NR200 Owner's Thread

McPhee · 24 Aug 2020 at 23:30

Radiator mounted to the top panel, with slim fans between the top panel and top mesh?

Or maybe a top mounted rad with a 3D printed, offset, 92mm or 80mm to 120mm bracket? Should be able to fit fans on a rad up there if they're offset.

I suspect you'll be looking at slim rads and a custom loop in both scenarios though.

McPhee · 28 Aug 2020 at 14:00

Bazzards said:
Right, cabling done

When I get some time, I'll write a cable management guide for this case. Seems to be a few having issues

McPhee · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:52

Relentless81 said:
Can't make my mind up between the Big Shuriken and U9S Chromax when it's released, going round in circles trying to decide

The big Shuriken will cover memory if the vrm heat sync is to high so you have to flip it where the NH-U9S there isn't an issue but 92mm fan still worries me

I think you're maybe overestimating the benefits of a 120mm fan over a 92mm

These two coolers aren't even close to the same performance.

I can't see much reason to buy the Shuriken unless you're mounting the GPU vertically. Just look at the last set of slides in the video above; U9S outperforms the C14S in the Ncase M1. And the C14S is MUCH larger cooler than both the L12S and BS3.

Darren_uk said:
big Shuriken 3 as more compatibility with taller memory

U9S shouldn't generally interfere with RAM.

McPhee · 30 Aug 2020 at 11:15

KAB4C2E said:
hi, i saw your posts regarding mounting a 120mm at the rear using cable ties, hoping to ask you some questions

can you send a picture of what it looks like from the back of the case ? which holes did you put the cable ties through ?

is there any chance a 140 mm fan can fit in there ? or only enough space for 120 mm?

thanks,

I removed the fan, so can't photograph it now. Most of the face of the fan was obscured though. On the 140mm front, I'm fairly certain the answer is no. There simply isn't room. And I don't think it would offer any advantages anyway, given how little ventilation there is on the back panel with the NR200P. The top panel is the main, and most effective, exhaust.

McPhee · 1 Sep 2020 at 10:06

Just realised this thread now has the 6th most replies of all (non-sticky) threads in this forum. The only "case" threads with more replies are the 'Akasa Eclipse 62', 'Phanteks Enthoo Primo', 'Phanteks Evolv X & P600', and 'Fractal Define' threads. And the NR200 thread is likely to overtake the latter three within a week or two.

Is this case really popular, or does @Darren_uk just spam the thread too much?

McPhee · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:02

I had the same problem with the HD audio. I managed to get it tidy, but a bit of extra length would have made things easier.

Simon Belmont said:
I wonder which 3000 series GPU would fit in the NR200P? Because those Nvidia 3000 FE cards are HUGE!

All of them will fit without any problems. 330mm max length and 156mm max height, with support for cards up to (and actually slightly over) 3 slots in thickness.

McPhee · 2 Sep 2020 at 21:46

adriancal said:
Is it still possible to buy the NR200 (not P?)

Never has been in the UK. That may change at some point, but for now we are only getting the P SKU.

McPhee · 3 Sep 2020 at 08:54

Scba said:
I don't think hot air to would go back to the gpu as you have an airflow direction from the bottom fans (including the gpu blow through style fan design) to the top fans and out of the case.

With the design on the current cards that hot air is more likely to be recirculated as the gpu (and its solid backplate) blocking the airflow quite a lot

I think you've misunderstood.

McPhee · 5 Sep 2020 at 17:37

U12A doesn't fit with the glass. The other two might fit with the glass.

To guarantee the cooler will fit with the glass, you need to go a bit shorter, e.g. Arctic 33 eSports.

McPhee · 6 Sep 2020 at 08:59

Danosborne661 said:
Thank you for your response.

I was considering the Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo at 157mm in height. Are the sticking out pins for anything in particular? It wouldn’t take much to shave 3mm off with a dremel (photo below of the pins/studs below that could be shaved back)

Swap to the 33 and it'll fit fine. The 34 is 157mm. The 33 is 153mm.

McPhee · 6 Sep 2020 at 10:11

far from home said:
I am really shocked off cooler master, they could have had made this case perfect by
1- increase the width to 20 cm
2- ability to use top mounted radiator

Adding 15mm to width and 30mm to height makes the case only about 10% smaller than the Metallic Gear Neo G Mini, and well outside of what would be considered small form factor.

Might be worth looking at the MG case if large air cooler support and optimal radiator orientation are important to you. Or the Lian Li TU150 or Inwin A1 for big air coolers.

McPhee · 6 Sep 2020 at 11:18

I'm not sure the O11 Mini was ever "Mini" TBH. When they first revealed it, they said it was 38L. There are a few things making the case big. Support for ATX and MATX boards and a side mounted rad mean the case has to be quite deep. ATX board support limits how short the case can be. And supporting large tower coolers and a rear 120mm fan limits how narrow it can be.

An O11 ITX could have been a lot smaller.

McPhee · 7 Sep 2020 at 10:25

Tephnos said:
Isn't the height issue of top mounted rads mostly just due to the PSU bracket getting in the way? They could've been a lot smarter about how they placed that, or offered lower moutnting options, I guess.

PSU, RAM slots, and motherboard heatsinks are all potentially an issue.

When it comes to the PSU, if low profile aftermarket cables were used then it could probably be mounted a few millimeters lower. But otherwise, it's already mounted as low as possible without greatly reducing max GPU length. The SFX mounting position is already significantly lower than in the Ncase M1, resulting in the cables touching the GPU backplate.

There isn't really any way around the simple fact that proper top mounted radiator/AIO support would require a substantial increase to case height. And this space would be completely pointless when not using a radiator. The best shout is going to be doing what Darren did. Hopefully any V2 of this case officially supports flipping the case and rotating the panels.

McPhee · 7 Sep 2020 at 14:08

From what one of the reps posted on Reddit (months ago), it seems the management at CM were quite sceptical of this case. It took some convincing to get the go-ahead for the project.

I suspect they were just very conservative with numbers for initial production.

McPhee · 8 Sep 2020 at 00:28

Richard Holm said:
Since we're on the topic of AIOs, what about that the new Be Quiet AIOs where the pump is closer to the rad and not on the cold plate? https://www.anandtech.com/show/16043/keeping-it-pure-be-quiet-pure-loop-series-up-to-360-mm-aios

The bits from the GN video re: the pump won't apply, as the pump won't get dry and will continue to work at full effectiveness.

But if the rad is mounted at the bottom, any air in the system will still accumulate in the block. Over time, the air bubble will grow as water leaves the system. Cooling effectiveness will fall. Plastic temperature will rise. The saving grace here is that the system is user serviceable, so in theory the water level shouldn't be allowed to get low enough to be a problem. Seeing temps rise? Time to top the coolant up.

McPhee · 8 Sep 2020 at 09:25

Relentless81 said:
The mesh bottom panel is difficult to remove and clean when compared to the filters on a Meshify C for example which just slides out from the front. Yo have to lift the case up to access it to remove, clean and reinstall it.

Coming from an Ncase M1, the bottom panel is one of the things I liked on this case

IIRC it's secured by just one screw(?). The M1 uses something like 9(!) screws to do the job. Took ages to do anything on the bottom panel in that case.

McPhee · 8 Sep 2020 at 10:09

Relentless81 said:
The removable bottom panel is a great idea, k was referring to maintaining the dust filter, slide out is much better than having to lift the case to remove the filter and again to refit it, especially when wiring is as tight as mine is at the back

Oh that. Pretty standard SFF unfortunately; magnetic filters take up less space. Even the expensive cases use them.

McPhee · 11 Sep 2020 at 01:24

adriancal said:
Yes I also watched all of those videos.

Regarding the FE, as it has one fan blowing in each direction. I presume you'd only have 1 fan below the card blowing in. Instead of two bottom fans. One blowing in each direction under each corresponding FE fan..

The fans in the FE don't blow in opposite directions. The one closest to the PCI bracket is on the normal side of the card, pushing air through a heatsink. The other fan is on the back of the card, pulling air through the heatsink. In both cases, the fans are drawing air up from the bottom of the case.

McPhee · 12 Sep 2020 at 21:50

***F1ZZY*** said:
Watercooled vertical mount GPU - is this possible? I haven't seen anyone do it and can only assume it isn't possible; maybe due to vertical height / tube connection restrictions??

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Thanks

Cooler Master show it off with a vertical GPU on the product page. So it would be weird if it didn't work.

McPhee · 12 Sep 2020 at 22:41

***F1ZZY*** said:
but no top fans, sorry i didn't specify that bit

Do you need top fans with a fully water cooled system? If you do, it's going to come down to the height of the GPU. Most likely some will fit and some won't.