Nibiru..2012 the end?
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The mayan callender does not represent the end of the world, it just presents the end of the callender year, a lot like ours which ends in december then starts up again in january.
the mayans did however use the stars as there calender.
it does have some connection to where we are in the solar system, apparently were quite close to the galatic plane, and getting closer. now the galatic plane is the most denses part of the solar system, which means that we have the possibility of having near misses ect.... not only that nebulas gases which could cause solar flares. but nothing of the extreme of a planetx, i find it hard to beleive that we can't see it specially through a telescope and i feel that it was made up to make people panic and spend loads of money on books ect to prepare for something thats not going to happen.
there are other things closer to home though.
the mayans did however use the stars as there calender.
it does have some connection to where we are in the solar system, apparently were quite close to the galatic plane, and getting closer. now the galatic plane is the most denses part of the solar system, which means that we have the possibility of having near misses ect.... not only that nebulas gases which could cause solar flares. but nothing of the extreme of a planetx, i find it hard to beleive that we can't see it specially through a telescope and i feel that it was made up to make people panic and spend loads of money on books ect to prepare for something thats not going to happen.
there are other things closer to home though.
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This tread has had me in stitches, Oh noes brown dwarf we can't see or feel.
To all the people who believe this ****, WHY ARE YOU POSTING ON THE INTERNET if i was knew that impending doom was to be upon us soon i would not be sat in front of a computer, I would be trying to cram a life's worth of stuff into the years we have left.
I cant wait till 01/01/2013 just so i can point & laugh
No no no! Evil isnt due here till 2214, it comes once every five thousand years so we have abit of time left yet. Just have to hope Bruce Willis is still alive so he can save the planet with his magic stones and that bird from the Resident Evil movies. I had a vision you see where this evil planet which went REALLY fast was going to destroy the earth and life as we know it. Christ I think im onto a winner here, this would make a great movie!
Keep me posted, this could be the next big hit.
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I cant wait till 01/01/2013 just so i can point & laugh
I'll point and laugh if it lands on your stupid face
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No they wouldn't. Telescopes cover a tiny portion of the sky, which is one of the problems with implementing a 'Space Guard' programme.
They would however probably spot something the size of a brown dwarf that alledgely closer than 2 light years.
Would you clarify what your point is? The galactic plane is not part of the solar system - I suspect that wasn't what you meant. It's essentially a largely imaginary line drawn along the middle of the galaxy (which is about 1000 light-years thick, moving and not all precisely mapped; there's a lot of wiggle room about where the middle is). Our solar system does pass through the galactic plane every few dozen million years, but we're dozens of light-years away from it at the moment. We're not going to be anywhere near it by 2012 unless someone moves the solar system (or the rest of the galaxy) with a faster than light drive. So it's something else to not be worried about.
In all seriousness, it makes much more sense to worry about alien invasion than about any of the half a dozen ways in which civilisation as we know it is prophecied to be ending on 21/12/2012 (or any time soon).
This tread has had me in stitches, Oh noes brown dwarf we can't see or feel.
To all the people who believe this ****, WHY ARE YOU POSTING ON THE INTERNET if i was knew that impending doom was to be upon us soon i would not be sat in front of a computer, I would be trying to cram a life's worth of stuff into the years we have left.
I cant wait till 01/01/2013 just so i can point & laugh
You don't have to. The OMG THE SKY IS FALLING IN date is 21/12/2012 because the Mayans said so. Actually they didn't, but who cares about a minor detail like that? The date is the date. It only makes any sense to people who are followers of the Mayan religion and few if any of the 21/12/2012 believers are, but who cares about a minor detail like that?
So the date is 21/12/2012 because...because....because it is!
Which means you don't have to wait until 1/1/2013 to point and laugh - you can do it 9 days earlier.
There is a serious side to this, though. With a widely spread end of the world prophecy, some people suffer. Maybe stress thinking it might be true, maybe loss of job or property if they thought it was true, maybe even suicide to avoid it if they are thoroughly convinced. So it isn't entirely harmless bull.
Particularly since a lot of telescope hours have been devoted specifically to looking for brown dwarfs.
It wouldn't matter if all the telescopes were always pointing at my big toe by mistake. If a brown dwarf on a ~3600 orbit was now close enough to make a near pass on 21/12/2012 (which is too precise a date for such a scenario anyway), we'd be able to see it without a telescope now. An object that had been brightening over the years until it was now nearly as bright as the moon could not possibly have been overlooked by all the millions of people in the relevant part of the world who look at the sky at least every now and then.
It simply isn't there unless it's cloaked or in warp space or being teleported in later. All of which would obviously require intervention by aliens with a technology so far in advance of our own that they could destroy us in a far less bizarre way if they wanted to destroy us.
Lol i meant the galaxy, The Milky Way is a vast spiral galaxy, shaped a bit like a spinning record; just one that measures 100,000 light-years across and only 1,000 light-years thick. Imagine you were below the Milky Way, and passed through the disk of stars above it. That moment when you're halfway through the 1,000 light-year thickness of stars? That's the galactic plane.
Astronomers actually use a coordinate system to measure positions in the Milky Way, starting with the Sun as the center point. No, we're not actually at the center of the Milky Way, we're actually off to the side, but this makes the measurement easier. They draw a line from the Sun to the center of the Milky Way, and that defines the 0-degree point, and then coordinates are measured within the galactic plane. You can have galactic latitude and longitude.
Have you heard anyone mention that the Sun is supposed to be crossing the galactic plane in 2012? Yeah, that's a myth. Here's the thing. The Sun does bob up and down in the galactic plane. Sometimes we're above the plane, and then other times we're below the plane. But that cycle takes 64 million years to complete! It's impossible to define the exact moment of when the Solar System will pass exactly through the galactic plane.
And astronomers don't think that anything special will happen when the Solar System does pass through the galactic plane. In fact, it's the times when the Earth is above or below the galactic plane when we might be at risk. A recent scientific study correlated those times with large extinction events in the Earth's history. It's possible that the Milky Way's magnetic field protects the Earth from intergalactic radiation and cosmic rays, and when we're significantly above or below the galactic plane, life on Earth suffers more damage from space radiation.
But that's just a theory.
So, to summarize, the Solar System won't be passing through the galactic plane in 2012. There's no easy way to know exactly when that'll happen, and there's absolutely no way to give that a specific date. And even when we do pass through the galactic plane, there's no risk to our planet.
Here's a link to an article on Universe Today about possible extinction events when the Earth is above or below the galactic plane.
There are just so many ways the Universe is out to get us. Astronomers have already considered the threat from our Sun's orbit around the center of the Milky Way. When our Sun rises up out of flat plane of the Milky Way, it appears we might be less protected from intergalactic radiation and cosmic rays. Well, it looks like passing through the middle of the galactic plane might have its own share of risks: an increased number of comets might be hurled towards the Earth because of gravitational interaction with the densest parts of our galaxy.
Researchers at the Cardiff Centre of Astrobiology have built a computer model of the Solar System's journey around the Milky Way. Instead of making a perfectly flat orbit around the galaxy's centre, it actually bounces up and down. At times it can rise right up out of the galactic plane – getting 100 light years above – and then dip down below it. They calculated that we pass through the plane every 35 to 40 million years.
And this time period seems to match dangerous periods of impacts on Earth. According to the number and age of craters on Earth, we seem to suffer increased impacts every 36 million years. Uh oh, that's a match.
In fact, one of these high points of comet activity would have been 65 million years – the same time that an asteroid strike wiped out the dinosaurs.
And here's the bad news. According to their calculations, the Solar System will be passing through the galactic plane in the near future, and should see an increased risk of impact. Our risk of impact could increase 10-fold.
There might be a silver lining to the bounce, though. The impacts might have helped life spread across the galaxy.
While the "bounce" effect may have been bad news for dinosaurs, it may also have helped life to spread. The scientists suggest the impact may have thrown debris containing micro-organisms out into space and across the universe.
Centre director Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe said: "This is a seminal paper which places the comet-life interaction on a firm basis, and shows a mechanism by which life can be dispersed on a galactic scale."
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Yes (if it was close enough to be an issue), but what does that have to do with anything? The smallest and least massive claim for Nibiru is that it has 5 times the size and 15 times the mass of Jupiter.
Asteroids more than 1Km across are being tracked. They probably haven't missed any that might hit Earth any time soon.
Rather than copying and pasting a webpage as if it was your own post, why not just post a link to it?
http://www.universetoday.com/guide-to-space/galaxies/galactic-plane/
You also copy&pasted another page that the above page linked to:
http://www.universetoday.com/2008/0...crease-as-we-pass-through-the-galactic-plane/
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I see your a relatively new member dave1983. You will learn quickly that this kind of plagiarism really doesn't fly on this forum and rarely people get away with it.
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