New Gaming Rig Advice..

BeadyRoller said:
Don't think it would be the graphics card as it worked fine in my old build and hasn't been really used since then but knowing my luck it will be as I sold it to him!
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May not be - but they can buckle at any given moment. Wouldn't be your fault but appreciate the guilt if it was faulty...

I would still check temps if it's stable enough to get a reading.

You could test the stability of the card in your system?

And if the BIOS environment is stable - flash to the latest BIOS, if it's not already up to date.

If it is up to date try clearing the CMOS and loading optimised defaults then entering the manual settings required - save exit and give it a whirl.

Additional: If he has the SSD I think he has run a health check on it - although wouldn't quite explain the faults he's experiencing.

What make and model is the PSU?
 
I've just ran Cinebench and the GPU didn't get hotter than 45c and didn't crash. CPU got to a high of 60c.

Power supply is a CX 550w. We cleared the CMOS when it was crashing before remember? Seemed to fix it temporarily but it's come back.
 
BeadyRoller said:
We cleared the CMOS when it was crashing before remember? Seemed to fix it temporarily but it's come back.
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Vaguely - was the BIOS up to date if I not would definitely flash to the latest release.

If it is clear the CMOS again as it will do as a stop gap. Applying what was suggested in above post.

I would also try MSI Kombustor and test the cards temp with that.

Then run memtest for an hour or so if that yields nothing definitive.

Brief reply - having heated debate with builders :/
 
Plec said:
4K gaming would make the build pricey as you would ideally pair it with a GTX 1080ti - but GTX 1070s are at an insane price at the moment making the 1080s look relatively good value...

Also, i'm a fan of single card solutions to a PC - and although the 1080ti does the job at 4K it's not as accomplished as GTX 1080 at 1440p - which still looks amazing. Something to consider as would bring build costs down and perhaps stop the thought of SLI at a later date - which i'm personally not a fan of (but i've been out of 'that' loop for a while).

For gaming purposes and a multi table poker the 1600X would suffice - but you could choose to go the extra and get the Ryzen 7 1700/X, but wouldn't be totally necessary. Unless you plan on gaming and playing poker at the same time? But suspect your playing style would come across as 'Maniac' doing this - which may or may not aid you depending on how much you did it. Certainly the unpredictability of your playing style may help if you didn't do it all the time. :)

Monitor wise you would need to make the decision whether a large 16:9 monitor would suffice (or even a couple) or whether you want an Ultrawide. I'm not a fan of ultrawides as you have to move your head when you game - but you may actually benefit from this type of setup for your needs - gaming aside). Coupled with this decision is whether G-sync is important to you - or more importantly whether you're prepared to suck up the cost as it will add considerably more to the price of the monitor in comparison to a reasonable IPS panel at 60Hz.

If you can answer the above and give me an approximate budget i'll cobble together a few example builds for you. If you have further questions after that you will be best served making a dedicated thread as this is Beady's thread - and things may get a little confusing.

You're looking at £1600 - £2500 for the computer for 4K gaming (depending on CPU and future MB and PSU use) and then adding an additional £500 to £1000 for the monitor, depending on what you want.

Basically you could do a build for as little as ~£2300 all-in for a single card solution and standard IPS large 4K monitor. However, if you start to factor in future SLI, a 1700X and a large Gsync/ultrawide then you start approaching £3000 - £3500.

Decisions...
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Hey dude thanks for taking the time to help, no i cant game and play poker at the same time ;) I'm in love with the 34" Rog monitor nut i'm aware a new one is released soon, G-sync is a must i had it before and was very impressed with it, like 3k max not including the monitor but im open for best bang for buck components, I've learnt from my last build you don't need to spend a fortune to get a good PC. Interested in small form factor as last time I had the 900d and too much hassle moving it around
 
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So, this is my first time posting and actually first time building a casual level "gaming/office" PC. Currently own a PS4 and i am more than happy with that standard of gameplay, so i am not looking for a 4K PC etc.

I am hoping to pick peoples brains on the hardware options i have decided to go for, bare in mind that i have a max budget of £500 but the lower the better.

Case: CiT G Force Midi Tower (34.99)
Power: 500W CiT active PFC (24.98)
Motherboard: Asus A88XM-Plus (70.99)
APU: AMD A10-7890K (134.99)
RAM: 16GB DDR3 (£50, off a friend)
HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda (40.07)
Network: Edimax EW-7811DAC (19.49)
DVDRW: 24x LG GH24NsD1 (11.99)

Total: £387.50

----> Possible extra GPU, Radeon R7 250 2 GB (65.99)

Final Total: £453.49

What do people make of that build? I am not sure on the GPU, would that be compatible with the built in R7 within the APU for crossfire.

Apologies for my ignorance, this is all new to me but hopefully i can learn some more information.
 
/Off topic Hi Beady - this has probably woken you up :)..

@Nixond1 You would be better served going for an AM4 build and dropping to 8Gb of memory to keep within budget (you could upgrade to another 8Gb later).

The 1200 will clock within 1300X on the stock cooler - and will clock within the same clocks of the 1300X with a £30 aftermarket cooler.

The case i added was for example purposes and does't come with an optical slot - but i personally would get an external drive to keep the clean lines of the case and plug in the drive when needed (unless you use one all the time in which case - pick a different case.)

The other advantage of the AM4 socket is that it will be supported for another ~4 years where as your listed board is EOL. It will also take all flavours of Ryzen so upgrading would be a simple process.

*Note that the Ryzen CPU does not have a built in GPU - it will require a GFX card immediately.

**Additional: Whatever you decide to do don't buy that CiT PSU it's an awful budget PSU.

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Thanks for the advice, that set up looks really good and does make total sense to go for the DDR4, future proofs the whole system. What is view on the 1300X?

Also, would adding the Zotec GTX 1050Ti OC 4gb be a decent choice for the GPU? Yes it might take me slightly over but to be able to easily upgrade it makes it a lot cheaper.
 
Nixond1 said:
Thanks for the advice, that set up looks really good and does make total sense to go for the DDR4, future proofs the whole system. What is view on the 1300X?
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You can - but the 1200 will clock to 1300X performance. But then the 1300X will clock again a bit more with the supplied stock cooler. However, with a semi-decent third party cooler both chips will clock very close to each other - making the 1200 great value (third party cooler £30 - but you would need to push/balance a high clock)

Basically, if you're keeping the stock cooler on either - then the 1200 will clock to 1300X for gratis and the 1300X will clock on its stock cooler, making it faster again.

Or, if you don't fancy clocking - the 1300X makes sense if you can afford it and on a budget, plus you could clock it at a later date when you feel more confident.

Nixond1 said:
Also, would adding the Zotec GTX 1050Ti OC 4gb be a decent choice for the GPU? Yes it might take me slightly over but to be able to easily upgrade it makes it a lot cheaper.
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Yes the 1050ti is a solid choice for 1080p on a budget - performs remarkably well for the money.
 
Well, it looks like i might of sorted the system then. I have decided to squeeze in the 1300X, along with the 1050Ti. The only things that i have changed are the following:

PSU: EVGA 500W 80+
Motherboard:ASRock AB350M Pro4
Memory: 2x4GB Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX black, 2400Mhz
Case: CiT Dark Soul Black Mid Tower (As i liked the Bay and the window :D)

All together it comes in just a little bit over at £550, but i feel with the up to date hardware that should keep me going for a long time and reduce the future cost of any upgrades.

Hopefully order the parts as soon as they all come in stock!!

Thanks a lot for the advice, cannot wait to get it built.
 
Nixond1 said:
Memory: 2x4GB Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX black, 2400Mhz
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You ideally need 3000MHz memory minimum - Ryzen loves fast memory and performs considerably faster when coupled with the minimum 3000MHz frequency.

I realise it's an added expense but the performance boost is worth the very small extra it would cost.

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Before i seen your basket i had just swapped it out for the exact same 3000Mhz Corsair, worked out about £2 extra. I feel that has sorted it then. :D
 
Nixond1 said:
Before i seen your basket i had just swapped it out for the exact same 3000Mhz Corsair, worked out about £2 extra. I feel that has sorted it then. :D
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Yep - your above spec coupled with a 1050Ti will be tidy spec for the budget and will game very well at 1080p. It's a great bang for buck build.

Enjoy.
 
Hello Plec! I'm back (unlucky haha), hope you had a great Christmas and New Year!

So got a question, I don't think my RAM is running at the right/maximum speed.

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In the BIOS it says under speeds "3200 2133" like that on XMP Profile 1.
 
BeadyRoller said:
Hello Plec! I'm back (unlucky haha), hope you had a great Christmas and New Year!

So got a question, I don't think my RAM is running at the right/maximum speed.
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Hey Beady - ditto and I hope all is well with you and yours.

Have you experienced any strange reboots/shutdowns? I think we left it running at 2933MHz - and there's been a couple of BIOS/AGESA updates for your motherboard since we last played with your system. It may be prudent to update - but we'll see if we can get your memory up to speed first and see if everything is stable.

Pop into the BIOS and apply the below - it should seem familiar - and then run CPU-z and chceck out frequency in the memory Tab:

  • Select M.I.T. Tab
  • Select Advanced Frequency Setting
  • Scroll/Find X.M.P. (Extreme Memory Profile)
  • Click and select Profile 1
  • you should then be able to adjust the multiplier to 29.33
 
Plec said:
Hey Beady - ditto and I hope all is well with you and yours.

Have you experienced any strange reboots/shutdowns? I think we left it running at 2933MHz - and there's been a couple of BIOS/AGESA updates for your motherboard since we last played with your system. It may be prudent to update - but we'll see if we can get your memory up to speed first and see if everything is stable.

Pop into the BIOS and apply the below - it should seem familiar - and then run CPU-z and chceck out frequency in the memory Tab:

  • Select M.I.T. Tab
  • Select Advanced Frequency Setting
  • Scroll/Find X.M.P. (Extreme Memory Profile)
  • Click and select Profile 1
  • you should then be able to adjust the multiplier to 29.33
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Haven't had any odd restarts no. I did set it to 32.00 trying to get to that magic 3200 and thought it had worked but obviously it didn't and reset it to 2133 even though in BIOS it said "3200 2133". Weird.

I have just changed it to 29.33 and that has worked, speed is back up to 2933mhz now so maybe I should stick with that even though I want that elusive 3200 haha. I think I'm up to date on BIOS updates, I'll go check.
 
BeadyRoller said:
Haven't had any odd restarts no. I did set it to 32.00 trying to get to that magic 3200 and thought it had worked but obviously it didn't and reset it to 2133 even though in BIOS it said "3200 2133". Weird.

I have just changed it to 29.33 and that has worked, speed is back up to 2933mhz now so maybe I should stick with that even though I want that elusive 3200 haha. I think I'm up to date on BIOS updates, I'll go check.
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is the chip overclocked ?

might need to bump up SOC voltage to 1.18/1.2 ?
Ram to 1.45v
 
orbitalwalsh said:
is the chip overclocked ?

might need to bump up SOC voltage to 1.18/1.2 ?
Ram to 1.45v
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He's not clocked yet - or wasn't.

He's got Corsiar Hynix memory - he should hit more than 2933 with BIOS updates but may struggle hitting 3200Mhz - although a .1V bump over stock may help :)

Have you experienced any cold boot issues Beady as it had reset itself - or a boot loop?

BeadyRoller said:
Haven't had any odd restarts no. I did set it to 32.00 trying to get to that magic 3200 and thought it had worked but obviously it didn't and reset it to 2133 even though in BIOS it said "3200 2133". Weird.
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Ah, that will have been the cause - you need the new BIOS and even then perhaps some tweaking with voltages.
 
Plec said:
He's not clocked yet - or wasn't.

He's got Corsiar Hynix memory - he should hit more than 2933 with BIOS updates but may struggle hitting 3200Mhz - although a .1V bump over stock may help :)

Have you experienced any cold boot issues Beady as it had reset itself - or a boot loop?



Ah, that will have been the cause - you need the new BIOS and even then perhaps some tweaking with voltages.
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I currently have BIOS version F9d, newest is F10, is it worth updating it?

When I did it which was going back a month or so, it did do a couple of boot loops when I first did it but then settled so I thought it was stable at 3200 but obviously it didn't work and reset it to 2133.

I'm looking at maybe doing a slight overclock on my Ryzen 1700 as well..
 
BeadyRoller said:
I currently have BIOS version F9d, newest is F10, is it worth updating it?

When I did it which was going back a month or so, it did do a couple of boot loops when I first did it but then settled so I thought it was stable at 3200 but obviously it didn't work and reset it to 2133.

I'm looking at maybe doing a slight overclock on my Ryzen 1700 as well..
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some have found it helpful but mainly for upcoming Ryzen+ cpu.

read that your ram on the majority of cases worked with xmp 3200 by having ram voltage at 1.45v

would try that first then see about SOC voltage increase and the CPU OC
 
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