Dan Corbett? The BBC weatherman? What has he got in common with Hitler, Fred West and Gary Glitter
New look England squad (vs Hungary 11/08/10)
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Dan Corbett? The BBC weatherman? What has he got in common with Hitler, Fred West and Gary Glitter
Would have liked to have seen lampard dropped, it's about time he retired from international football - no doubt everyone will disagree with me though.
Joe hart should have been in goal from the very start of the WC, ashley young and adam johnson should have been in the WC team too, carlton cole....not too sure on, the defence will still be crap though.
Joe hart should have been in goal from the very start of the WC, ashley young and adam johnson should have been in the WC team too, carlton cole....not too sure on, the defence will still be crap though.
Probably because even everton don't know where the hell his best position is. Crist we even played him behind a solo striker. He hasn't played enough football for us really, do you really want another rooney situation?
I'd rather we find his best position and give him more time before Sir Alex starts touching him up.
For the life of me I don't get this milner love, especially on the wing. He made one decent cross. He got in the england team on the strength of a good showing at villa when he was moved to the middle. Either pick him to play in the middle where he has excelled of actually pick a winger.
I love reading the rooney hate, like somehow international level is a step up too far for him. The reality is it's a step down.
Without the injury he would have had a real shout at ronaldos goals for united and the united team has hardly got stronger since ronaldo buggered off.
Then you have people calling for zamora, a player that crumbled at any opportunity of pressure and has only ever looked good in small teams.
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I agree, international level is a step down, Rooney was crap, but the team was just poo, everyone knew the team was poo and no one plays well like that, and frankly once you don't see the ball for 70minutes, when you finally get it chances are the pressure of basically having to score the first time you see the ball gets to EVERYONE.
However, Rooney started 1 more game than Ronaldo did in his 42 goal season, infact the stats are semi interesting.
Ronaldo started 1 less game, 3 sub appearances though, not sure about minutes on pitch. THey both, somehow had 182shots in their seasons, which is rather insane its identical. However Rooney had 58 on target, Ronaldo had 109 on target, which is also pretty insane, shots to shots on target ratio is ridiculous. He scored 5 more goals in the league in that time and got 4 more assists.
Rooney scored 40 all told, in 50 starts, with 6 for England against no ones, Ronaldo had 46 starts, 42 goals, and none for country, all for United and against better opposition.
The most Rooney could have done is start 6 more games, theres no way in hell he would have gotten 5 goals and 4 assists, he wasn't close to beating Ronaldo on goals scored and played more than Ronaldo's 42 goal season. You did say goals for Utd, with more time on pitch, though close, Rooney scored 34, Ronaldo scored 42, not far off a 1/3 more goals again, and more assists, Rooney wasn't close and there literally weren't enough extra games he could have played to beat him, and in doing so he would have played 6 more games in top.
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Not really any more though, if he was going to crumble, he would have at any european game last season, but he would have probably scored a goal a game if he didn't get injured during it. If he was called up before last season, I'd probably agree that the choice is bad as he simply wasn't scoring enough, as good as his all round play is. But if he wants to play the same style with a big man upfront, Zamora is probably the best available.
Now watch Zamora miss open goals left, right and centre now I've said this
Now watch Zamora miss open goals left, right and centre now I've said this
When the ball hits your head and your sitting in row Z, thats Zamora!
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He looks identical this preseason, to last years preseason, I see incredibly little difference if any since he's been at Bolton.
Should he be in the England setup, maybe, maybe not, its a bit pointless as England suck and I'd prefer he wasn't risking injuries, he's without question ahead of Theo and a couple others there in quality, and looks more promising than most of the England midfielders, but England aren't going anywhere so just seems worthless.
There were glaring, massive problems with the England squad in the world cup, DM, CB, right back, Gerrard being utterly incapable of playing the role he's been given(which is about the single most disruptive thing anyone can do within the team on the pitch), and the wingers being largely crap.
With his fantastically different squad, he's brought in a couple new wingers, if he plays Theo and Milner, they will be worse than the world cup though, if he plays Young and Wilshire, they'd be better than the world cup pair. However, CB, Right back, DM and Gerrard were the biggest problems, of which none are fixed.
But we'll spank Hungary, and Capello will deem the squad fixed, as will half the press, half of them will say it was Hungary and we didn't look great with the win. Then we'll play a couple qualifiers against god knows how crap teams, beat them and most of the media will be swayed.
and how many minutes did either play with a serious ankle injury........
Rooney wins that one hands down, which make most of those "stats" pretty pointless
Ronaldo DID score for his country in Sep & Oct 2007 for Euro 2008 quali against Poland and Khazakstan
- according to Wiki anyway
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and how many minutes did either play with a serious ankle injury........
Rooney wins that one hands down, which make most of those "stats" pretty pointless
Ronaldo DID score for his country in Sep & Oct 2007 for Euro 2008 quali against Poland and Khazakstan
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=22774&cc=5739
I tend to go by that simply because it classes it the same for all players, and has decent stats for all years. The point being, he scored 42 goals in the space of a single season for Utd alone, Rooney scored 40 goals in the same space, but that includes 6 goals for England, Rooney scored 34 goals for Utd, in more games than Ronaldo played, and Rooney still only missed 6 games in the league, he couldn't have played 7 more games in the league, and the chance of him scoring 8 goals, and getting 4-5 assists to "beat" Ronaldo that season, were smeg all.
Whichever way you cut it, he played more and scored significantly less for Utd, he didn't come close to beating Ronaldo's 42 goals, and wouldn't have without an injury, he still wouldn't have played all 38 games, and he wasnt' going to get 8 more goals in the season.
AS for Rooney winning the stat of most minutes played with a serious ankle injury, well, if you know the stat, go for it, I seem to remember it effecting him for a few games, and it didn't effect him that much. Do you know how many minutes Ronaldo didn't play at his best? Minutes on pitch, vs goals, Ronaldo ate Rooney alive, if both had played all 38 games, the gap would have been bigger frankly.
They had the SAME number of shots, and Ronaldo scored almost a 30% more goals. How by any of these measures can you say Rooney would have scored more, if he didn't have injuries.
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No comment on the squad till post-game, but looking forward to settling down and watching this with a beer tonight .
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lol yeah Wilshere hasn't improved at all in a year...nonsense
His decision making is much improved, before he had a tendency to try spectacular things as if he had a point to prove, and he could be wasteful, he looks much more mature this pre-season.
You can tell that since he's been playing and training with a proper Premier League side as opposed to youth-team/reserves, he's learnt how to play against the more physical players. You see him using his positional sense and movement to give himself space early, so that diminuitive frame doesn't become an issue. Obviously he's not going to get much bigger in terms of height, but he does look stronger and...well...like he's had a year to refine his whole game really.
I'd be delighted to see him get on the pitch tonight, it's about the only reason I can think of to watch the game. Also it'd be interesting to see when the last time it was Arsenal had 3 players in an England squad... probably have to go all the way back to Seaman, Adams & Keown.
His decision making is much improved, before he had a tendency to try spectacular things as if he had a point to prove, and he could be wasteful, he looks much more mature this pre-season.
You can tell that since he's been playing and training with a proper Premier League side as opposed to youth-team/reserves, he's learnt how to play against the more physical players. You see him using his positional sense and movement to give himself space early, so that diminuitive frame doesn't become an issue. Obviously he's not going to get much bigger in terms of height, but he does look stronger and...well...like he's had a year to refine his whole game really.
I'd be delighted to see him get on the pitch tonight, it's about the only reason I can think of to watch the game. Also it'd be interesting to see when the last time it was Arsenal had 3 players in an England squad... probably have to go all the way back to Seaman, Adams & Keown.
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Sky has this as England's starting XI in their preview of the game:
Hart, Johnson, Dawson, Terry, A.Cole, Milner, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Rooney, Zamora.
Deeply uninspiring stuff; looks like the same formation that failed in South Africa with Gerrard wide left..great. Might tune into the second half to see if young master Wilshere gets a sub appearance
Hart, Johnson, Dawson, Terry, A.Cole, Milner, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Rooney, Zamora.
Deeply uninspiring stuff; looks like the same formation that failed in South Africa with Gerrard wide left..great. Might tune into the second half to see if young master Wilshere gets a sub appearance
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Back five looks fine and is arguably better than any of the back five combinations we played at the WC. It's the midfield and attack that look horrific yet again. No width, very little pace and players out of postion again. Capello needs a smack tbh.