New Gaming Rig Advice..

Plec · 18 Jan 2018 at 15:41

orbitalwalsh said:
read that your ram on the majority of cases worked with xmp 3200 by having ram voltage at 1.45v

would try that first then see about SOC voltage increase and the CPU OC

Yes, I've built 3 systems with the Corsair (before the 8 pack stuff appeared) - 2 have now hit 3200MHz, one with a minor voltage tweak one just using the XMP - but the other wont budge past 3066MHz without cold boot issues.

So still a bit of a lottery - but the 3200MHz LPX proved to be worth the gamble in most cases - and still may with future BIOS releases.

BeadyRoller · 18 Jan 2018 at 16:18

So what should we try? Shall I bother updating to latest BIOS? (F10)

Plec · 18 Jan 2018 at 16:50

BeadyRoller said:
So what should we try? Shall I bother updating to latest BIOS? (F10)

Set the XMP and then try an initial bump of .05V - so at 1.4V and the SOC voltage at 1.1V

Save and exit and use and abuse - watch for cold boot issues and loops etc...

If that fails try 1.45V - and repeat the above.

marco.da.man · 18 Jan 2018 at 17:09

ive got min set to 1.35 volts running at 3200

Plec · 18 Jan 2018 at 17:11

marco.da.man said:
ive got min set to 1.35 volts running at 3200

Yep - some do some don't using the XMP alone. It's a lottery plus you're running a different board.

EDIT: And different memory if it's what's in your sig - although probably still hynix..

orbitalwalsh · 18 Jan 2018 at 17:52

^^^^ and CPU IMC !!! That's the lotto . Some need more Voltage then others and can handle bit more

BeadyRoller · 18 Jan 2018 at 18:12

Plec said:
Set the XMP and then try an initial bump of .05V - so at 1.4V and the SOC voltage at 1.1V

Save and exit and use and abuse - watch for cold boot issues and loops etc...

If that fails try 1.45V - and repeat the above.

Is this where I change the voltage? Why's it saying 1.200?

BeadyRoller · 21 Jan 2018 at 22:58

Did you see this Plec?

Plec · 21 Jan 2018 at 23:12

BeadyRoller said:
Did you see this Plec?

Sorry missed that.

Go to PC health Status and give me your vCore SOC reading.

We'll then change the Vcore SOC(DVID)(offset) setting depending on what the VCORE SOC reading is (probably 0.9***V).

Plec · 21 Jan 2018 at 23:20

See edit - i need the vCore SOC reading - not Vcore.

Back in 15 minutes - picking up the wife...

BeadyRoller · 22 Jan 2018 at 11:09

There we go.

Plec · 22 Jan 2018 at 11:31

Your SOC is almost at 1.1V already - so just up the DRAM voltage to 1.4V, for now, via the previous screen - save and exit.

Then experiment with 3200MHz.

BeadyRoller · 22 Jan 2018 at 12:49

Done that, did a few cold reboots and now the RAM Speed is back at 2133mhz so it's reset it again.

Plec · 22 Jan 2018 at 13:15

BeadyRoller said:
Done that, did a few cold reboots and now the RAM Speed is back at 2133mhz so it's reset it again.

OK you could try 1.42V - you could creep up to 1.45V but you have Hynix memory so would prefer you stuck closer to 1.4V as possible).

And if you wanted you could set the Dynamic VCORE SOC to +0.02V - which should take your Vcore SOC to 1.1V - you could check this in PC heath after you've saved and exited.

If this fails go back to 1.35V and AUTO SOC and try 3066MHz - this should hopefully work and is at least a slight bump.

BeadyRoller · 22 Jan 2018 at 13:36

Plec said:
OK you could try 1.42V - you could creep up to 1.45V but you have Hynix memory so would prefer you stuck closer to 1.4V as possible).

And if you wanted you could set the Dynamic VCORE SOC to +0.02V - which should take your Vcore SOC to 1.1V - you could check this in PC heath after you've saved and exited.

If this fails go back to 1.35V and AUTO SOC and try 3066MHz - this should hopefully work and is at least a slight bump.

I tried 1.45 and it just reset back to 2133 again. Tried 3066 and again, just reset. Maybe 2933 is the max speed I can get unfortunately?

Plec · 22 Jan 2018 at 14:22

BeadyRoller said:
I tried 1.45 and it just reset back to 2133 again. Tried 3066 and again, just reset. Maybe 2933 is the max speed I can get unfortunately?

Possibly - there are more adjustments you can try - but if it won't hold 3066MHz at 1.45V/SOC 1.1V - i don't think you'll have much luck. :/

I wouldn't lose any sleep at 2933MHz but surprised it wont hit 3066MHz - but 3066MHz is not worth throwing 1.45V at your Hynix, personally.

BeadyRoller · 1 Feb 2018 at 15:27

Plec said:
Possibly - there are more adjustments you can try - but if it won't hold 3066MHz at 1.45V/SOC 1.1V - i don't think you'll have much luck. :/

I wouldn't lose any sleep at 2933MHz but surprised it wont hit 3066MHz - but 3066MHz is not worth throwing 1.45V at your Hynix, personally.

Afternoon Plec. So I am settling on the RAM for now but have just found out about the Ryzen Master software which makes overclocking a hell of a lot easier! At the moment I have just done a little one to 3.8ghz at 1.30v and top temps while running Cinebench were 68 degrees. What shall I try to go to? I didn't want to do anything crazy without speaking to you first.

Plec · 2 Feb 2018 at 12:59

BeadyRoller said:
Afternoon Plec. So I am settling on the RAM for now but have just found out about the Ryzen Master software which makes overclocking a hell of a lot easier! At the moment I have just done a little one to 3.8ghz at 1.30v and top temps while running Cinebench were 68 degrees. What shall I try to go to? I didn't want to do anything crazy without speaking to you first.

I haven't ever used the app (never use them) - i always use the BIOS to OC. Apps tend to be a bit heavy handed when dishing out the volts.

That said 3.8GHz using 1.3V is OK - good even - although there's a slim chance it may have hit it below 1.3V if you tinker (may not - but worth a try). I personally wouldn't go any higher than 1.35V, whatever you decide to go for - but 1.4V is perfectly safe with decent third party cooling. Some users go to 1.4V+ but the minimal gains are not worth it IMO.

I prefer a reasonable balance - a respectable clock with minimal volts. This way you get your 'pound of silicon' from your CPU and still keep things cool and quiet and most of all stable. You can push for it's maximum clock but this will require more volts, heat and for very little gain. Best to find a happy medium...

Anything past 3.7GHz and it becomes a bit of a voltage lottery - and then again, usually, over 3.85GHz. Have a play, watch some some YouTube tutorials. But if you're content at 3.8GHz - (and most would be) - then 3.8GHz @ 1.3V is a nice balance.

OPTIONAL: I would find the minimum volts it will run at 3.8GHz and then build from there - if you want to push higher again. Usually anything over 3.85GHz/3.9GHz you'll start to hit the voltage brick wall - but you may find that you can hit 3.9GHz with relative ease if you're lucky... (Again, i would stick around 1.35V and whatever GHz i could achieve - but if it was only slightly higher than 3.8Ghz - i would be happy with the 3.8GHz with minimal volts.)

Do you still have the stock cooler fitted - I can't remember? If you are still using the stock cooler don't go much higher with the voltage - your temps are good if that is stock.

marco.da.man · 2 Feb 2018 at 14:54

strange how some struggle with ram settings to others

Plec · 2 Feb 2018 at 16:17

marco.da.man said:
strange how some struggle with ram settings to others

Hynix memory does struggle to hit 3200MHz - pot luck whether your sticks go over 2933MHz (a lot hit 3066MHz). Odds are they would go higher with more juice and slacker timings - something i'm considering for beady. But with Hynix memory it's not ideal to throw more than 1.4V at them for 24/7 usage - personally.