I don't however the gov does.lol. Serious though what do you do when you need an op or treatment and can't get it for a year or a GP app which you might get in 4 weeks ? Go private ? take out private medical insurance ? Please do the more people that take out will leave extra capacity in the NHS.
NHS=Negligent Health Service
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I said about a guy on YouTube who has cancer and he has medical insurance. He has had to start up a gofund me appeal because the insurance doesn't cover all the costs. So if he can't get access to the extra funds he will have to sell his house ,borrow money or whatever just to pay for the extra expenses.
I wouldn't be able to afford insurance and with my medical history probably wouldn't get it at my age so where does that put me?
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Caporegime
That must be the US that couldn't happen here?
Sorry, yes in the US
You think so?
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Caporegime
Well not at the moment, when I had cancer I didn't get a massive bill, I was in the hospital same day and out about 6 hours later. In the US you'd be given a huge receipt before leaving from what I understand.
As to if it could happen in the UK, well, things may be going that way but we hope not.
My sister is really being messed around at the moment by the NHS - she can't keep any food down and has had to keep going to A&E because she's being bounced from pillar to post. I don't understand why she isn't under a consultant already despite diagnostics clearly showing issues. She got pushed back to her GP who is now trying to get her referred again. :/
Absolutely incompetent and I'm considering pulling some savings to get her in private to get it all dealt with
There is absolutely no way I'd be without private medical cover now - NHS is an absolute shambles and it's terrifying.
Absolutely incompetent and I'm considering pulling some savings to get her in private to get it all dealt with
There is absolutely no way I'd be without private medical cover now - NHS is an absolute shambles and it's terrifying.
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Caporegime
The NHS has never been allowed to recover from COVID, nothing is happening to improve that, in fact the Government is actively trying to undermine recovery (tax cuts to NI instead of funding services, replacing GPs with quack PAs, dragging out endless IA at the cost of billions).My sister is really being messed around at the moment by the NHS - she can't keep any food down and has had to keep going to A&E because she's being bounced from pillar to post. I don't understand why she isn't under a consultant already despite diagnostics clearly showing issues. She got pushed back to her GP who is now trying to get her referred again. :/
Absolutely incompetent and I'm considering pulling some savings to get her in private to get it all dealt with
There is absolutely no way I'd be without private medical cover now - NHS is an absolute shambles and it's terrifying.
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Yeah I don't understand the NI reduction either - it's absolute insanity. We're clearly at a point where it needs reform though IMO - we should be looking at how some European countries do it rather than mindlessly throwing more money at it in the hope that things will improve (they obviously haven't).
It's an eye-opener being treated abroad. A friend and I got dealt with promptly in Spain after both having accidents on holiday. I was gobsmacked at the efficiency - that would have been an 8 hour wait in the UK.
Rant over - just extremely frustrated.
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I think he is having to have a lot of ongoing tests and treatments, it was just the extras that weren't covered by the insurance he was asking for help. I had a sinus op in 1990 through the firms health care, BUPA. Went in to the local private hospital and had it done, fine no problem nice and routine. The wife and kids come in and visit, the room was very nice better than a Premier Inn room but about the same size. They were asked if they wanted anything. They had a pot of tea and some sandwiches not a massive cost but I was billed for it.
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My niece who is also an older student has recently gained her Nursing Qualifications and received A's in all her assignments and working on Wards etc.
She was told by Keele that she would 100% get a job but she would have to attend a Nursing Jobs Fair.
When she got there about 8am she was given a ticket and she was around 130 in the queue.
After about 5 hours a bloke came out and said "Sorry all the jobs have been taken, there were 89 and it was first come first served"
He said they could stick around because there would be odd jobs eg 10 hours at County Hospital on nights etc.
To say she was upset was an understatement.
She was told by Keele that she would 100% get a job but she would have to attend a Nursing Jobs Fair.
When she got there about 8am she was given a ticket and she was around 130 in the queue.
After about 5 hours a bloke came out and said "Sorry all the jobs have been taken, there were 89 and it was first come first served"
He said they could stick around because there would be odd jobs eg 10 hours at County Hospital on nights etc.
To say she was upset was an understatement.
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That's disgusting they should all have been interviewed and the appropriate people selected. However I'm not surprised as the wife says that they have to advertise a job but they have already filled it internally.My niece who is also an older student has recently gained her Nursing Qualifications and received A's in all her assignments and working on Wards etc.
She was told by Keele that she would 100% get a job but she would have to attend a Nursing Jobs Fair.
When she got there about 8am she was given a ticket and she was around 130 in the queue.
After about 5 hours a bloke came out and said "Sorry all the jobs have been taken, there were 89 and it was first come first served"
He said they could stick around because there would be odd jobs eg 10 hours at County Hospital on nights etc.
To say she was upset was an understatement.
Caporegime
Hold on, I'm confused. We're having to import nurses because there's a shortage but the positions are filled instantly and qualified nurses can't get jobs?
Soldato
I know this thread can get people quite emotionally involved but I would hope that it would be universally accepted by now that the current day NHS is, for far too many people who are suffering, broken in so many areas of care right now and letting people down far too often.
It seems to me that as a country, like a an addict going through rehab, we'd be better off finally accepting that the NHS of today is fundamentally broken and trying to fix the problem rather than wasting effort either denying it is broken (which is bad) or coming up with excuses for why it is i.e. lets recognise the problem, come up with a solution, implement the solution, check to see if the solution is working, loop back to the start if it isn't. Yet instead we, as a country, seem to spend far too much time denying that a problem exists because the NHS is still held as some kind of sacred god who MUST be worshipped no matter how rotten parts of it have become, with a "NHS is the best thing in the world" cult following who believe its perfect or make excuses for its constant failures.
Usually at this point someone will say "so how do you think it should be fixed then buddy, huh?" - I've no idea, I just fix planes for a living but I can tell when something is broke even if I don't know how to fix it, and it seems like until we drop our blinkered "the NHS is the best thing ever" view which is just a denial of reality, then we'll never fix it's current issues.
It seems to me that as a country, like a an addict going through rehab, we'd be better off finally accepting that the NHS of today is fundamentally broken and trying to fix the problem rather than wasting effort either denying it is broken (which is bad) or coming up with excuses for why it is i.e. lets recognise the problem, come up with a solution, implement the solution, check to see if the solution is working, loop back to the start if it isn't. Yet instead we, as a country, seem to spend far too much time denying that a problem exists because the NHS is still held as some kind of sacred god who MUST be worshipped no matter how rotten parts of it have become, with a "NHS is the best thing in the world" cult following who believe its perfect or make excuses for its constant failures.
Usually at this point someone will say "so how do you think it should be fixed then buddy, huh?" - I've no idea, I just fix planes for a living but I can tell when something is broke even if I don't know how to fix it, and it seems like until we drop our blinkered "the NHS is the best thing ever" view which is just a denial of reality, then we'll never fix it's current issues.
Caporegime
Same logic with doctors, we're employing pseudodoctors to play GP/anaesthetist whilst actual doctors are turned down in droves for specialist training whilst being paid less then these "assistant roles".Hold on, I'm confused. We're having to import nurses because there's a shortage but the positions are filled instantly and qualified nurses can't get jobs?
Caporegime
Ah, are these the APs or whatever they're called?
Caporegime
PAs and AAs are the current flavour of the month, but we've also promoting paramedics working as GPs when there's a shortage of Paramedics. The Gov wants everyone to play GP but GPs it seems.
Man of Honour
These however weren't internally, it was a Nursing Jobs Fair at our hospital where we train our own Nurses at Keele University and all the Qualified Nurses were told they will have a job because they ours.
Many Nurses turned up from other areas and got jobs because they were first through the door.
Caporegime
And still, as I pointed out years ago, there is little to no funding to have professionals retrain from other fields as doctors. The system is an absolute disaster.
Stil, bad practice though. They will employ them then find out they're not suitable but have a hard time getting rid of them because of the various safe guards over termination of employment.
Can you provide a source for this? Do nurses have some special protection from dismissal? Because in the UK it's a piece of cake for any vaguely competent employer to sack an employee who has less than two years of service.