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Tottenham have no beef in midfield.
don't think they need another ballet dancer
don't think they need another ballet dancer
New summer transfer thread
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Like Weringo's said, i think your thinking of Leto. He's a left winger but like Leiva is one for a season or 2's time.peetee said:bugger, i thought leiva was an attacker. Oh well. he did make a few decent crosses, but they were defended well etc, which is going to happen to a lot of them, since no1 usually stands waiting in the box waiting for them since they know theyll go nowhere near
I think our hopes are on the new boys really ...
weringo said:
He didn't dictate too much when he failed ignominiously at the biggest club side in the World, and has since failed to return to a top team - wonder why?
As I said, he is a good player - One of the "top 5 midfielders in the World"? don't think so.
Riquelme has an attitude problem which isn't a good thing when Van Gaal is your manager, which is probably the reason he only started 14 games for Barcelona in La Liga mostly out of position.sandy10 said:
He's played at the highest level for Argentina and been their best player for the last 5 years or so, and he also got Villareal to the CL semi final. I would say he has little to prove as a player.
One of the best (if not THE best at Copa America), dominated the Argentinian league, almost single handedly won Boca Juniors the cup with some absolutely sensational performances.sandy10 said:
I would say Riqueleme is easily playing better now than at any period in the last 3 years.
NokkonWud said:
Nokkon, for goodness sake, the Argentinian league is far from any level of quality - I would question why a player of his age, and supposed class is now looking to move back there permanently, hampered only by Villareals excessive demands.
sandy10 said:
Yet he ran the show for Argentina, who are probably the best attacking side in the world, if not the best full-stop. He is probably in a class of 5 when it comes to the best passers in the world. He's a set-piece master as well as an architect of long and short passes. Any team in the world would benefit a player of Riquelme's calibre.
You say he's not played for another top club, however it wasn't for want of trying. Bid after bid was rejected, the only reason for his sale is due to a falling out between coach and player, so that factored into his price tag of £10m shows just how good he is and how highly he is rated.
sandy10 said:
You seem to misunderstand, Argentinian players don't go back to Argentina because it's easy, they go there because of the passion of the fans, it's almost unmatched by any other country in the world. They don't go there for money etc...
As for Boca Juniors not being of a high standard, I'm afraid you're wrong. Again.
NokkonWud said:
If that's the case, and the fee is only £10m - significantly lower than the £18m paid for Hargreaves for example, and the £50m or so quoted for Kaka, a players eons above him in quality, and "any team in the world would benefit a player of Riquelme's calibre", why is he still at Villareal?
A price tag of £10m+ means nothing, ask Fulham about Steve Marlet.
NokkonWud said:
Somewhat demeaning in your tone.
I understand the passion etc, but at 28-29, he has plenty of time to return there
Boca are undoubtedly a huge club, and have clearly developed a number of fantastic players, but the Argentinian league is certainly not a barometer of quality for a player to return there at his age.
I would suggest Martin Palermo as an example - goal machine at Boca, complete turkey at Villareal and Betis, only to return to Boca and continue in the same scoring vein.
Irrelevant of your views on the quality of Argentine league or the Copa America, in the CA he was Agentina's best player. No matter what you say Argentina had near enough their best squad available and Riquelme was their best player out of all of them. That includes the likes of Tevez, Crespo, Messi etc, Riquelme outclassed them all and it was clear for all to see that he was the player who made them tick.
peetee said:Hummfff, is Leto the Hungarian?
I forgot rafa had bought us two hungarians.
I did genuinly think Leiva(hes the Braz U20 captain right?) was an attacking Midfield
Thanks for correcting mee
Leto is the Argentinian left winger signed from Lanus. He's a big git but is horribly one footed, looks like a player in the Santiago Solari mould, nothing spectacular but a good player none the less, very young still too.....
Leiva is a box to box style midfielder, you can't really class him as a holding player as he has many attacking attributes and shooting ability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bola_de_Ouro <----Check this out...Look at some of the calibre of player on there...massive potential.
sandy10 said:
I wouldn't say any of those players were 'eons' above then in quality.
As for Marlet, the difference there is that his record was crap before he went to Fulham, where as Riqueleme's speaks for itself. Why is he still at Villareal, I already answered that. Read whole posts next time.
Heinze is appealing the decision. I wanted to throw something at the tv when I seen him leave the building on Sky Sports after his meeting, smug Judas that he is. Well he might as well go start a book of sympathy in Liverpool now because there's no way the decision will be overturned.
riquelme would be a good spurs signing as they do lack that spark in midfield i think.
the argument about riquelme's quality is laughable - he is a top playmaker; not an attacking midfielder or midfielder. any team that plays their game through him and with him dictating will see the benefit of him. when argentina got the best out of him, villareal and boca everything went through him.
spurs are one of the only teams i could see him working at - he would combine well with the forwards they have and his passing would free lennon when fit to run into spaces that not many players can create.
despite his age if he gives even two years of top service he would be worth it.
huddlestone and riquelme would be a slow cm pair but with pace to burn up front and on wings it could work.
zokora has been the weak link in spurs style in my opinion; plays the box to box game and as a result does neither well. he looks more suited to the defensive role but lacks the desire of inclination to do it.
the argument about riquelme's quality is laughable - he is a top playmaker; not an attacking midfielder or midfielder. any team that plays their game through him and with him dictating will see the benefit of him. when argentina got the best out of him, villareal and boca everything went through him.
spurs are one of the only teams i could see him working at - he would combine well with the forwards they have and his passing would free lennon when fit to run into spaces that not many players can create.
despite his age if he gives even two years of top service he would be worth it.
huddlestone and riquelme would be a slow cm pair but with pace to burn up front and on wings it could work.
zokora has been the weak link in spurs style in my opinion; plays the box to box game and as a result does neither well. he looks more suited to the defensive role but lacks the desire of inclination to do it.