads on some of them. Would I need them?
Would six fans or more if needed be better for the computer and what configuration is best Once again relying to your advice here.
I will speak to overclockers very nicely and ask them to fit them:cry: if you advise this is better than getting a light box

Thanks again
 
Not sure what videos you have watched. Yes there are a lot of builds that are fully watercooled and will have rads in them. It is not necessary but it does look nice. The builds we are helping you with does actually have a radiator, the AIO's (stands for all in one )we are recommending has a rad built in. You can see the rad in the pic I am linking below , it is at the very top of the case.

The 3 fans on the AIO expelling the hot air would be enough from a performance stand point. Part of the reason you add extra fans is to increase airflow but the other part is to make it look pretty. Without any extra fans it would look kind of empty, it is not a small case and the components alone will not fill it.



Problem with OCUK is that people do not post that many pics until they have their pc looking amazing. I have found a pic where it is semi amazing and I have highlighted the areas I am concerned about. This is similar to how the pc you currently have listed will look, just with less fans on your current build

Firstly, you have picked the Lian Li O11 Dynamic White just like in this picture. You can get a black version if you prefer. If going white then you can get white fans and white AIO such as this one.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian...nce-rgb-cpu-water-cooler-white-hs-008-ll.html

This is an excellent cooler and does match a white build a lot better. I did not pick it originally because I was trying to stick to your budget. If you went for this then you would want to change the fans to match.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian...an-with-controller-triple-pack-fg-00q-ll.html - Matching fans.

Area 1 - If you do not buy extra fans then that area will be just blank steel sheets.

Area 2 - You get to see what it looks like when an area is left empty. The black SSD caddys do come off and the HDD can be mounted around the back out of sight.

Area 3 - Custom sleeves so will look slightly nicer than the stock Corsair PSU cables. No effect on performance.


I do not know what the lightbox is. I personally would remove it and use the money from that to upgrade to the Lian Li Galahad cooler and then order 2 sets of the 3 pack ST120 fans. Ask OCUK ot mount the AIO in the roof like in the pic and put the fans at side and bottom. It would then look very similar to this one https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35029366

I am sorry there is so much to think about. Decide if you ment to go with the white case or not and make adjustments as you need.
 
if you're set on lian li 011d case, I'd personally get a 360mm aio for top with fans expelling and then get another 6 fans, 3 on bottom, 3 on side, drawing air in. That'll create a nice positive pressure withing the case, so air will be pushed out all the gaps/vents etc and so reduce amount of dust getting in the case. air moves in from bottom/side, and hotter air out through top like a chimney. You wont need multiple rads.
As to fans, most will be more than adequate so come down to which ones you like the look of. I went Corsair QL120's, as the rgb lights are on both sides on the fan, and have an inner/outer ring of led. As the fans orientated to draw air in are such that when you look into the case, you see the back of the fans, so the back design was important to me also. i ended up taking the fans that came with the aio off also and putting another set of QL120's on instead, just so everything matched up. A lot of fans that come with aio either don't have rgb or inner ring rgb...if you then mount them on the top, you don't really see them at all( in link Haz sent you can see the fans originally before I swapped them out. From where I have pc, I just see the fans side on, hence having the front/back ql's work for me.
Have a look also at the lian li uni fans. the SL have a fairly unique design which looks smart and the AL are inner only(but look smart from back). Best to look at few youtube vids to see what they're like

Corsair QL120's in a 011d xl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oexkk3Ls5M&t=1542s&ab_channel=TheProvokedPrawn

The lian li AL and SL fans in same case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Bu6D8HPlw&ab_channel=TheProvokedPrawn

011D white with wite sl fans, rad on top, though i would put lead to pump other side as they obscure the ram a bit, but has strimmer cables to board and gpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_J7p_aoSY&ab_channel=Un-Box-It



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7igcSxJYgg

Very relevant video with a lot of the components we are suggesting. Shows the EK 360 AIO and the ST120 fans in O11 XL (slightly larger than the Dynamic). He shows you how easy it is to change colours on the fans once they are installed and software is used. You do not need to use an O11 case, you are free to choose whichever case you want. If you picked a smaller case like the Corsair 485X then you would have less space to fill and would therefore need less fans.

Most of us giving suggestions have built a few pcs over the years and I know that all of my previous PCs looked average. Main reason for my pcs looking not great was because they were too large and the components did not fill them properly.

Things I have forgotten about.

MZHOU SATA USB 3.0 Motherboard Front 19 Pin Male to Female Extension Cable - OCUK do not sell these afaik, I got mine from the Rainforest website. This is only needed if you get an O11 Dynamic and put fans on the base of the case. This will allow the front USB A ports to be connected.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-argb-1-2-splitter-cable-30cm-ca-05h-kk.html - Depending on what fans you go for you may need some splitter cables like that one. Hopefully we can tell you what you require once you have decided on the fans.

I am starting to see why people like buying laptops or Dells.
 


Ok found a pic of what a lighbox looks like. There are 2 seperate items there with the back and the bottom being different parts. I do not know what the OCUK Techforge lighbox would actually be. Only way to know is to ask them. Not sure if that bottom lightbox would interfere with the connections at the bottom of the mobo. Would have to ask OCUK about that.
 
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Ok found a pic of what a lighbox looks like. There are 2 seperate items there with the back and the bottom being different parts. I do not know what the OCUK Techforge lighbox would actually be. Only way to know is to ask them. Not sure if that bottom lightbox would interfere with the connections at the bottom of the mobo. Would have to ask OCUK about that.
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https://youtu.be/8yndWFFCma0

So looks like an led strip with a diffuser plate on top to spread the light(on this one)...photo you have with infinity mirror on back too. I wonder what that does to thermals and airflow cutting off bottom and back? Seen similar with standard cases as they sit on the psu casing. Not sure with the 011d...think I prefer fans
 
Just seen this pre build. Altered slightly as now has 12700k, 32gb ram, 1tb sn750se primary, 2tb sn550 secondary and rtx 3080. Mobo is a z690 tomahawk wifi, has a 240mm aio..only thing I would do is phone and switch out bronze psu for a decent gold one

In standard 12600k, 500gb sn750 se primary, 1 TB sn550 secondary and 3070ti its £1907


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My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Sabre - Intel 12th Gen i5, RTX 3070Ti Gaming PC = £2,508.02
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - OEM
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
    • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 1 - Primary:WD Black SN750 SE 500GB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS500G1B0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 2 - Secondary:WD Blue SN550 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS200T2B0C)
    • 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) - Storage:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)
    • Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC
    • Case:Kolink Stronghold Prism ARGB Midi Tower Case - Gunmetal Grey
    • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC PLUS LHR 10GB GDDR6X Graphics Card
Total: £2,522.12 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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The build with 12600 and 3070ti for £1800 is excellent value and would be a great PC. I am sure OCUK would change the PSU to something more well regarded if you asked them too. Only problem is 12th gen and Win11, may be no issues or could be a problem and no way to know.
 
Hello Haz123 and Craig d1

Thank you for your continued posts with information and advice.
They are all greatly appreciated and especially the detail. I really do appreciate your time and effort. Thank you

Can I clarify with you just a few things as I want to make sure I am getting this right.

1) Haz123 changed your original spec to include this component below as per one of your earlier posts. Did I make a big enough
change. Is this good enough will it suit build. I also added light box but I think I will drop that now.
M.2 Solid StIate Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)

2) I am not tied to the lian li but they do look nice and get good reviews. I just want to make sure its the right size for what is going in it so it does not look like an empty metal box. I do not want to keep changing things and driving you all mad either :eek:

3) Haz123 Will overclockers get over this issue below or would it be better to change case?

MZHOU SATA USB 3.0 Motherboard Front 19 Pin Male to Female Extension Cable - OCUK do not sell these afaik, I got mine from the Rainforest website. This is only needed if you get an O11 Dynamic and put fans on the base of the case. This will allow the front USB A ports to be connected.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-argb-1-2-splitter-cable-30cm-ca-05h-kk.html - Depending on what fans you go for you may need some splitter cables like that one. Hopefully we can tell you what you require once you have decided on the fans.



4) Will the current build and components with some added fans suit box? I would like it to look nice and a bit wow if possible. If it looks like some of
the examples you have sent they look pretty cool;)

4) As I said I think I will drop light box and fill with fans. Hmmm which fans to many choices:D

From the videos you posted and like Craig advises maybe three on bottom and top and three standing up. This should hopefully make case look better and a bit wow.
But which ones !!! Going to have another think abut this tomorrow.

Many thanks again, all advice welcome and appreciated. Sorry if i keep asking basic stuff
Peter
 
1- I am using that exact drive. Is one of the fastest currently available. PCIE 3 vs PCIE 4 is a controversial subject, we do not want to open that can of worms.

2- The Lian Li O11 Dynamic is a lovely case and builds in it when done well look amazing, certainly get the wow factor. It is a large case so does need filling imo. It is your money you are spending so you can change if you like.

3- The USB 3.1 connector for the front USB A ports has a huge connector that you cannot connect if you put fans on the base of the case. The adaptor I linked would need to be purchased seperately and you would need to fit it yourself, is just plugging it in once you have it. You can change the case , is totally upto you. A smaller case does need less fans and therefore can work out cheaper.

4- If you order the same components as in the builds we have showcased then it will look exactly like they are in the vids.

If you went with the O11 ( you do not have to , it is totally your choice) then the AIO you choose will come with fans of its own. A 240 comes with 2x120mm fans and a 360 comes with 3x120mm fans , once you get used to the terminology it is self explanatory. I think you should try to match the extra fans you buy to be the same as the ones that come with the AIO but that is your choice. So if you get an EK AIO with EK fans then buy extra EK fans to match. If you got an Lian Li AIO then buy the matching fans to that etc etc. If you wanted to fill an O11 then a 360 AIO would come with 3 fans so you would need to purchase 6 more 120mm fans to fill it, they normally come in 3 packs.

One of the problems with a custom PC is that well its custom. So many choices to make so take your time and think. You know the date you are aiming for so make sure you give OCUK plenty of time to build and send it to you
 
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