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New R9 290X 8GB cards

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by GodAtum, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. Bonjour

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    I read boom and Kaap's posts with interest, because I know they're totally impartial and speaking from experience.
     
  2. Kaapstad

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    5960X in that one.:)
     
  3. almighty15

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    You obviously don't and it clear you're quite clueless.
     
  4. Kaapstad

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    Thank you for the kind words.

    :D:p:D
     
  5. almighty15

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    All cards have compression, the GTX 690 also uses compression as the GTX970/980, what differs is the quality and efficiency of that compression so when you say this:

    It really does make me smile because it's just completely WRONG...

    From GTX980 reviews across the globe

    So as I said, you're wrong in your assumptions and words.

    All cards have compress the same data sets the 970/980 can, they just do it will effectiveness and efficiency.

    Which is why me and everyone else thought it was pretty funny when you showed memory use in GPU-Z to show this compression... funny... :cool:
     
  6. Kaapstad

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    If you know so much perhaps you can explain how a GTX 980 is faster than a GTX 690 @1080p but slower at higher resolutions. This is despite the fact that in theory the GTX 980 is better specced.

    Before you argue about the above statement remember I own a pair of GTX 690s and some GTX 980s so I know which is quicker.

    I also know why the GTX 690 is faster at higher resolutions but I don't think I will share it with you, perhaps you can answer the question. If you are as smart as you keep saying please enlighten us.:D
     
  7. almighty15

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    The answer is simple, the GTX 980 is not superior to the GTX 690 is every aspect when raw specs are concerned.
     
  8. Kaapstad

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    That does not answer the question

    If you don't know why, it just shows you have not got the faintest idea how the memory works on a GTX 690.
     
  9. almighty15

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    I know how everything works my friend, you're the one that's made inaccurate comments.

    Texture performance, shader ALU, Geometry set-up... The only area a GTX 690 is not superior to a GTX 980 is fill rate.

    That is why a GTX 690 is faster then a GTX 980, nothing at all to do with memory or 'compression' as you seem to be fascinated with at the moment.

    As the resolution increases all aspects of the core logic are stressed, if the GTX 980 hits a shader, geometry set-up or texture bottleneck the GTX690 will pull a head due to higher out put of said performance metrics.

    Fill rate

    GTX690 - 58.6GPixels/s
    GTX980 - 72.1GPixels/s

    GTX980 has a ~19% advantage

    Texture rate

    GTX690 - 234GTexels/s
    GTX980 - 144GTexels/s

    GTX690 has a ~39% advantage

    Floating point arithmetic

    GTX690 - 5.62TFlops
    GTX980 - 4.61TFlops

    GTX690 has a ~18% advantage

    If the GTX690 falls into a scenario where it becomes fill rate bound the GTX980 will pull a head providing it's not texture or ALU bound.

    If the GTX980 becomes texture or ALU bound the GTX690 will pull a head providing it's not fill rate bound.

    Higher specs plus more mature drivers, nothing more and nothing less.
     
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  10. Kaapstad

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    Wrong.

    None of this explains why the 980 is faster than the 690 @1080p and slower at higher resolutions.

    You are going to have to do better than reading the info out of GPUZ lol.
     
  11. almighty15

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    No I'm actually correct.... And I've not got any information from GPUZ.

    That's what you do to show off the compression :rolleyes:
     
  12. Kaapstad

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    I am afraid you are totally wrong.

    To answer the question you need to know exactly how a GTX 690 works which you obviously don't.

    You also need to know how the GTX 690 works with the rest of the PC as well.

    The answer is a real wall of text, or rather it was last time I shared it with someone who had a genuine reason to know.

    I am done with this now you have shown how little you really know about graphics cards as I think this is starting to bore other people silly.

    Please feel free to reply to this if you want the last word as I am done with this topic, just a word of caution though. At some point in the near future I will post a proper thread using a wide variety of cards to show the answer to the question but I suspect that most people will find it quite boring.

    Over to you.....
     
  13. GodAtum

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    Unfortunately I cannot get a titan as Xplane only sees 1 GPU :(
     
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    A Titan is a single GPU card :)
     
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  17. Kaapstad

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    Did someone say benchmark.:D
     
  18. zpaf

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    Stunning [​IMG]