New system for my lad

[Ramracer99]

There seem to be some teething problems with the new CPUs where they are not performing as expected on Windows, but for now, it looks like for a gamer: not worth it.

If you happen to do something where the new architecture is optimised (e.g. uses AVX512) then they show a nice uplift, but I don't think there are many scenarios that applies (this review is good for that: https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x ).

The 7000 series are due some discounts if you look at prices elsewhere, but not much on offer right now that I can see.

Thank you will have a read / watch .

 

[Ramracer99]

That’s eveything you should need minus operating system right there. Looks a nice spec.

The only thing I’m not sure as I’ve never used that cooler is whether it has thermal paste pre applied or not

Braided cables are usually for looks. The included PSU cables are enough

Thanks Ben , may order a good quality and not sure if it does or does not . Will need to have a closer look .

 

[Ramracer99]

Thanks Ben , may order a good quality and not sure if it does or does not . Will need to have a closer look .

Had a looks don’t see it listed other than accessories , prob get some artic line unless , the more expensive stuff is better , worth the uplift .

 

[Ramracer99]

I think that you would be alright the hardest thing would probably be getting a windows usb installer, unless you have another computer, they do sell win11 dvds here but yeah 100 notes and you need a dvd player in the system

I have a Mac I can run bootcamp on , but having not done a windows installer usb , would need to know formatting type for usb msdos or fat32 , and then what to put onto it ?

 

[Ramracer99]

you will have to make a bootable USB then use the appropiate windows installation creation tool from the windows web site HERE is a link on how to do it on a PC, I have zero clue how you are going to manage to do it on an inferior mac, know anyone with a loaptop you could use for 30 mins( if that)?
when installing you will obviousy have to go into the bios, and make sure that the first boot device is from USB and you will have to choose the correct option to just use an unactivated version of windows, but if you care, you can pay to activate it later on

Just remembered my wife has a new pc laptop I got her for her birthday .

So hopefully that should do it right .

 

[Ramracer99]

Hi guys the motherboard , cooling , and case are all pre order , what does this usually mean these days .

Also is that enough cooling for the tower … sorry for all the questions .

 

[Ramracer99]

If wanting to stick with M-ATX these are worth a look:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-378-MS) = £149.99
• 1 x Antec CX500M RGB M-ATX Mini Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02734) = £59.99

Total: £209.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The above Freezer 36 is fine for a 7800X3D, although I'd be inclined to source a Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin from elsewhere.

In regards to the Thermalright heatsinks, they come with a tube of paste included that's enough for a few applications. The Arctic should come with either a sachet of MX4 or a tube of the stuff, I'm not sure how they go about it exactly with their air coolers.

Therma light phantom , or peerless spirit ?
Why so

 

[Ramracer99]

If wanting to stick with M-ATX these are worth a look:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-378-MS) = £149.99
• 1 x Antec CX500M RGB M-ATX Mini Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02734) = £59.99

Total: £209.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The above Freezer 36 is fine for a 7800X3D, although I'd be inclined to source a Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin from elsewhere.

In regards to the Thermalright heatsinks, they come with a tube of paste included that's enough for a few applications. The Arctic should come with either a sachet of MX4 or a tube of the stuff, I'm not sure how they go about it exactly with their air coolers.

Thanks gray , I was wondering is that sort of money enough for good cooling .

 

[Ramracer99]

Thanks gray , I was wondering is that sort of money enough for good cooling .

Do like the look of the thermalight though ?

 

[Ramracer99]

Also another question , is the alternate motherboard , a good choice (not that I’m questioning it ) just curios if it is a downgrade in anyway .

 

[Ramracer99]

It's about on par with the other, more or less in the same ballpark and would work well with the parts suggested.

Thanks Gray , that info is much appreciated , I’m now being bagged incessantly about getting the stuff , lol.

So read about cooling yesterday , and yes phantom spirit is one of the best in not thee, in the air section.

So going to order that ,

Is the other case much for much, and does it allow for card expansion if they ever get bigger.

Going to order this evening , what I can from here anyway.

Oh sorry one last thing , I have black SSD in our digital ps5s , is the ram beat matching the ssd here , or is that irrelevant , ie did I choose the better of the ram options that you all have suggested .

 

[Ramracer99]

fair enough, I agree that things are worth future poofing,and I don't advocate spoiling the ship for halfpenny of tar, but at the same time, I kinda doubt this pc will ever be, or need to be upgraded, I cannot imagine the game that will need a 10800 at the minimum! I might understand if it was stated that the kid was into vector, or cgi right now, but it just looks like a general use / games machine to me., I do note that he was not specced a pcie5.0 motherboard for the future though. in case he ever needs the 9070 after changing needs

I can assure you he will test it , he wants to run mass units wars of Totally Epic Ultimate Battle Simulator , I think this will push the unit , we’re talking millions of units is his desire . We were watching a 24 million unit battle , the ps 5 struggles to deal with even hundreds of units , causing some crunching…

 

[Ramracer99]

fair enough, I agree that things are worth future poofing,and I don't advocate spoiling the ship for halfpenny of tar, but at the same time, I kinda doubt this pc will ever be, or need to be upgraded, I cannot imagine the game that will need a 10800 at the minimum! I might understand if it was stated that the kid was into vector, or cgi right now, but it just looks like a general use / games machine to me., I do note that he was not specced a pcie5.0 motherboard for the future though. in case he ever needs the 9070 after changing needs

Hi threepwood . Thanks for your input , pcie5 motherboard ?

Edit : just read this, as this has been around since 2019 and we’re just getting product ranges now , ie ssd , rams , boards etc , is the cost v return worth it



https://www.xda-developers.com/pcie-5/#:~:text=PCIe%25205.0%2520or%2520Gen%25205,to%2520a%2520certain%2520extent%2520%E2%80%94%2520GPUs.

 

[Ramracer99]

he's going to test a 10800, are you sure?
edit: maybe you lost the grip of the current conversation before you wrote that, sorry.

Well at least I thought he would be looking over the actual game specs maybe not , what 10800 are you referring to ? I don’t have anything like that listed , do I?

 

[Ramracer99]

Thanks everyone for your input , I think I will cast aside the idea of pcie5 simply as they seem quite cost prohibitive , although I like the idea of maximising ram and ssd , perhaps when they plateau a little on price it may be a consideration .

Another thought I had , was is the wd black ram going operate better with the ssd black than the option I listed , or does this not really matter .

 

[Ramracer99]

It doesn't really matter, and you needn't get too hung up on RAM speed with the X3D variants as they're not overly sensitive to it.

A good cl30-40/6000 set will be fine for around the £80-100 mark.

Thanks gray

Was going to spend a little more for storage purposes , given burgeoning game sizes ,

This looks like final spec , and thanks for suggestions ,

Does this all look decent

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[Ramracer99]

YOUR ORDER​

1 X Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - £99.95
SKU: CA-060-AS

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1 X Asrock B650M PG Riptide (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard - £158.99
SKU: MB-18Y-AK

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1 X Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler - 120mm - £36.94
SKU: COO-TLR-02721

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1 X Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case -£55.00
SKU: CAS-AER-00607

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1 X Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 TI Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card - £779.99
SKU: GRA-ZTC-01497

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1 X NVIDIA - Star Wars: Outlaws Game Bundle -£0.00
SKU: DIG-NVI-03030

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1 X Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 5.5g / 1.5 ml - £19.99
SKU: TH-001-TG

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1 X WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) -£269.99
SKU: HD-592-WD

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1 X AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £329.99
SKU: CP-3DT-AM

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1 X AMD Ryzen - Space Marine & Unknown 9 Awakening Games Bundle - £0.00
SKU: DIG-AMD-02908

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Grand Total: £1,750.84

 

[Ramracer99]

Hoping I never missed anything appreciate I’ll need to seek case and cooling elsewhere .

 

[Ramracer99]

I can't view that link mate, if you go to the basket page click on the "BB Code" button and paste over what's in the box that pops up.

Can you see the list now

 

[Ramracer99]

Aye, that looks good to me mate. You could always add more storage at a later date if you wanted but the SN850X is a solid choice and 4tb will do you well.

Yeah , I’m sure he will clutter it up a bit so may end getting another drive probably the 2tb , that way I may set up installations to the larger drive and run the opsys on the smaller drive , if that would still work rather than partitioning , if that can still be done .

Also how do you get games onto a pc these days is it all download , or use steam et al .