NEW GAMING PC FOR 18TH BIRTHDAY PRESENT. HELP!

If you go for the corsair ql120 fans, each triple pack contains a lighting node core, which can take 6 fans, so 2 packs, 12 fans. In my build the aio fans went into 1 core, the 6 other fans in the other. I then bought commander pro which I plugged the 6 power lines from fans...the power for the 3 fans on aio go into aio connector
Each fan has a power line and an rgb line....so 9 fans is 18 cables
If you went for the new lian li uni fans, either the Al or sl, the fans can be daisy chained. This mean the 3 fans can be linked together and the 3 fans run off 2 cables, 1 for power, 1 for rgb. So 9 fans becomes 6 cables instead of 18. In each triple pack you get a control box too so you would be able to control or your fans rgb off it, and power, though aio power should be controlled separately. Not sure if that make sense, but the vid of the fans from provoked prawn, he goes through how to set them up.
The lian li st fans will be like the corsair, each fan 2 cables.if you don't have a control box and need to plug fans directly to mobo you'll run out of connections, hence the splitters, where 2/3 fans can be connected together and controlled as 1 fan. It's not ideal as then the fans cant be individually controlled

Am sure if ocuk are building PC for you, they'll get the relevant bits you need to make all fans work etc.. I wouldn't discount the new build they put up, the sabre..as it's a new PC build, it has a discount..price will creep up after a certain time
 
Haz123 said:
The build with 12600 and 3070ti for £1800 is excellent value and would be a great PC. I am sure OCUK would change the PSU to something more well regarded if you asked them too. Only problem is 12th gen and Win11, may be no issues or could be a problem and no way to know.
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The prob with the Intel and certain games not working properly due to drm was supposedly sorted by MSI and fixed with a bios update...(from report I read). As the build has a MSI tomahawk board, that should then be sorted...is early days, but 12600 does perform as well as 5800x or 12700k as well as 5900x, and cant see that many other pre build givinG that performance for the money...op could always ask for 011d to be used instead
 
Craig_d1 said:
The prob with the Intel and certain games not working properly due to drm was supposedly sorted by MSI and fixed with a bios update...(from report I read). As the build has a MSI tomahawk board, that should then be sorted...is early days, but 12600 does perform as well as 5800x or 12700k as well as 5900x, and cant see that many other pre build givinG that performance for the money...op could always ask for 011d to be used instead
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Yeah I read about the BIOS work around to disable the E cores. I am sure we both could make the pc work just fine but can Peter and his son work it out if a problem with the newer platform came up. We know that Ryzen 3 on Win10 is easy to use but it was not plain sailing with Ryzen 1 and I am in 2 minds what to advice. That system is amazing value but I cannot say it would be as issue free as a Ryzen system with Win10.

The problem is that there are just too many good choices. What we need is one PC to rule them all.
 
Other option is as I did. I wanted ql120 fans so went for cheaper aio with non rgb fans, which I then discarded. Pump head rgb slightly different but gave me the desired look and the saving on the non rgb aio offset buying the additional fans..so remember you can match aio fans to any fans you choose...the fans are not attached to the aio, but need to be screwed onto the rad, so any fans can be added...all comes down to cost in the end...if you want best bang for buck then it'll be the arctic liquid freezer 2
As side note, I too have sn850 nvme, but in reality at the mo unless your transferring large files all the time from one drive to another, you wont notice the difference between that and a pcie4 drive..the sn750 se is an new updated sn750 drive which is pcie4, but the sn750 pcie3 is also a good drive


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £308.68 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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Haz123 said:
Yeah I read about the BIOS work around to disable the E cores. I am sure we both could make the pc work just fine but can Peter and his son work it out if a problem with the newer platform came up. We know that Ryzen 3 on Win10 is easy to use but it was not plain sailing with Ryzen 1 and I am in 2 minds what to advice. That system is amazing value but I cannot say it would be as issue free as a Ryzen system with Win10.

The problem is that there are just too many good choices. What we need is one PC to rule them all.
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Always the Rapier.. put 5800x, 32gb crucial ballistix 3600c16, 1tb sn850. Again would need to change psu...not quite the looks of the 011d, but same muscle for less
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Rapier - AMD Ryzen 5600X, GeForce RTX 3070Ti Gaming PC = £2,025.91
    • Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Case:phanteks Eclipse P360 Air Mid Tower Case Tempered Glass DRGB,- Glacier White
    • Processor:*Build Stock* AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Tray
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • Storage Drive:Unwanted
    • Memory:Crucial Ballistix RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive if Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)
Total: £2,040.01 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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You are correct. That is far superior value and the Phanteks is still a nice case, it certainly cuts down on the fan shenanigans. Get a better PSU then plug it in and away they go.
 
Hello Haz123, Craig and everyone

Thanks for continued posts.

Sorry Craig I didnt see that new spec you put up last night. Thank you

I am open to any option, but I have to say the case is not as nice. Its ok but does not look wow and they say its a budget case. Maybe it needs more fans to light it up to look better. I have looked at loads of cases and reviews today,

Phantrks Enthoo Evolution seems ok
Corsair odsidan
Corsair 57ox seems to review well
Phanteks 500 reviews saying noisy if fans on high
Fractal design meshify 2
to name a few

I still think the lan li looks best in pictures and videos I have seen so far.

I think a AIO build is imperative. I am not confident in having to change any bits and your saying with the rapier this maybe needed. I need overclockers to send it to me ready to go.

Do we go back to original spec or is there any other AIO options. I thought this would be very straight forward, look at one and say that is it and order it. That shows my lack of knowledge.

Thank you again for your time and patience.
Peter
 
If you were building it yourself you could do anything you like, with the limitations of the OCUK prebuilds it is more difficult to get a perfect build. I have built a few PCs and learned from the mistakes I made and with my current build I got it very close to how I wanted it, with future builds I hope I will do better.

If you go with an O11 I do not think there is a way you can avoid using a screw driver yourself and get it full of fans like the pics we have shown. Maybe rethink and go for a Corsair 5000X like Craig has. If you chose that case you can just pick the AIO you like and then get 3 extra fans to fill the build out. No need to use a screwdriver yourself and no extra adapters needed afaik.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB 120mm Premium Fan with Lighting Node - Triple Fan Pack= £92.99
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,594.86
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:Corsair Hydro Series iCUE H150i PRO XT RGB Performance Liquid Cooler - 360mm (CW-9060045-WW)
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case - Black CC-9011212-WW
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,703.75 (includes shipping: £15.90)​
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Craig knows the Corsair fans and AIO a lot better than I do, I think he explained in an earlier post how he got the look he did.

Just so you know, the PC above will perform identically to the one for £2040 that Craig linked. You will be paying almost £600 for nicer looks , a better PSU and a better motherboard, everything else will be the same.
 
Hello Again

I have looked at so many computers today my eyes are popping out:eek:

I looked on other websites, saw one or two that are interesting including a corsair one pre built. Looks nice and gets good reviews. I did not want post as its a competitor.
I don't know if spec is as good as what you lads have recommended,

Have seen this one on overclockers which looks nice, but its intel and I would much prefer to stick to your specs.

▷ OcUK Gaming Glacier - Gigabyte Vision, RTX 30… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Not totally discounting the cheaper link that you advised the the 360 case as you said its good value for money.

May call overclockers tomorrow and speak to them.

Please let me know if you see any other deals.

Thanks Again

Peter
 
That PC you have linked has great looks but it is 10th gen Intel, I would not buy it. I would say only Ryzen 3 or 12th gen Intel are worth thinking about with the budget you have. It is also a 3070 which is approx 10% slower than 3070ti. Can go for 3070 and save some money if you like because not a massive difference and is approx £200 cheaper for very similar performance.

If you ring OCUK up and say you want a PC that looks like that but with the cpu and mobo combos we have advised and see what they say. O11 does look ok with the bottom clear , just needs the HDD caddies removing. I think the key thing with the O11 to get them looking nice is to have AIO at the top and the 3 fans on the side to cover the blank area. If you speak to OCUK make it clear what your preference is for placement of AIO.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x Lian-Li ST120 Addressable RGB 120mm White Fan with Controller - Triple Pack= £26.99
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,347.76
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:Lian-Li GALAHAD AIO 360mm High Performance RGB CPU Water Cooler - White
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Phanteks RGB LED Strip Starter Kit (PH-LEDKT_CMBO)
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Midi-Tower - White Window
    • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Vision OC 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,390.65 (includes shipping: £15.90)​
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PC above would look very similar to the one you linked. Key difference is the move to Ryzen 3 5800x with better psu, more ram and faster main SSD and large HDD for storage. Has 3 matching fans to the Galahad AIO cooler , they are a bargain and come with the Lian Li control box to make controlling RGB easier. If OCUK will fit the fans for you then you would not need to touch a screwdriver at all. The build above also has the 3070 Gigabyte Vision gpu so approx 10% slower than 3070ti in the other builds we have linked but has similar looks as in the pc you linked.

Ring up and see what they say. Is impossible to expain everything.
 
Haz123 said:
If you go with an O11 I do not think there is a way you can avoid using a screw driver yourself and get it full of fans like the pics we have shown. Maybe rethink and go for a Corsair 5000X like Craig has. If you chose that case you can just pick the AIO you like and then get 3 extra fans to fill the build out. No need to use a screwdriver yourself and no extra adapters needed afaik.
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Morning all, had my covid booster which hit me for 6 over the weekend...Haz, the above made me chuckle. To be fair, if you went with the 5000X case and used the 3 front fans that came with the case, and stuck a 360mm aio on the top, then use of a screwdriver is minimal. Taking the side shield off to add the side fans meant dismantling pretty much everything including the cable management part at the back, where the screws were beneath it. A bit of a faff but worth it. dzwYCzJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VT6grlM.jpg[/img]'] VT6grlM.jpg
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Hello Everyone

I hope you are feeling better today Craig

Thank you Haz123 for your new post

Looking at your set up there, that looks very similar to the Corsair one I was looking at yesterday. Yours has more fans. I really like the cool white. Can I post just the spec of the one I have seen without any advertising so you can see it and ask overclockers to quote?

Thanks Again
Peter
 
last one turned the outer rings off, so more like the fans that come with the case. Still haven't taken plastic peel off yet so will look better when that's done, but after we move house.
I agree with Haz about other build you put up. If spending that much then at least go alderlake. also, it only come with a 240mm aio on top which looks a bit odd to me when it can fit a 360, and is clearly meant to.
If going corsair cases 5000X like I have is great, or the 5000D airflow. if you go for the obsidian 500SE rgb, it comes with 3 LL120 fans at front(similar the the QL's I have but the light rings are only on the front, with QL's front and back. I think it can only take a 240mmaio on top also.
I was looking at either the 011D XL or 5000X. I actually had the XL here, but never took it out as got the 5000X for £120 when dropped in a sale, which covered the cost of a triple pack QL's compared to the XL case. I like them both as they give flexibility, with plenty of space so no need to worry about length of GPU etc.

So with you build/prebuild, really decide what case you want 100% first. Seems to me your leaning for the 011D which is fine. That narrows down your prebuilds. Also , as a side note, have you actually asked OCuk what they would charge to build it for you if you just chose all the components that you wanted? hopefully, if buying everything through them they should hopefully give you access to some of their gpu's they keep for prebuilds only. I think they built a pc from scratch when Warren Davis visited to buy his son a custom pc for his b'day(looked like it from the youtube vid anyway)
Then choose the fans you want. If going corsair, I recommend the QL120's for the wow factor..yes, you can get better airflow fans etc, but with 9 fans in a case, I don't think airflow and cooling is a problem. They cost a lot though, £99 per triple pack, but maybe black fri they'll drop the price back to £75(cost I paid). to be fair, the fans that come with the 5000X are good too. With lian li fans I would have gone with the uni fans, for the convenience of the daisychaining and ease of instillation. Though if OCuk building it, then choose whatever you want..the st fans Haz put in are a lot cheaper, and when getting a few, makes a difference.
Once we get the 100% look you want then we can search for the pc, with option of either alderlake or ryzen..assuming with budget you were looking at either 12700K or 5800X... and GPU (my pref would be a 3080/6800Xt at the prices you were looking at but at least 3070ti)
But ask OCUk first about just choosing all components and letting them build it. When's your son's b'day?
 
Foxcatcher said:
Hello Everyone

I hope you are feeling better today Craig

Thank you Haz123 for your new post

Looking at your set up there, that looks very similar to the Corsair one I was looking at yesterday. Yours has more fans. I really like the cool white. Can I post just the spec of the one I have seen without any advertising so you can see it and ask overclockers to quote?

Thanks Again
Peter
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Hi Peter, yes thanks, much better today thanks. Yup, you can put spec up with price, just don't say where it's from. Definitely no harm in asking OCUK. If I was running a pc shop and someone came with spec and asked to quote, I'd feel a bit foolish turning them away
 
Hello Again

I have just spoken to Overclockers and they have said that the build cost would be £100-200. They can add extra fans at a cost of £10 per fan

I have also asked about cases and I can add any case that is not in the configurator. Maybe that is the same for components as well?

They said I could have a lian li dynamic with the rapier spec for example.

Does this change your ideas now I can choose fans and they will fit them and any case? If the computer works out a little more expensive than I will stretch as its a long term purchase.

My sons birthday is the 12th of December. But he knows it could come a little bit after his birthday because its so near Christmas and companies get busy.

Craig can I ask how much the components roughly cost for your build?

Thanks

Peter
 
The Rapier is cheaper because it is a good bundle deal of components. If you can build from scratch then I would not choose the Asrock mobo they use in the Rapier and I would certainly change the psu to a better unit.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/35238995

My advice has not changed from that build. They will charge you £30 to fit the fans and you are all set. The only change you may want to consider is the gpu and thats complex with 3070/3070ti/3080 all being good choices but they get more expensive the better the performance, a lot more expensive. 3080 only really makes sense if you are gaming at 4K resolution.
 
I am going to post this spec of the corsair build computer I saw yesterday for your comments.

I now think it would be between this (get it built by overclockers), Craigs build or get something built in the lian li on your recommended specs and extra fans added by oveclockers

ore Count 8 Cores
Memory Technology DDR4
Memory Size 16 GB
Processor Model AMD Ryzen 7
Memory Speed 3600 MHz
Colour Black
Processor + Core Count AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core (3.8GHz, turbo to 4.7GHz, 36MB cache)
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengence RGB PRO SL DDR4 3600MHz
Graphics GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
Solid State Drive 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Corsair Force MP600 1TB M.2 2280 PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD)
Hard Drive 1TB HDD (Seagate BarraCuda)
Operating System Windows 10 Home
Network Card Realtek® 8125B 2.5Gbps LAN
Wireless LAN Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200
Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.1
Sound 7.1 Channel Chipset integrated by Realtek® ALC1200
Power Supply Corsair RM850 850W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular PSU Power Supply
Dimensions 520mm x 245mm x 520mm
Chipset AMD X570
Featured Brands Featuring MSI & Corsair
Processor Cooler Corsair ICUE H150i Elite Capellix RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WIFI Motherboard
Motherboard Form Factor ATX
Case Corsair ICUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Gaming Case with SP120 RGB Elite Fans


Your advice would be really apreciated.

Thanks

Peter
 
Case: 5000X.... £120
Motherboard: B550 Rog strix E gaming £136
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X....£315
Ram: 32GB (2x16) DDR4 Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600C18, and 2 light enhancement kit £171 and £28
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3080FE £649
AIO: corsair H150i pro xt(360mm rad) £66...bought from someone stripping out a system for the gpu
Storage: 2TB WD SN850 pcie 4 nvme £280
PSU: Corsair RM1000X £110
Fans: 9xCorsair QL120's £76x3 so £228
Commander Pro (for the fans) £46
So £2,150 roughly....bought it over a few months from various places and during promotions etc...should have waited on the ram but at the time prices for that were through the roof, think OCuk were charging £220. I'd tried to get build to £2k, and already had a set of ql120's I'd bought which were too late to return, and bought the other 2 triple packs during an offer which took me over. if I hadn't of already had a set of ql's I might of got the lian li uni fans for ease/ and I wouldn't of needed the commander pro either I think

below is same build without the gpu and the RAM light enhancement kit . I'm assuming if you gave a system to OCUK they'd let you have access to a gpu from prebuild stock.
If I did build now, it'd be different as prices are different...I mean the 5000X case is readily available for £140 in a few places with free delivery...paying that(£184), I'd switch back to the 011D XL. Some of the prices at the mo are too high. I'm assuming they're up so when black fri comes, they can drop them back down. As mobo is £225 now, I'd switch that out to a X570 board, but I compensated for the B550 1 pcie4 m.2 nvme slot by going for the 2tb SN850, which I got cheap.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,923.43 (includes shipping: £14.70)




or with a 3070ti below

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,924.58 (includes shipping: £15.90)
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Foxcatcher said:
I am going to post this spec of the corsair build computer I saw yesterday for your comments.

I now think it would be between this (get it built by overclockers), Craigs build or get something built in the lian li on your recommended specs and extra fans added by oveclockers

ore Count 8 Cores
Memory Technology DDR4
Memory Size 16 GB
Processor Model AMD Ryzen 7
Memory Speed 3600 MHz
Colour Black
Processor + Core Count AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core (3.8GHz, turbo to 4.7GHz, 36MB cache)
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengence RGB PRO SL DDR4 3600MHz
Graphics GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
Solid State Drive 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Corsair Force MP600 1TB M.2 2280 PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD)
Hard Drive 1TB HDD (Seagate BarraCuda)
Operating System Windows 10 Home
Network Card Realtek® 8125B 2.5Gbps LAN
Wireless LAN Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200
Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.1
Sound 7.1 Channel Chipset integrated by Realtek® ALC1200
Power Supply Corsair RM850 850W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular PSU Power Supply
Dimensions 520mm x 245mm x 520mm
Chipset AMD X570
Featured Brands Featuring MSI & Corsair
Processor Cooler Corsair ICUE H150i Elite Capellix RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WIFI Motherboard
Motherboard Form Factor ATX
Case Corsair ICUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Gaming Case with SP120 RGB Elite Fans


Your advice would be really apreciated.

Thanks

Peter
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what price?
 
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