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Cheapest 7950GX2 I can find on this site is the BFG at £380, the Leadtek is £375 but is out of stock. If the 7950GX2 is £354 on some competitor website, then fine, but let's face facts shall we; That's still 1/8th over budget and, according to Gibbo, the X1950 will offer similar performance. :) Att to that the superior image quality of current ATI graphics cards, and you have a winner.

Update: The cheapest 7950GX2 I can find on competitor sites is £365, so unless you're looking on a certain auction site then I cannot find the one you are looking at.
 
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Úlfhednar said:
Cheapest 7950GX2 I can find on this site is the BFG at £380, the Leadtek is £375 but is out of stock. If the 7950GX2 is £354 on some competitor website, then fine, but let's face facts shall we; That's still 1/8th over budget and, according to Gibbo, the X1950 will offer similar performance. :) Att to that the superior image quality of current ATI graphics cards, and you have a winner.

Update: The cheapest 7950GX2 I can find on competitor sites is £365, so unless you're looking on a certain auction site then I cannot find the one you are looking at.
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LOL I have heard everything now.The internet is a big place lol.

i was waiting for the old "better image quality" arguement.

Fact is GX2 is faster and cheaper than x1950 as gibbo has stated one of them will be 375 plus vat.
 
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easyrider said:
Fact is GX2 is faster and cheaper than x1950 as gibbo has stated one of them will be 375 plus vat.
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Are you on drugs? Gibbo said a single X1950XT will be close to GX2 performance and will be £275 inc. and you quoted that bit yourself. It's the XT-X that will be much more expensive, so what planet are you on? Seriously.

The image quality argument isn't "old" either, but apparently everything is old according to you. The X1800/X1900 series has HQAF, HDR+AA, sharper image, and less texture crawling than the 7900 series, deal with it. :rolleyes:
 
I like having top end hardware.

If the x1950 is better than the GX 2 I will have one, don't care if its red ,green or blue,

I just think that getting a 256mb x1950 for 275 is a bit pointless when i can get gx2 for a bit more an have more perfromance.

What is it that you do not understand?

I am happy to help in any way can.
 
The part I don't understand is that you're telling someone with a £300 budget to buy a 7950GX2 which, as far as I can see, is £365 at the cheapest at a competitor site. £365 (£381 if talking about OcUK) is not equal to or less than £300, not by a long-shot, do you see what I am getting at now?

I also don't understand your hatred towards the X1950XT. Gibbo has stated that it almost matches GX2 performance and will only cost £275 inc., how anyone can not think that's great is beyond me, but you seem to think that a GX2 is somehow worth it over that.
 
Úlfhednar said:
The part I don't understand is that you're telling someone with a £300 budget to buy a 7950GX2 which, as far as I can see, is £365 at the cheapest at a competitor site. £365 (£381 if talking about OcUK) is not equal to or less than £300, not by a long-shot, do you see what I am getting at now?

I also don't understand your hatred towards the X1950XT. Gibbo has stated that it almost matches GX2 performance and will only cost £275 inc., how anyone can not think that's great is beyond me, but you seem to think that a GX2 is somehow worth it over that.
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For starters not to mention that for a few quid more you can get better performance when you have a budget of 300 quid anyway deemed to be right.

The majority of people with that high end budget would not think twice about spending 60 quid more for 6000 more 3d marks ,quite frankly.

so stop repeating yourself.Its boring.

I dont have any hatred towards the X1950XT...The GX2 for 60 quid more is a better buy than the x1950 256mb version.
 
easyrider said:
For starters not to mention that for a few quid more you can get better performance when you have a budget of 300 quid anyway deemed to be right.
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Well, for starters, it's not "a few quid more." It's more like 22% more, and since he said his budget is £300, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you think everybody would be willing to slap 22% onto an already huge budget.

He could get an X1900XT now for £211 (or £205 on this week only), which isn't even close to 7950GX2 performance, but it beats the 7900GTX in a lot of benchmarks and has superior image quality beside the bonus of being £70 or so cheaper than it.

Alternatively, he could wait for the X1950XT, as Gibbo stated that it's almost as good as a 7950GX2 performance-wise and will only be £275. The fact that it has 256MB video memory is completely irrelevent as I have stated with three links to a huge range of benchmarks up to 2048x1536 with and without antialiasing enabled, but according to you he should spend almost £100 more and get a slightly faster card with inferior image quality. I can't see how an extra £100 is worth it, that's a lot of money to someone with a £300 budget.

easyrider said:
The majority of people with that high end budget would not think twice about spending 60 quid more for 6000 more 3d marks ,quite frankly.
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Firstly; He said that his budget is £300. You seem to be ignoring this key fact, and keep suggesting he add another 22% or more onto that.

Secondly; 3D Mark isn't a very fun game, It gets kind of repetative. I don't know if he cares about an extra 6000 in 3D Mark, hell we don't even know what the X1950 gets in 3D Mark yet so that's pure speculation on your part (something you have accused me of already in this thread.) What we do know though is that, according to Gibbo, it that a single one is almost at the performance level of the GX2.

easyrider said:
so stop repeating yourself.Its boring.
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Yeah, I wouldn't have to if I wasn't talking to a wall. Don't worry, I'll stop bothering soon enough as it's pretty pointless to provide evidence over and over again when the other party simply ignores it.

easyrider said:
I dont have any hatred towards the X1950XT...The GX2 for 60 quid more is a better buy than the x1950 256mb version.
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Firstly, it's not £60 more, it's more like £90 more (X950XT will be £275 inc. and the GX2 is currently £365 inc. Do the maths.) Secondly; How many times do I have to point out that 256MB is fine? Do I have to pull out the benchmarks again? Do I have to remind you we're talking about GDDR4, the bleeding-edge of memory technology? Do you now see what I mean about talking to a wall?
 
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Lost the plot?

no,

Its just like the impending doom of the price cuts before the new stuff comes.

A64 3700's at 60 quid x1900's at 205 quid.

In technology terms its old.

we all know that 3 months is a long time in pc hardware.

That was my point.
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yeah and in performance terms it isnt. end of story.
 
Úlfhednar said:
Well, for starters, it's not "a few quid more." It's more like 22% more, and since he said his budget is £300, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you think everybody would be willing to slap 22% onto an already huge budget.

He could get an X1900XT now for £211 (or £205 on this week only), which isn't even close to 7950GX2 performance, but it beats the 7900GTX in a lot of benchmarks and has superior image quality beside the bonus of being £70 or so cheaper than it.

Alternatively, he could wait for the X1950XT, as Gibbo stated that it's almost as good as a 7950GX2 performance-wise and will only be £275. The fact that it has 256MB video memory is completely irrelevent as I have stated with three links to a huge range of benchmarks up to 2048x1536 with and without antialiasing enabled, but according to you he should spend almost £100 more and get a slightly faster card with inferior image quality. I can't see how an extra £100 is worth it, that's a lot of money to someone with a £300 budget.

Firstly; He said that his budget is £300. You seem to be ignoring this key fact, and keep suggesting he add another 22% or more onto that.

Secondly; 3D Mark isn't a very fun game, It gets kind of repetative. I don't know if he cares about an extra 6000 in 3D Mark, hell we don't even know what the X1950 gets in 3D Mark yet so that's pure speculation on your part (something you have accused me of already in this thread.) What we do know though is that, according to Gibbo, it that a single one is almost at the performance level of the GX2.

Yeah, I wouldn't have to if I wasn't talking to a wall. Don't worry, I'll stop bothering soon enough as it's pretty pointless to provide evidence over and over again when the other party simply ignores it.

Firstly, it's not £60 more, it's more like £90 more (X950XT will be £275 inc. and the GX2 is currently £265 inc. Do the maths.) Secondly; How many times do I have to point out that 256MB is fine? Do I have to pull out the benchmarks again? Do I have to remind you we're talking about GDDR4, the bleeding-edge of memory technology? Do you now see what I mean about talking to a wall?
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I have been nothing but polite.

REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT

TROLL
 
If it was me i would stretch that bit further for what seems like a large performance gain. It depends on the guy who asked the question. If he can stretch then go for the 7950gx2, it will be worth it, if not then go for the ATI alternative.
 
Úlfhednar said:
Firstly, it's not £60 more, it's more like £90 more (X950XT will be £275 inc. and the GX2 is currently £265 inc. Do the maths.) Secondly; How many times do I have to point out that 256MB is fine? Do I have to pull out the benchmarks again? Do I have to remind you we're talking about GDDR4, the bleeding-edge of memory technology? Do you now see what I mean about talking to a wall?
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lol
 
easyrider said:
Everyone said that about the 9800 pro.

I cried when i got rid of mine.

But as dylan said "the times they are a changin" :p
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so? more fool you for believing them. Not being top flight doesnt make a card 'old hat' for anybody except those with more money than sense.
 
easyrider said:
I have been nothing but polite.

REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT

TROLL
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Wow, is this what you do when your pathetic and baseless arguments are knocked down, and you don't have a counter-point to speak of? Just shout the same word in caps over and over?

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lol
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Oops, LOL! :D Horrible typo there, meant to say the 7950GX2 is £365, not £265.

And don't get too excited easyrider, I can hear the fapping noise from here. It's easy for you to laugh at a typo when you chickened out of answering the point entirely, isn't it. :)
 
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cooler of the 1950xtx looks interesting, how shall i put it... it looks less noisy lol.
 
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