Nikkon Mirrorless incoming

tatts · 22 Aug 2018 at 16:46

Greebo said:
Almost guaranteed they will be sony sensors. Question is, did Sony sell them ones as good as the ones they are using?

This is like nvidia making cards for ati, I can’t see them giving anything better than they use themselves.

Greebo · 22 Aug 2018 at 16:48

Rumour has it that it's the 45mp sensors from the 850 on at points on it. Not as many as Sony though .

Spec varies between the a7iii and a7riii so basically it's a rebadged Sony a7iii from what I've seen so far.

No bad thing and will keep Nikon users happy

Raymond Lin · 22 Aug 2018 at 16:54

tatts said:
This is like nvidia making cards for ati, I can’t see them giving anything better than they use themselves.

Sony makes them to Nikon spec. It’s like Apple buying Samsung OLED screens. It’s calibrated and tuned by Nikon.

tatts · 22 Aug 2018 at 19:34

Raymond Lin said:
Sony makes them to Nikon spec. It’s like Apple buying Samsung OLED screens. It’s calibrated and tuned by Nikon.

That’s true but I still can’t see them sending better sensors than their own.

Raymond Lin · 22 Aug 2018 at 19:38

tatts said:
That’s true but I still can’t see them sending better sensors than their own.

You are right that you shouldn’t see for example the A9 sensor that allows zero blackout, that’s the biggest selling point for the A9.

Greebo · 22 Aug 2018 at 20:22

Is that down to the sensor or the electronics?

Raymond Lin · 22 Aug 2018 at 20:26

Greebo said:
Is that down to the sensor or the electronics?

It's the tech, the architecture, the way it is read, the speed of it that allows 20fps, no black out.

Greebo · 22 Aug 2018 at 20:32

Raymond Lin said:
It's the tech, the architecture, the way it is read, the speed of it that allows 20fps, no black out.

To be fair Nikon is pretty damn good with their electronics and getting the best out here of Sony’s sensors

Raymond Lin · 22 Aug 2018 at 20:35

Greebo said:
To be fair Nikon is pretty damn good with their electronics and getting the best out here of Sony’s sensors

Oh yeah they are, IMO they brought out the best of the sensor in the D850 than Sony has in their A7R2/R3.

D.P. · 23 Aug 2018 at 06:16

tatts said:
That’s true but I still can’t see them sending better sensors than their own.

Happened lots of times in the past, and frequently Nikon has released the next sensor generation ahead of Sony. Sony and Nikon have cross-licensing deals in place, and a lot of the IP belongs to Nikon. This is why Nikon have achieved similarlu amazing dynamic range even when using a sensor fabbed by Toshiba for example.

Cameras like the D90, D3X, D800, D820 etc. Had better sensors than the Sony equivalent. Nikon has a lot of their own technology they use with thr Sony designs.

robj20 · 23 Aug 2018 at 07:23

Really dont like the location of the lens release. Looks even bigger than the current Sonys as well. Look forward to some reviews.

D.P. · 23 Aug 2018 at 07:39

robj20 said:
Really dont like the location of the lens release. Looks even bigger than the current Sonys as well. Look forward to some reviews.

Ergonomics is far more important than size. The Sony bodies are just not that comfortable to hold with a bigger lens.

My biggest concerns will be autofocus and the EVF. the latest sony bodies still don't match a D850/D5.

robj20 · 23 Aug 2018 at 07:43

D.P. said:
Ergonomics is far more important than size. The Sony bodies are just not that comfortable to hold with a bigger lens.

My biggest concerns will be autofocus and the EVF. the latest sony bodies still don't match a D850/D5.

To you maybe. For me size is far more important, the reason im holding onto my A7R is because the newer A7's have grown. Would love the better AF and built in stabilisation but not at the expense of size and weight.
Would have loved Nikon to make something smaller, im not overly invested in Sony yet so a change wouldnt have been difficult.

i know nothing · 23 Aug 2018 at 08:19

robj20 said:
To you maybe. For me size is far more important, the reason im holding onto my A7R is because the newer A7's have grown. Would love the better AF and built in stabilisation but not at the expense of size and weight.
Would have loved Nikon to make something smaller, im not overly invested in Sony yet so a change wouldnt have been difficult.

Not much in it spec wise it would appear:- https://www.techradar.com/news/nikon-z7-vs-sony-alpha-a7r-iii

I guess it will be interesting to see how it performs.

Phate · 23 Aug 2018 at 08:58

It looks like its going to come down purely to whether or not you prefer the feel of the Sony or the Nikon, and lens selection. Because when it comes to comparing specs its basically just trading blows.

Good, this is what it should be IMO.

socreative · 23 Aug 2018 at 09:20

Cr*p camera overall

Raymond Lin · 23 Aug 2018 at 09:27

Single card slots, instant written off from me.

Phate · 23 Aug 2018 at 09:29

I agree the main shock is a single card slot...just...WHY?!

Maybe they did that to drive more to the D850 and will push people to the Z6/7 later on?

i know nothing · 23 Aug 2018 at 09:34

Phate said:
... and lens selection.

This article has a chart outlining what lenses Nikon will introduce over the next couple of years.

I wonder how much the F lens adapter will be? I think that has to be critical right? Or am I wrong?

Phate · 23 Aug 2018 at 09:45

i know nothing said:
This article has a chart outlining what lenses Nikon will introduce over the next couple of years.

I wonder how much the F lens adapter will be? I think that has to be critical right? Or am I wrong?

Depends really. If you're just starting out then the ones which will release will keep you busy enough for now.

If you're a pro with a Nikon lens catalog who wants to switch, then yeah it will have a deciding factor.

Just read its got built in 5-axis VR. Same as the Olympus system. Nice!