Poll: Newby ghost photo - ever proved a fake?

Do you think the Newby Ghost photo is real or fake?

  • Real

  • Fake

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I take back what I said before. They're real.

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jellybeard999 said:
They're in parents attic in a photo album somewhere I imagine.

The child isn't see through or faded or anything. I might have oversold how spooky it is lol. It's always stuck in my mind though. Imagine a child wearing old fashioned dark coloured shorts and thinking about it now, I'm sure he's wearing a t-shirt, so we're not talking period Victorian chimney sweep clothing, but definitely looks unusual. I suppose like someone walking around in plus fours would be now... though thats not unheard of.

I imagine an outsider looking at the photo would be very underwhelmed!
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Reminds me of my eldest when she went to China on her own.
She would get other people in her party to take pictures of her while she posed in front of a building/statue etc and when she got home she found at least 7 photos where Chinese people had just photobombed and she had no idea they were there :)
 
Ghosts aren't real.
This photo is fake and its hilarious people believe in this *****.

There are far more fascinating real things in this world to get stuck into without resorting to this tripe.
 
I know this topic hasn't been posted in for a long time, but I have read all the posts and I wanted to comment that I have studied the Newby Church ghost photo in detail. I first saw it when I was 9 and although it never scared me, I always found the face covering weird until I found it could have been a covering for leprosy. I have visited Newby Church twice, the second time I took photos of myself standing in the ghost's position and I carefully studied the full version of the photo to get an exact copy of the Reverend Lord's photo in terms of measurement. One or two people had reenacted the photo before and someone on Flickr commented the ghost couldn't have been 9 feet tall, although their photo didn't exactly match the original's dimensions.

I found that by recreating the photo, the ghost was only around 6 feet 3 inches. I can never understand where the 9 feet tall claim comes from. Something that has always fascinated me is how, if the ghost was real, why was he standing on the altar step of a church that wasn't even 100 years old at the time. Although it looks like the robe is draped over the altar step at first glance, I only realised about 2 years ago that what appears to be the bottom of the robe actually looks like a spill on the negative, there are also one or two small parts that stick out on the right of what is thought of as the robe's bottom and if you look carefully, the spill goes upwards into a dark cone shape in the area where the ghost's legs should be. Also, when you look carefully at good quality copies, the bottom of the robe appears to be behind the dark area around the altar step, the dark patch on the step looks separate to the ghost's robe.

I also found an article on the British Newspaper Archive from 1967 that was in The People. It says the image was taken seven years before, so 1963 is obviously wrong and the Reverend Lord commented he had no interest in ghosts and didn't believe it to be a ghost, saying "it could well be a trick of the light". Whatever the ghost really was, it never turned up in any of my photos on both visits!
 
dirtychinchilla said:
That nursery is actually creepy, but I’m not sure I’d find my career on something that don’t exist. Then again, the church is pretty successful…
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I don't think she's ever had a job in over 40 years.
Every now & then you'd get a video on Facebook of her walking into a building saying "Yes I can definitely feel a presence in here" :)
At least her and a couple of mates have took it up a notch for the gullible.
 
Matt79 said:
I know this topic hasn't been posted in for a long time, but I have read all the posts and I wanted to comment that I have studied the Newby Church ghost photo in detail. I first saw it when I was 9 and although it never scared me, I always found the face covering weird until I found it could have been a covering for leprosy. I have visited Newby Church twice, the second time I took photos of myself standing in the ghost's position and I carefully studied the full version of the photo to get an exact copy of the Reverend Lord's photo in terms of measurement. One or two people had reenacted the photo before and someone on Flickr commented the ghost couldn't have been 9 feet tall, although their photo didn't exactly match the original's dimensions.

I found that by recreating the photo, the ghost was only around 6 feet 3 inches. I can never understand where the 9 feet tall claim comes from. Something that has always fascinated me is how, if the ghost was real, why was he standing on the altar step of a church that wasn't even 100 years old at the time. Although it looks like the robe is draped over the altar step at first glance, I only realised about 2 years ago that what appears to be the bottom of the robe actually looks like a spill on the negative, there are also one or two small parts that stick out on the right of what is thought of as the robe's bottom and if you look carefully, the spill goes upwards into a dark cone shape in the area where the ghost's legs should be. Also, when you look carefully at good quality copies, the bottom of the robe appears to be behind the dark area around the altar step, the dark patch on the step looks separate to the ghost's robe.

I also found an article on the British Newspaper Archive from 1967 that was in The People. It says the image was taken seven years before, so 1963 is obviously wrong and the Reverend Lord commented he had no interest in ghosts and didn't believe it to be a ghost, saying "it could well be a trick of the light". Whatever the ghost really was, it never turned up in any of my photos on both visits!
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Fascinating stuff, thanks Matt. There are plenty of people saying this photo is fake or has been debunked but I don't think there is an reliable source which confirms this.
 
Lysander said:
Fascinating stuff, thanks Matt. There are plenty of people saying this photo is fake or has been debunked but I don't think there is an reliable source which confirms this.
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Well of course it is faked because there is no such thing as ghosts. I mean, this is 101.
If someone showed me a picture of a Unicorn there is no requirement to prove it is a fake or debunk it - Unicorns don't exist, ergo, the photo does not contain a picture of a Unicorn.
Someone shows me a picture of the Loch Ness monster, again no requirements to debunk - Loch Ness monster doesn't exit, ergo the photo does not contain a picture of Loch Ness monster

So in the same way I don't need to prove that a Medium is nothing more than a Charlatan preying on the grief of people who have lost someone near - I (or anyone else) don't need to prove a picture of a ghost isn't real, because your claim it is a picture of something that doesn't exist cannot possibly be true.
 
stoofa said:
Well of course it is faked because there is no such thing as ghosts. I mean, this is 101.
If someone showed me a picture of a Unicorn there is no requirement to prove it is a fake or debunk it - Unicorns don't exist, ergo, the photo does not contain a picture of a Unicorn.
Someone shows me a picture of the Loch Ness monster, again no requirements to debunk - Loch Ness monster doesn't exit, ergo the photo does not contain a picture of Loch Ness monster

So in the same way I don't need to prove that a Medium is nothing more than a Charlatan preying on the grief of people who have lost someone near - I (or anyone else) don't need to prove a picture of a ghost isn't real, because your claim it is a picture of something that doesn't exist cannot possibly be true.
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But that's not the same. No civilization claims that unicorns are real. Whereas every civilization in the world admits that spirits are real. It's only in the last few decades that - in the West - we say they aren't. But there are many things that can't be explained, or, more accurately, can only be explained as spirit visitations. This is one of them.
 
Lysander said:
Whereas every civilization in the world admits that spirits are real
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No they do not, without a citation this is a false statement really. What cultures/civilisations have believed vs what is real is very different. Previous to the last few decades belief structure has been fundamentally and solely based on the words of the powers that be, the respected and/or the wise, aka church leaders, local authority, preachers etc. It has only been since the availability of actual information to the masses that the shift has started to happen and the questioning of all these beliefs become apparent.

Some parts of the world still think this way because the people who power over them also control what kind of information from the outside world they have access to so they only know what they are told to know.

Medical science has proven multiple times that even certain foods/frequencies/natural organisms like mold etc can make you see/hear things that are so real that it has to be real. Likewise photographs can be double exposed by accident or shapes and features on defective media look like human shapes and figures. Jesus on toast springs to mind.
 
mrk said:
13 years later this is still considered real. Come on folks time to face reality.
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If ghosts were real they would be popping up on CCTV and doorbell cameras all over the place.

just a bunch of fake photos like aliens, the lochness monster etc

saying that I think I've witnessed 2 ghosts in my life time but they seemed as real as a person would be.

one time I saw a girl in the corridor of my house, blinked thinking WTF? and then she was gone. (someone claimed a girl died in my house but could be utter rubbish... lived there about 6 years and it only happened that once)

another time in a park I thought someone was walking towards me on the path so stepped to the side but then when I looked back up no one was there.

ghosts are some shadow figure or whatever though I don't buy it...


A few times I woke up in the night thinking someone was watching me at the end of the bed, never liked chairs in my bedroom because I get the feeling someone is sitting watching me sleep etc, but I'd put any sightings whilst tired/half asleep down to my mind playing tricks on me
 
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