New World MMO

What happens in a situation like that, is it a hardware fault with the 3090s so the manufacturer is liable or is it a fault of the game so Amazon is liable?

Too early to tell at this point. If it's only EVGA cards that actually break down then more so on the manufacture but a proper investigation into the whole thing will need to be done to find out why other branded 3090 cards are overheating.
 
I'm absolutely loving this game, I'm not going to lie. So far, it's not deserving of the hate it's getting from salty kids that have never experienced older MMOs where the grind is real.

Can you elaborate on what about it you love? I've been trawling through peoples early impressions, which as you can imagine is a mixed bag but each time I find someone who says that its really good they dont then say why, they just say "its excellent" etc and never give any explanation on why. Makes it kind of hard to make an informed decision on the game.
 
Good lord I found this dull. They don't seem to have moved on too far from 'collect 10 pig's ears from pigs, where the drop rate is 0.5 ears/pig'. I feel like a 2021 MMO should be more.

From what I've seen, the friends that like it love the PvP angle, whereas I hate that PvP an MMO.
 
Good lord I found this dull. They don't seem to have moved on too far from 'collect 10 pig's ears from pigs, where the drop rate is 0.5 ears/pig'. I feel like a 2021 MMO should be more.

From what I've seen, the friends that like it love the PvP angle, whereas I hate that PvP an MMO.
PvP is quick and easy ‘content’ that keeps some players busy for weeks and months. Developers spend six months working on a PVE update, rushers blow through it in an hour to say ‘first!’ Then criticise the devs and complain ‘is that it? Six months work for an hour? Trash devs, crap game’
 
Can you elaborate on what about it you love? I've been trawling through peoples early impressions, which as you can imagine is a mixed bag but each time I find someone who says that its really good they dont then say why, they just say "its excellent" etc and never give any explanation on why. Makes it kind of hard to make an informed decision on the game.

Sure. So will start with the obvious. For me I love the look of the game, graphically it's one of the best mmo's there is, maybe the best, the style is fantastic, the UI gorgeous, fits perfectly into the New World tag, it all looks very new frontier'ish. Anyone saying it looks rubbish are comparing it obviously to games like RDR2, Gears Of War, Destiny 2 etc which is simply dumb, probably just salty kids that have never played an MMO with tens of thousands of other people on the same server. Also, the performance is great, I get around 120fps maxed out on my rig in sig. It's well optimised even on a USEAST server with a ping of 90 - 100ms, there's zero lagging or rubber banding, to get that on another continent server is something you don't see often. (I'm there as the queues on EU servers were crazy yesterday, there are very small queues on the USEAST servers and I'm playing with my Twitch followers and friends).

So levelling skills is what these games are about right. There are skill wheels for pretty much everything you do. Whether that be on a tanning rack, smelter, carpenter bench, forgery, stonemason, jewel crafting, weapon crafting, armour crafting, food station, potion station etc etc. The levelling and grinding is clearly there, there's a lot to progress to, there's a a real sense of progression through the grind which I like. Then you've got harvesting, skinning, hunting skills, basic gathering. Everything pretty much goes to your progress.

Combat IS NOT CLUNKY, not at all. I've no idea where that comes from. There are no crazy hotbars with dozens of skills to manage on timers, there's no lock on combat, its all totally free flowing. You can carry and use any weapons, you are not locked into certain weapons or skills determined by your class, same for wearing armour. Oh yeah, and AUTORUN keybind haha, I joke but damn more games need this.

I also love the extra levels of immersion, small details in the game make me smile. Mine a rock or an iron ore node in a canyon and you'll hear the echo of the hit through the mountains. If someone is doing the same a little further you'll get that audio echo but will give you a great clue as to where or how far away they are. Same for cutting down trees, you'll hear tree creaking and falling in the distance, audio isn't just instanced to you in other words. Bigger rocks, bigger nodes will take longer to mine, sawdust and bark chippings are added to the overall effect of cutting down trees. Fishing is a nice mini game, not just a simple case of lobbing your line out and catching a fish after a few seconds, you will have to control the line and how you deal with certain size fish. In essance it just feels like a little more thought has been put into the smaller details, but they all add up.

Also, love the way how settlements and areas you are questing in are tied to factions, I think that's where the PVP will come into it. You kinda level up the regions you're questing in, you can purchase houses in those towns, store goodies all that standard stuff. Notice boards will give you a variety of quests for providing for the settlements you are based at. Once you get to certain levels you can add points to lower tax rates, higher XP gains etc all again done as a progressing type level where the more points you put into a settlement the lower the tax rate will be for selling buying etc, or the higher XP you gain for doing everything in that area.

However, the story is a bit average so far, the quests yes they are basic MMO type quests as you see in every MMO nothing really exciting or ground breaking there but how many other ways can you do it?? No different from one shooter to the next all doing the same conquest style or deathmatch maps with levelling guns, this is just the MMO tried and tested ways.

Overall at the minute it's a bunch of fun. There's no thought from me of any refunding come full release. All I want to do is play this game, I wouldn't say I'm addicted, far from it. But you know that feeling you get when you just want to play for an hour more because you're close to unlocking something. Or wanting to turn the PC on ASAP because you're thinking of an unlock?? that's where I am with it. It's a really fun game so far.

Obviously I'm no reviewer, just my own opinions on it right now. I like you can also play the BETA up till launch as much as you like and still be able to refund the game at full release (Aug 31st). As long as you don't play for more than 2 hours after full release, you'll be golden for a refund if you don't like. One mans meat is another mans poison and all that.
 
What happens in a situation like that, is it a hardware fault with the 3090s so the manufacturer is liable or is it a fault of the game so Amazon is liable?
people were saying even the black queue screen was causing their GPUs to hit 90c+

people need to install MSI afterburner or whatever and temp limit/power limit the card when the games so crappy optimised

Just need to cap fps is all. The bricking is just from uncapped frame rates in certain menus as the card ramps up to crazy high speeds and usage.

it's bad game design to not cap fps on queue screens when it's just a black screen, what a waste of electricity, don't game UI's usually have their own update rate too.

how novice are the people coding this game

probably just salty kids that have never played an MMO with tens of thousands of other people on the same server.

any MMO that ever had good graphics at the time always failed... look at EQ2 they claimed the graphics engine etc was designed for future hardware.....

it looked crazy dated fast, ran like cack even years later.

no one wants it... they should worry about making the game accessible, most people who play mmos actually have really crap pcs
 
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Sure. So will start with the obvious. For me I love the look of the game, graphically it's one of the best mmo's there is, maybe the best, the style is fantastic, the UI gorgeous, fits perfectly into the New World tag, it all looks very new frontier'ish. Anyone saying it looks rubbish are comparing it obviously to games like RDR2, Gears Of War, Destiny 2 etc which is simply dumb, probably just salty kids that have never played an MMO with tens of thousands of other people on the same server. Also, the performance is great, I get around 120fps maxed out on my rig in sig. It's well optimised even on a USEAST server with a ping of 90 - 100ms, there's zero lagging or rubber banding, to get that on another continent server is something you don't see often. (I'm there as the queues on EU servers were crazy yesterday, there are very small queues on the USEAST servers and I'm playing with my Twitch followers and friends).

So levelling skills is what these games are about right. There are skill wheels for pretty much everything you do. Whether that be on a tanning rack, smelter, carpenter bench, forgery, stonemason, jewel crafting, weapon crafting, armour crafting, food station, potion station etc etc. The levelling and grinding is clearly there, there's a lot to progress to, there's a a real sense of progression through the grind which I like. Then you've got harvesting, skinning, hunting skills, basic gathering. Everything pretty much goes to your progress.

Combat IS NOT CLUNKY, not at all. I've no idea where that comes from. There are no crazy hotbars with dozens of skills to manage on timers, there's no lock on combat, its all totally free flowing. You can carry and use any weapons, you are not locked into certain weapons or skills determined by your class, same for wearing armour. Oh yeah, and AUTORUN keybind haha, I joke but damn more games need this.

I also love the extra levels of immersion, small details in the game make me smile. Mine a rock or an iron ore node in a canyon and you'll hear the echo of the hit through the mountains. If someone is doing the same a little further you'll get that audio echo but will give you a great clue as to where or how far away they are. Same for cutting down trees, you'll hear tree creaking and falling in the distance, audio isn't just instanced to you in other words. Bigger rocks, bigger nodes will take longer to mine, sawdust and bark chippings are added to the overall effect of cutting down trees. Fishing is a nice mini game, not just a simple case of lobbing your line out and catching a fish after a few seconds, you will have to control the line and how you deal with certain size fish. In essance it just feels like a little more thought has been put into the smaller details, but they all add up.

Also, love the way how settlements and areas you are questing in are tied to factions, I think that's where the PVP will come into it. You kinda level up the regions you're questing in, you can purchase houses in those towns, store goodies all that standard stuff. Notice boards will give you a variety of quests for providing for the settlements you are based at. Once you get to certain levels you can add points to lower tax rates, higher XP gains etc all again done as a progressing type level where the more points you put into a settlement the lower the tax rate will be for selling buying etc, or the higher XP you gain for doing everything in that area.

However, the story is a bit average so far, the quests yes they are basic MMO type quests as you see in every MMO nothing really exciting or ground breaking there but how many other ways can you do it?? No different from one shooter to the next all doing the same conquest style or deathmatch maps with levelling guns, this is just the MMO tried and tested ways.

Overall at the minute it's a bunch of fun. There's no thought from me of any refunding come full release. All I want to do is play this game, I wouldn't say I'm addicted, far from it. But you know that feeling you get when you just want to play for an hour more because you're close to unlocking something. Or wanting to turn the PC on ASAP because you're thinking of an unlock?? that's where I am with it. It's a really fun game so far.

Obviously I'm no reviewer, just my own opinions on it right now. I like you can also play the BETA up till launch as much as you like and still be able to refund the game at full release (Aug 31st). As long as you don't play for more than 2 hours after full release, you'll be golden for a refund if you don't like. One mans meat is another mans poison and all that.

Thanks, thats the sort of informative breakdown I've been looking for. From what you've written there it seems like theres a lot of crafting skills and crafting is a big thing in the game. Do you think that the "WoW refugees" who swarmed en masse to FFXIV recently will drop FFXIV (as they wont have much time invested in it yet) and move to New World (as its newer) or do you think that its a different sort of MMO and may not appeal to them?

It does sound interesting, one for me to keep an eye on (as are all MMOs tbh) , I'll see how it goes at launch, unless I can manage to get hold of a key before then. I know I can purchase and refund but I dont like to do that where I can avoid it.
 
Thanks, thats the sort of informative breakdown I've been looking for. From what you've written there it seems like theres a lot of crafting skills and crafting is a big thing in the game. Do you think that the "WoW refugees" who swarmed en masse to FFXIV recently will drop FFXIV (as they wont have much time invested in it yet) and move to New World (as its newer) or do you think that its a different sort of MMO and may not appeal to them?

It does sound interesting, one for me to keep an eye on (as are all MMOs tbh) , I'll see how it goes at launch, unless I can manage to get hold of a key before then. I know I can purchase and refund but I dont like to do that where I can avoid it.

Sure.

Its an incredibly shameless plug but I will be streaming it from 8pm or 8:30 tonight if yiu wanted to hop in, look at a few things, tell me what you'd like to see etc.
 
Thanks, thats the sort of informative breakdown I've been looking for. From what you've written there it seems like theres a lot of crafting skills and crafting is a big thing in the game. Do you think that the "WoW refugees" who swarmed en masse to FFXIV recently will drop FFXIV (as they wont have much time invested in it yet) and move to New World (as its newer) or do you think that its a different sort of MMO and may not appeal to them?

It does sound interesting, one for me to keep an eye on (as are all MMOs tbh) , I'll see how it goes at launch, unless I can manage to get hold of a key before then. I know I can purchase and refund but I dont like to do that where I can avoid it.
IMO it will be another GW/GW2 game people play between other things when they get bored waiting for content
 
The problem is everyone compares it or any new MMO to WOW. Now while I understand that's natural as WOW is the king dingaling in MMORPGs, nothing will ever sell more and be played more than WOW was back in the day, ppl have very ageing fond memories of it but let's be honest, play it now its absolute turd. Even the remaster.

Regarding FFXIV players moving from it to New World, who knows. I've seen plenty of players in chat that have come from FFXIV really enjoying this and plenty saying this will be dead in a year. I'm 43, if it gives me a few hours of enjoyment most days for a year, that's perfect for me. I can't sit at a PC for 15 hours a day like 20 years ago on WOW.
 
The problem is everyone compares it or any new MMO to WOW. Now while I understand that's natural as WOW is the king dingaling in MMORPGs, nothing will ever sell more and be played more than WOW was back in the day, ppl have very ageing fond memories of it but let's be honest, play it now its absolute turd. Even the remaster.

I'm lucky, I tend to compare MMOs to the golden age of MMO games (UO, EQ, DAOC) :)
 
Regarding 3090 overheating, I've got a Asus 3090 Strix OC under watercooling. I'm sure you can use AIDA64 to not only set alarms but also auto shutdown upon critical temps. I have Aquacomputer with alarms and a series of functionality shutdowns. But the news still has be a little concerned as I do want to try this but if it's random spikes causing insane temps that kills the cards, then alarms may be too late.
 
3090FE here, I didn't have any problems with temps yesterday but i was getting fed up with it not reducing fps on loading/waiting to log in screens so i capped it at 60FPS, what i did notice was hardly any reduction in power draw when capped, bare in mind it was giving much higher FPS out of the towns.

Just tried again, after a steam patch for it, and it seems to be reducing power draw as i would expect now. I wonder if they've changed something.. this is at 4k btw.
 
wow tried this on my 3080 FE tonight.

Capped at 70fps, 300W / 1.1v power draw, core was getting to around 80C quickly. Thankfully I've modded my VRAM cooling so that was low.

Capped to 30fps the draw is 99W / 0.8V

Something is up.
 
Re: EVGA 3090 owners.

Hi Adventurers,

Thank you all for sharing your reports about this problem, we believe this is related with driver settings and frame rate limiters.

  1. Disable the overrides in the driver settings,
  2. Make sure to press “APPLY”
  3. Restart the game client.
Also you can cap your FPS.

This will help prevent issues with the GPU’s utilization.

Go to Settings > Visuals > Max fps > Set this to 60, this should help to bring the utilization back down.

Additionally, please be sure to check in your NVIDIA Control Panel under Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > Select New World, and check that Max Frame Rate either shows 'Use Global Settings (Off) or just Off.

Please let us know if you need more assistance and thank you all for your contributions to the Beta.
 
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