North Korea threatens US with a pre-emptive nuclear strike.
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I honestly don't understand why people think any conflict with North Korea would be over instantly, and that the "might" of SK and US forces would bowl them over?
Frankly it's a much worse/risky situation than say Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan (to use some random examples). In none of those situations have the "US" quickly and easily won, and the enemies in those conflicts had much less the strength, technology and resources NK potentially has.
And that is excluding thinking about the missile and nuclear capabilities NK may or may not have.
Frankly it's a much worse/risky situation than say Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan (to use some random examples). In none of those situations have the "US" quickly and easily won, and the enemies in those conflicts had much less the strength, technology and resources NK potentially has.
And that is excluding thinking about the missile and nuclear capabilities NK may or may not have.
Associate
Still think North Korea is harmless?
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2993/revealed_new_iranian_nuclear_sites_and_further_evidence_of_north_korea_collaboration
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2993/revealed_new_iranian_nuclear_sites_and_further_evidence_of_north_korea_collaboration
I believe the general consensus is that North Korea may be able to cobble together an atomic warhead, but they can't build the missile to strap it to. Even if they can't make either though, they could still buy one or two.
If they want to nuke America, and decide to buy a weapon from someone else, I'm not clear what would stop them.
If they want to nuke America, and decide to buy a weapon from someone else, I'm not clear what would stop them.
Associate
Maybe because you don't know any people with a revolutionary mindset in a country where attacking an enemy is seen as a way to keep yourself in power? It was the cause behind the Falklands War if you want an example.
Ironically one of the things preventing things in NK from getting bad enough for them to start a war has been the USA giving them food aid.
Ironically one of the things preventing things in NK from getting bad enough for them to start a war has been the USA giving them food aid.
North Korea is just a wonderfully useful reason to keep defence spending up, our defences against missiles are much better than any technology they have, so it is a non-issue.
Soldato
Because Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan are not what you call conventional warfare. When an enemy has no clear uniform, use guerrilla tactics, blends with civilians and uses innocents as diversions or shielding it's a completely different battle. If NK tried to actually all out assault another country you'd be ignorant to not realise a couple dozen other countries with a combined might unmatched would be all over them. No question. Although logistical issues won't be as bad since they're a bordering country (NK/SK).
Unless you're out to actually invade, annihilate, take and own another country which is far fetched today, when you (rightly) care about civilians it creates issue for military effectiveness. When it's a straight out slugfest it's a different story. Let's both not assume without the details, none of us really know in the end but if you don't give a damn about collateral loss of life and damage then it's gets very, very nasty.
But I will say you're a little ignorant to warfare tactics and history, fighting an enemy you can't tell from friend or foe is incredibly hard, especially from a force who by all rights give a damn about civilians and the enemy do not.
If every enemy in middle east battlespaces wore a uniform it'd be so very different and that's why the last incursion to the middle-east in the 90s was, a relative cake walk (do not read into this as me saying it was easy) when up against a clear enemy. Then of course there's issue like highway 80.
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Caporegime
It's fine, each nation has equal rights to own nuclear weapons, who are we to say otherwise.
Or some other limp wristed ideology.
Soldato
America would never fire a nuke into NK. Even if NK attempted / succeeded in firing a nuke into SK. They would respond by dismantling the country/ regime using conventional weapons.
Nuclear weapons are jut a deterrent.
Nuclear weapons are jut a deterrent.
No, the first gulf war was a relative cake walk because they just pushed Saddam back to where he was originally. They didn't have to do any peace keeping afterwards. The same part in the second war was over in months, the peace keeping was the slugfest. Same to an extent with the French resistance and many other places. NK would be exactly the same, alongside most other places. If you have to battle the population as well as the army then you're ******, unless you lay down draconian laws, then even then you may still end up like Vietnam. It's much easier when you just push people out like the first GW and the population support you.
NK wouldnt be like that though. Despite what people read about the 'brainwashing', most NKs want to be out of the situation. They wont be fighting. Especially if SK is involved.
and they almost did last time round... until waves of Chinese troops came over the border
Associate
China and Russia have just nailed their colours to the mast when it comes to foreign powers intervening in the paths of development of other nation states, presumably including Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-21911842
It's still their nation, with invaders coming in.
People said the same about Iraq (they all want Saddam gone) and Afghanistan (they all wanted the Taliban gone). But that wasn't actually the case, especially when they realised another force they had no control over replaced them.
The critical difference is that both Iraq and Afghanistan were Islamic countries and thus attracted huge numbers of foreign fighters. Those foreign fighters make up the hardcore of resistance in both countries.
They also lack the religious fervor which is a huge issue in the middle east regarding foreign powers.
They dont even have the hardcore communist thing going any more. Juche has totally taken over.
NK and SK still see each other as brothers. a split people. Theres no real reason to think the situation would be like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Man of Honour
Are the circumstances the same as they were in 1950 ?