Nissan to close plant sparking anger!

We can afford to bribe people to stay, Spain cant.

But the EU shot themselves in the foot with that Japan deal.

No they didn't, access to services far outweighs whatever temporary disruption there is from unforeseen issues.

The only problem and i'm sure you're hinting at it, is whether the restructuring of companies (job losses/worse contracts) leads to more social agitation that can be manipulated and directed at something other than that which deserves it. Regardless, it's out of our control now, it's obvious the Sunderland plant is going to be under constant review, if tariffs go up then they'll just take it back to Japan where there will be zero by 2027. The wonders of pushing nationalism is that it works both ways and Japan is the definition of it.
 
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We can afford to bribe people to stay, Spain cant.

But the EU shot themselves in the foot with that Japan deal.

Really? You really think we need to be bribing companies to stay here at the moment and post Covid?

Every penny will be needed to help recover, not spunked up the wall on bribing a company to keep their factory here.
 
It's almost like people seem happy about the possibility of the place closing? Weird.

Hardly, you really think there's a great swath of people happy about families potentially losing income? The fact is that it's a choice they made, so they should be accountable for taking the risk.
 
Hardly, you really think there's a great swath of people happy about families losing income? The fact is that it's a choice they made, so they should be accountable for taking the risk.

Personally I'd rather the people that misled them were held accountable. It's self-defeating to see families in the North East left without jobs whilst Johnson, Cummings, Rees-Mogg, Gove et al face no scrutiny.
 
Hardly, you really think there's a great swath of people happy about families potentially losing income? The fact is that it's a choice they made, so they should be accountable for taking the risk.
Well there are even smilies next to posts about it, and your second sentence doesn't exactly tell me you're sad about it.
 
I live near the Sunderland factory and thus have multiple friends and a relative that work for Nissan.

Word from what I've heard is that the Spanish factory is much more "painful" to run so to speak, apparently there's a lot more arguments from workers and demands etc whereas the Sunderland plant employes a lot of people from the local area who otherwise would struggle to find a job due to lack of jobs so just crack on with it and do their job.

I'm not surprised they didn't close the Sunderland plant.
 
It would be a minority but there will certainly be people who would use it as a 'told you so' for Brexit bashing.

The fact is, if one of the most efficient car plants in the world is at risk, then the problems run far deeper than leaving the EU.
 
It would be a minority but there will certainly be people who would use it as a 'told you so' for Brexit bashing.

The fact is, if one of the most efficient car plants in the world is at risk, then the problems run far deeper than leaving the EU.
part of it being efficient is the fact that we're in the EU which allows goods/parts to move around freely.

being out of EU with no-deal and tariffs kills the efficiency of the plant and the whole reason it is still open.

it's very simple I would have thought.
 
It's almost like people seem happy about the possibility of the place closing? Weird.

No its tragic, whats weirder is that despite the absolute facts staring people in the face and information provided by Nissan itself, people still think that a no deal brexit will deliver us into the land of rainbows and unicorns where the road is paved with gold. 7000 Sunderland folk run the real risk of being out of work and being from the NE myself I know what that means for these families, i saw it happen on Teesside with the closure of the steel plants, there is nowhere else to work.

Its weird to be labelled a doom monger and accused of playing the country down by simply living in the real world, that's whats weird.

There is however a large amount of glee/gloating in the OP in reference to several thousand Spanish workers losing their jobs.
 
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It would be a minority but there will certainly be people who would use it as a 'told you so' for Brexit bashing.

The fact is, if one of the most efficient car plants in the world is at risk, then the problems run far deeper than leaving the EU.

They've said the risk is no deal?
To avoid it they need a deal.

Obviously big problems in the worl , but no deal is just making it worse
 
The world won't have problems creating jobs if they stop corporations exploiting Chinese slave labour whilst at the same building up a hostile power lead by a self appointed dictator.
 
Sunderland is just a case of self inflicted austerity waiting to happen.

It might be worth the cost if you thought it might change the thinking of people in the long term.

But I think we can accept that, even now, the usual lot are still "lol we won, give it up" when discussing current events about Cummings, it doesn't give you much hope.
 
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