New look England squad (vs Hungary 11/08/10)

Goal line technology PUULEEASE

After the Lampard goal in WC and now that. Lmao.

Alright game i guess, nothing to get excited about. Just a run out for the youth.
 
I thought we were below average to be honest (ignore the 2 goals and you arent left with much substance) - yes we created chances but it was against Hungary in a friendly - little learnt other than some players sometimes perform, youth more than the established players it seems...

Was nice to see Liverpool Gerrard turn up for once, though Rooney seems to be quickly replacing him for England - puts in 110% effort but usually in the part of the pitch where the main ST shouldnt need to be - thats just indicative of how we play when he always seems to need to take the game by the scruff of the neck every time rightly or wrongly...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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We play a pub team and everyone wants to comment on how well Gerrard or Zamora has played etc etc.

We have been here time and time again, looking reasonable for 45 minutes against teams that wouldn't qualify for a world cup if you doubled the spaces.

Hopefully we can get some decent friendlies instead of playing teams that Notts forest would beat.

Gerrard didn't turn up anymore than he did for the world cup, we just played utter drivel for a team and we still only managed to do that for 45 minutes.
 
I'm principally just saying this to rile drunkenmaster, but on last night's showing Walcott was better than Ashley Young. Walcott made several great crosses in the first half (particularly the pick out of Adam Johnson who shoulda scored) and Young overhit most of his.

the overall performance was OK, far from convincing defensively, but at least there was pace in the team, and we were relatively dynamic going forward. I'm very pleased to see us try 4-5-1/4-2-3-1/4-3-3 whatever you want to call it, and I hardly saw a hopeless long punt all evening which was nice. However dannyjo is right, there's no point be able to play like that against Hungary, we need to play that way in big tournaments against big sides. Germany and Spain stuck to their attractive attacking games throughout the world cup and both enjoyed success, we have to emulate them...
 
Capello really is such a moron. It's on Sky Sports News that he's just said Beckham is out of the squad, but Capello has admitted he hasn't even spoken to him yet, instead going straight to the media about it.

Jesus, that's just a horrible thing to do.
 
He didn't go straight to the media, he was asked in an interview which was aired before yesterdays game and gave a really weird answer.

"Thank you, you helped me in South Africa but from now on thank you"

Or something along those lines to which the reported asked so no more Beckham for England then? Capello replied, "Thankyou"
 
It was a bit obvious tbf, plus the media asked him about it, he answered, no big deal?

It's time the younger generation came through.
 
TBH if Beckham wants to still be part of england he needs to stop play tin pot football in america and prove his ability and level regularly for a top flight club.

Then I'd still keep him in a squad of 22 to provide something when we are desperate.
 
I would argue that scholes even though he's crap these days is still atleast playing full seasons of top level football. Though saying he's too old doesn't make sense. He should just say he would consider him if he was playing at a high enough level.
 
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I'm principally just saying this to rile drunkenmaster, but on last night's showing Walcott was better than Ashley Young. Walcott made several great crosses in the first half (particularly the pick out of Adam Johnson who shoulda scored) and Young overhit most of his.

the overall performance was OK, far from convincing defensively, but at least there was pace in the team, and we were relatively dynamic going forward. I'm very pleased to see us try 4-5-1/4-2-3-1/4-3-3 whatever you want to call it, and I hardly saw a hopeless long punt all evening which was nice. However dannyjo is right, there's no point be able to play like that against Hungary, we need to play that way in big tournaments against big sides. Germany and Spain stuck to their attractive attacking games throughout the world cup and both enjoyed success, we have to emulate them...
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Just to point out, Ashley Young went out of the game with TWO ASSISTS, Walcott, with nothing. Walcott was on the ball more than Young, infact the majority of the play went down the right wing in the first half, and ONE average PASS, it wasn't a cross, doesn't equate to several great crosses. THe crosses he did were all, pathetic, dinked little balls, that all hit the first defender and got no where near Rooney. THe stupid commentator managed to say, it was a great cross if someone was on the near post. A great cross includes looking up, seeing where people are and finding a player, when you don't look up and don't find a player, its not a good cross. We palyed one upfront, so there wasn't a second striker, which meant it was even more crucial to look up and see where Rooney was, he found no one with a cross, he got one lucky pass to Johnson, if you noticed I said it was harsh on Walcott that the only good thing he did had Johnson fluff it completely, though it was hilarious.

Also that pass came about because they were all pushing out from a corner, weren't an organised back 4, and we got a lucky interception and caught them completely unaware, but thats also why I said Johnson missed his only real chance, badly, with no pressure, and didn't have a good game.

I still struggle to see where the "youth" did great in that game. Zamora, Gerrard played well, Theo was completely crap(a great winger will create 10-20 chances for the team, not one, from a lucky situation), Johnson did nothing of note, Young did great, he's 25, Gibbs admittedly was very good. So I would suggest one youth player, out of what, 17 players on the pitch, put in a great showing. Exactly how is that the youth players doing great? Even if you magically, and daftly think Johnson and Theo were great, thast 3 out of 17 players, and none were really involved with the goals at all.

EDIT:- The reason Young was very good, is he puts real bite into his crossing, low hard and normally curling, these dinked slow incredibly easy to defend "crosses" Theo does are just so tame theres no danger, they were all easily dealt with, without mistakes being made. Young curls them into a dangerous area where a defender trying to take it away from an England player could very easily have put it in his own net, theres a reason he's been one of the highest assist makers in the league over 5 years, and why he's the highest assisting English winger most seasons. Smacking it high, long and slow is easy to defend, and anyone can kick a ball with no real thought.
 
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how was the first Gerrard goal assisted by Young, it came to Gerrard via a Hungarian player! And the second he had to beat about 4 men after the pass!
 
Young on the left and Johnson on the right definitely has to be the preffered options for the wings now. Walcott did look alright against Hungary but its hard to look bad against a team like that, although he put in a few crosses that weren't as horrible as usual they weren't the best of balls apart from the one were Johnson should have scored.

Players like Walcott and Lennon shouldn't start the game they should be impact players that run against tired defenders which can lead to more chances because I feel Young and Johnson have far better technical ability.
 
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