New system for my lad

[Ramracer99]

I run my O/S on a 200gb partition of a 1tb NvME, it's still doable and tbh I'd recommend it. Windows is pretty good now compared to how it was in the past, but sometimes a fresh installation is necessary/easier when troubleshooting and it keeps the rest of your data intact.

Games are mostly installed digitally now, via platforms such as Steam, Epic, and a few others like GoG.

Thanks pal , you’ve been a great help , might be back in this thread for a wee hand , once all the gubbins arrive ,

I struggled to get the case (original aero cool) so just went with the original list bar ram and mb

 

[Ramracer99]

I run my O/S on a 200gb partition of a 1tb NvME, it's still doable and tbh I'd recommend it. Windows is pretty good now compared to how it was in the past, but sometimes a fresh installation is necessary/easier when troubleshooting and it keeps the rest of your data intact.

Games are mostly installed digitally now, via platforms such as Steam, Epic, and a few others like GoG.

Aye always a good way to do it I found . Do it with my Mac now , and a partition for windows boot camp .

 

[Ramracer99]

Always happy to help mate, as are many on here.

Looking forward to seeing the end result, it's one hell of a rig you're building!

Cheers pal, Haha aye he’s a lucky laddie , but he will likely have to give me a shot now and then so I can get a game of C&C if it still exists

 

[Ramracer99]

just when you thought you had got rid of me,

I ordered everything here last night, then called today , and found out they would hold order until everything in stock, but case originally listed is not available

so found this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126189397450?_nkw=Aerocool+Dryft+Mini+v2+Micro-A&itmmeta=01J5XCSXQRZ94Y03SMNT00596K&hash=item1d617965ca:g:LfAAAOSwJ81lVgeE&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABAHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnZUo885aSGpvnolDSDhPv2YJJXVfnk7T9dz%2Bx0zdDprQP4yfV2XSkpXlZa3KVPb1RNTIxljHqu1HZw9xq17UAxkTaEQ1QUreEscAhpzwLu54r4WFmvrX37%2FmGQEyAvUX92uExIYXXyAXFUoldKovxlHhmPIabhA6rHMMGHydYkHtZvlw9nQLCQphYG3V3MR2w46ztiXgGCmzlEj3FEow4EcEDOuK%2BZpPI9jxH5TTnBeyhpFHTUZyRyDX58oijA7ai55KXYHk3Lc3ZGHVGVAm3EIDj6%2BonFmmwSVX1Qnq3NNRMLbivjP3hJVeYPtlcbhNo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7Tc56yvZA


Also ordered a Thermalright PS120 from ebay seller, not cheap 57 , but guess it is ok , then panicked , thinking as it never said phantom spirit (did say PS120) it was wrong , is this the right thing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387019844957?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D271284%2C271338%26meid%3D953473db603e4de888ef91cab93c2f06%26pid%3D101875%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D266943453828%26itm%3D387019844957%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimVIDwebV3WithCPCExpansion%26brand%3DThermalright&_trksid=p2332490.c101875.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A387019844957953473db603e4de888ef91cab93c2f06%7Cenc%3AAQAJAAABMKAOBbj8c9I6eO4vPyI9FfMl8NhNqsULUU1TfDUZ7khlfQoTWMK19Y73bjp024DGkuEBy6296yMbVEUMtnqKl1YibaLlZjZCFjJT1b5gKC0UidhDGz2qOjjI17c2mqyEb1c0CHbCxGX4RDXXN5ZeZE8gwmp7SifH6GsxUcccDaptye8FN1pdU%252B30Zw9CFO7WXDVXltuhLrpyugxhpkobe8VjxMkY3ej1gWGWh1OlnHNkmOtEaLcIJzT%252Bxx9YiMSic%252BFJ7F45MQt6L4zY3jmR4ObNrhPOHmgNuQ9gjXjQ7KQIJ4hXDLG%252BjULkCw19LBDJGzBb3INT4Q77IeJogFIiz0gvaECkshNS14AnjrjbWUiCea2dn%252BV8YTPkON9RAnRI%252FJiHNdJc6CpLuqIc45oNzS0%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01J5XC4SXHQFANECZC1NTTKT03


I will be calling OC again this evening to cancel those two items of the list you kindly helped with here !

But just checking ..

 

[Ramracer99]

I'm not sure why you went to that particular outlet, but just to forewarn you're not allowed to link competitors on here as the forum is owned by the OCUK shop.

The Phantom Spirit 120 is absolutely available for £30-35 elsewhere, despite not being in stock on OCUK.

I'm not sure how much the case is as the link doesn't work, but it is available from other outlets than those you linked for the same price as OCUK.

Thanks for the advice on all fronts grey , well looks like I paid a bit much , and sorry oc , but hopefully I have given them enough runes to be allowed one mistake of forum etiquette .

Any hints as to the other places, I did have a scan via google . But never seen anywhere ?

 

[Ramracer99]

Thanks for the advice on all fronts grey , well looks like I paid a bit much , and sorry oc , but hopefully I have given them enough runes to be allowed one mistake of forum etiquette .

Any hints as to the other places, I did have a scan via google . But never seen anywhere ?

Update think I found it elsewhere , but not listed as v 2 , just argb and not rgb , which was the only diff between 1&2

Would this be correct ?

Spec

Aerocool Dryft ARGB Black Mini Tower Chassis, Addressable RGB LEDs, 4x 120mm + 2x 140mm Fans, mITX/mATX 59S0

 

[Ramracer99]

That should be correct for the case if it's the one you really like.

There's not much between the heatsinks, just go for the cheapest.

I would recommend reading an RGB guide when you set things up though, you don't want to accidentally connect to the wrong headers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/ku117m/a_beginners_guide_to_rgb_in_2021/

This is not enjoyable reading Gray, now I feel I need to look at each item , starting with the motherboard , to check what headers it has , really a standard header would be far better for a simpleton like myself .


So going to have a quick read on the board and fan and case .

 

[Ramracer99]

The motherboard and case has all of the needed headers, everything is compatible.

Looks like case and fan are RGB and not ARGB, so -12v I’ll pay close attention to board book and fan books .

 

[Ramracer99]

The only thing you really need to be careful with is to not connect 3 pin headers to 4 pin and vice versa, but everything necessary is included.

According to the store page the fans are ARGB, but you'll be able to tell when it arrives quite easily.

Thank you gray,


Actually looking at the spec for cooling fan it is ARGB, not RGB, so will def look out for that one , is it generally easy to note, read the tread you linked , as was not that easy to see the difference on the connectors , is this just the supplies from MB, or is there PSU to consider also …

I was also thinking about two other things now the stuff is en route. Bluetoooth connectivity as it seems that is not a thing in the board , and also frontage usb ports , oh and one other thing is there a way to get a LAN splitter of some kind , i have found one on eBay 1 to 2 powered at 1000gb which is what LAN here at home runs at ..? And how woudl that best to use, or is there an internal card option for such things.

 

[Ramracer99]

aye, job's a gud 'un
I've been on unactivated win10pro for over a decade now, no harm, no foul, I'll probably never go to win11 but if I did, i'd go the free unactivated method I don't mind not being able to personalise windows. i just want a working OS, it seems that in unactivated win10 you can personalise things anyway, and, after all this time they ou are running an unactivated windows watermark has disappeared now toot!hough a did run a dodgey program to get rid of that, but I got bit by a windows update that I thought would have brought it back

lol , not sure if i need to buy it we run Microsoft family 365 so i can have it on mac so prob get access to it , not looking forward to learning the shortcuts again, i think I was on either XP or 98 last time I was using it , other tha a brief shot of boot camp for steam for a game for the lad…

 

[Ramracer99]

What do you mean by a LAN splitter? What is the purpose of it?

To split a hard wired lan cable , from one cable to two , ie a 1 to 2 port …

 

[Ramracer99]

To split a hard wired lan cable , from one cable to two , ie a 1 to 2 port …

Yes I did see some this morning , is there any that would go in as a pci card though , to avoid a desktop one ?

 

[Ramracer99]

If you have a device e.g. a router or a NAS, with a LAN port, then you can connect two computers by using a switch.

If you want to connect one computer to multiple devices, you can't split a LAN port, you'd need an additional network card.

Yes that’s what I was thinking of , something like the

Dell TMGR6-LP Broadcom 5719 1GB Quad Port PCI-e Network Card​

Low Profile Bracket ,

But wondered if this would even fit my case / board !

 

[Ramracer99]

no idea mate, i don't give micro$$oft a penny, if you havre a running yearly sub or something for family365, then I'd bet that they are just happy to get that money
I have to ask, why do you pay for 365 if your main computer is a mac?

Run it on my mobile device for business as well , ie iPhone with word on it , rather than just a word viewer , gives me better editing ability

 

[Ramracer99]

It's a gaming rig for his son apparently, I'm both confused and off to bed!

Really no need for confusion , it’s simple , so both his ps and pc can have hard wired connections , and also for an extender for WiFi as well so he can watch his tv through firestick without lag . All without anything having to sit around on top of the rig , or on his desk .

 

[Ramracer99]

I'm assuming that the OP needs two LAN ports for some reason.



So, you have 2x PCI-E slots that are PCI-E version 3.0 and 1 lane. You also have 1x PCI-E slot that is version 4.0 and 4 lanes.

The little slots are directly underneath the graphics card slot, so this might be an issue, depending on how thick the cooler is. The first slot is almost certainly unusable.

Another alternative is to buy a LAN to USB adapter, though I think they may have higher CPU usage than PCI-E devices.

In regards to the Dell you mentioned:
- It looks a bit pricey.
- Are 4 ports really necessary?
- You would need a full size bracket, which I don't know if it comes with because it is labelled LP (low profile) which is a half size bracket.
- I'm not sure how widespread the drivers are for Dell hardware, or how likely they are to be compatible with a regular desktop.

Thanks for the that, may end up sticking with just a 1 to 2 powered type .

 

[Ramracer99]

I’d just screw an external network switch out the way under his desk. If you use an internal card you’re going to need to have the PC on in order to power the card while watching the fire stick aren’t you?

Thank you Ben , That’s a very valid point , had not considered that, will likely do that .

now just waiting on the cooling fan for the cpu and ready to build . So may have enough time to source one .

 

[Ramracer99]

Yeah I think it will be activision for his cod account and hoping to transfer all his purchases over , and also steam for the rest, bar anything new he fancies .

Got all components today and have been reading manual and inspecting stuff , think I will get everything organised .

I am wondering if anyone has a preferred build order when putting things together .

Reading that perhaps when doing the thermal right phantom spirit 120 you need to orientate it a specific way, and slo lift a fan a little to avoid ram touching .

Funnily enough I noticed I had not included ram , so now just waiting on that but from memory , it is usually one of the easiest things to add in ,

So any tips on the build would be appreciated .

Also what’s the consensus on how much paste and application method , as for the kryonaut and will set aside the one that came with the fan . Also on this if I make a bodge , what’s best to clean up with

 

[Ramracer99]

I built my first last November since I was a regular builder as a teenager / early 20’s so probably 15 years.

Storage, coolers and aios were the biggest changes. Watched a pc centric build video on YouTube and if all came flooding back

Been about the same I built for daw mainly before , and done upgrades on builds , feeling a tad nervous , but I’m sure it will be fine just gonna take my time ..

 

[Ramracer99]

Just to note, first boot on AM5 can take awhile so don't panic if things don't immediately happen. The system will power up and you'll see fans spinning etc, but it could take as long as 15-20 mins before things start moving.

Booting up after that point will be more in line with what you're used to with other systems, the first time you do with AM5 it needs to figure out how to use your RAM.

There's a few good video guides out there for AM5 that might be helpful to you, but otherwise take your time and just enjoy the process. @ben1987 advising to install a lot of the components prior to putting things in the case is excellent advice, pop the motherboard on a clean wood surface or even just on top of the box it came in (do not put the anti-static bag under it).

With the Phantom Spirit heatsink, what I'd personally do is install the mounting bracket as per the instructions and then after you've put the motherboard in the case and all other components/wiring etc are in place mount the big lumpy tower cooler to the bracket.

Frankly, people go wild about the perfect way to apply paste but for 98% of users it doesn't matter as long as there's enough coverage between the IHS/CPU and heatsink.

Thanks gray , much appreciated , I will do that most likely .

What is IHS ?


Have another question , and may be something that will cost me more , my lad wants to use

I’ve always done a pea size bit of paste in the middle. Never bothered spreading.

I place the mobo on its box and build as much as possible before it goes into the case

So
CPU
Storage
Ram
Cooler

Into the case
PSU and some of the wiring
Gpu
Finish off wiring

cheers Ben