New Mac Products 7th August

lemonkettaz said:
the basic fact remains,

they are well behind in terms of hardware cutting edge. whether they play games or do intense 3d/graphics etc.

there is no option other than macpro if you want something with power, everything else is substandard for the prices.
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the mac pro is sub-standard for the price if you think about it. the basic one starts at £1,699 or something silly.
 
They would never let OSX go the same route as windows....

Windows is a great operating system, thats after you have formatted it and reinstalled from a pc bought from a shop.

If microsoft kept their OS for machines they build only.. windows would be amazing.

The only reason OSX is so good is because its only on apple machines.
 
daven1986 said:
the mac pro is sub-standard for the price if you think about it. the basic one starts at £1,699 or something silly.
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Yeh thats true.. but its the only machine that offers real power from its hardware. Yeh the price is hideous in terms of other options
 
lemonkettaz said:
They would never let OSX go the same route as windows....

Windows is a great operating system, thats after you have formatted it and reinstalled from a pc bought from a shop.

If microsoft kept their OS for machines they build only.. windows would be amazing.

The only reason OSX is so good is because its only on apple machines.
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very true, as i said on another thread, the fact that windows handles so much different hardware and is still as stable as it is, is i miracle in itself. osx has none of the problems of different motherboards, ethernet adaptors, sound cards, gpus, cpus etc. as it is all made to work.

im not knocking windows, it must be doing something right - i have been with it for over 12 years, but osx really is nice! but they'll never get the games without the market share, and games are a big market too. directx is the main thing windows has going for it.
 
After having looked at the new keyboards, I'm quite annoyed at the wireless one, not for losing the numpad as such but for the FN key, I'm going to go have a play as soon as possible to see how nice they are but I think I would constantly be pressing the FN key as with on a laptop and that's something I'd have preferred to deal without.

Oh well, we'll see...
 
Interesting to note that the deal Apple struck with EA about bringing games to Mac via Cider at the WWDC has not yet come to fruition. The games like C&C 3, NFS:Carbon, etc. have not yet materialised and should have been launched now. Wonder EA is thinking about this latest round of iMac GPUs. They must be quite gutted because it's not going to showcase their games very well if they stutter and run about 10fps.
 
well any game run via emulation is gonna be pretty bad. not something i'd like to rely on to take market share. people are just going to boot into windows. there is nothing apple can do to stop that.
 
oh, i dont know anything about cider!!

what is it then? some kind of dx alternative?

either way it should have at least a 1950pro or 8600 for the top end machine, and maybe a slightly worse one for the cheaper machines. pcs will have the gaming market as long as they are upgradeable and macs are not.
 
lemonkettaz said:
Yeh thats true.. but its the only machine that offers real power from its hardware. Yeh the price is hideous in terms of other options
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Ha ha. Hideous to you? Even more hideous if you buy Dell.

This stupidity was put to bed last year.

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/features/macproprice/index.php

{tl:dr Mac Pro $1000 cheaper than similarly configured Dell.}

More here

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33576

The prices this year are left as an exercise for the reader.
 
artaxerxes said:
I would be intrigued to see your build... those Xeons!
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Or just use a quad core for the same performance.

Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 250GB 2500JB ATA-100 8MB Cache
£31.99
Antec NSK4400
£39.99
HP DVD 1035i 20x DVD±RW x12 Ram Dual Layer DVD-Writer (Black)
£13.99
Asus GeForce EN7300GT-HTD Silent 256MB DDR2 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express)

£34.99
OcUK 1GB (2x512MB) PC2-6400C5 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Kit
£19.99

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6700 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.66GHz (1066FSB)
£299.99
EVGA nForce 650i Ultra (Socket 775) PCI-Express
£54.99


Total = £595.58

1/3 of the price of a mac pro and ocuk isn't exactly the cheapest supplier either.
 
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You really think Core 2s and Xeons perform the same? Quick, tell the world, this secret has been kept by Intel for far too long.

To buy 2x of the 2.66GHz Xeons that are in the Mac Pro would cost you nearly £800.
 
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