NR200 Owner's Thread

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You'd still want to get rid of the hot air, so fans would still be preferred for the airflow. Looking at the Cooler Master promo picture front fan is blocked because of the power cables from the GPU and rear fan is blocked because of the termination. I thought this would be lower, but I guess the cards are wider than I thought. That means you really would only have the bottom radiator with its fans and nothing else. Might want to put a REALLY fat radiator then
All depends on space though, Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 would probably then only fit with thin fans, so may as well have a 30mm thick with 25mm fans. Doubt a Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 would fit

CM are using the rad fans for exhaust, which is probably the only way to do this. Always the option of putting slim fans between the top mesh and the frame though (discussed over past couple of pages). Could likely fit a full size fan in the front if 180 degree power adapters are used.

 

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CableMod will be releasing SFX cable kits (and making their SFX cable configurator live) soon. IIRC, there was some mention of low profile connectors and unsleeved cables. Potentially a good option if space is tight, as the LP connectors shave a couple of millimetres off from where the cables exit the PSU, and unsleeved cables are both thinner and more flexible.

 

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If anyone is still interested in putting an ATX PSU in the case then CM officially released the free design files for the ATX PSU bracket
https://www.reddit.com/r/coolermaster/comments/iv27pt/3d_printable_atx_psu_brackets_for_nr200nr200p/

direct link to the files:
https://coolermaster.egnyte.com/fl/D7K934tm5a#folder-link/3d Printable Files/ATX PSU Bracket

Interesting. Losing the top fan and keeping full GPU length compatibility seems like a pretty good compromise in exchange for not having to shell out £££ on an SFX PSU. Basically wind up in the same situation as those of us with SFX-L PSUs (which means I wasted £90 ).

 

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I found it interesting from that point of view that CM making this available for free instead of making money from selling. I think that's a really customer friendly approach

Yeah, that too. Massive kudos to them for doing it, rather than just announcing it will be available next year for £20 (or whatever price it winds up being).

 

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The card is 51.6mm thick, so 25mm fans won't fit (it's a tight squeeze with the 49mm 5700 XT Nitro+).

As for deshrouding, it'll be tuf ('') to know until someone has tried it. But I'd guess there will be a few millimetres air gap with 25mm fans.

 

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Are there any mm left with the 5700XT? I'll have to measure when I get the tuf card perhaps and see how I'll do it.

I'd say no. Unless the card is perfectly level, the GPU fans scrape on the case fans.

I stopped using bottom fans though. Didn't seem to be really doing much.

 

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As is though and potential cooling leaks apart, I feel that this case is far better suited for water cooling.
It’s disappointing but I am considering re-transplanting everything back to the Lian li Tu150 which I believe is a better suited case for air cooling.

Possibly a silly question, but have you actually compared temperatures between the two cases?

Just wondering, as you could be getting hung up over nothing here. Might be that temps in the NR200P are better than in the TU150 without a rear fan on the cooler, or with a 92mm instead of a 120mm.

 

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Back when I had my Ref 5700 XT, I looked at using a G12 with a 240mm AIO. Problem is, when you add up the thickness of the bracket, plus the AIO pump, plus the rad, there wasn't enough space left for fans. I looked at loads of AIOs, and none would work.

I think you will struggle to do dual AIOs. 2x120mm on the side panel is likely the best that can be done with the G12 bracket. Bykski do a full cover waterblock GPU AIO that may help though as it's only single slot. Don't know what their plans are for that product and the new cards. Last gen, it was available for the 2080/Ti and 5700/XT. But unless you fancy running a 10600k on the 92mm AIO, you would need to run the mesh side and 2x 240mm AIOs.

Probably better to look at a custom loop though, as that fixes both problems. You can definitely fit the glass side and either one thick 240mm rad, or one regular 240mm and one 92mm, depending on GPU orientation. And all of that cooling capacity will be shared between CPU and GPU, meaning neither gets lumbered with the weedy 92mm rad.

If you don't want to do a custom loop, I think you may be better off cramming the biggest air cooler that will fit on to the CPU, and buying the best AIB GPU you can get. Chances are, temperatures will be better overall. A 92mm AIO on an overclocked 10600k, RTX 3070 or RX 6700 XT doesn't sound like a great idea.

 

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Geez. You don't have any luck, do you?

 

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This default corsair sf750 24pin cable is 30cm length, what do you think, would a custom 24p cable of 20cm be too short to make it straight like this: (Red drawing is what i would like to achieve). I would like to make it as tight as possible, but i'm afraid 20cm might be too short

Unplug the cable at both ends. Then run a piece of string via the route you want the string to take. Add a couple of centimeters to the length of the string to ensure there's enough slack. There's your measurement.

This tends to be the best practice way of measuring for custom cables. Or take a look on r/SFFPC for measurements for your motherboard and either this case, or the Ncase M1 (worth adding a couple of cm to M1 measurements as the PSU in the NR200 is slightly further from the motherboard).

 

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I see in specs that cooler clearance is 155 mm but still fits 158/159 mm Hyper 212 Evo even with glass panel. Does that mean it could fit other similarly tall coolers? I want to make color matching build in white and found this cooler with optional colored top plates that's 158 mm tall . Could probably get 1-2mm less height swapping fan to white arctic p12 too based on photos. Maybe even push pull too. Waiting for reply from SilentiumPC about cooler height without fan.

https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/fortis-3-he1425/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE0AfNnIFYQ

Anything over 155mm/153mm is down to manufacturing tolerances and luck. CM were able to say that their cooler fits as they know the tolerances on both the case and the cooler. There's no certainty with coolers from other manufacturers, e.g. Fuma 2 fits for some people and not for others.

 

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I see everyone seems to be going for the Scythe Mugen 5 or the Scythe Fuma 2 in there builds.. does no one like the Noctua NH-U12A for this case then

U12-A only fits with the vented panels, while Mugen 5 and Fuma 2 will (in some cases) fit with the glass. Plus price, as already stated.

 

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Needed a bigger case for a pending 30 series. Was a bit shocked by the size difference.

Wow

Don't think I've seen one of these next to a hat-less Ghost before. Looks gigantic!

 

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@Relentless81 thank you for replying. I read about that, but at the same time I'm seeing a lot of builds with h7(quad lumi/plus/utlra) and different ryzen cpus with decent temps.
I really want to switch to amd for this build. It seems the choices for the tg panel are:
- top down coolers (I'll be checking the big shuriken 3)
- modifying the dark rock 4 or getting the pure rock 2 - thanks for the information (I need to check mbu compatibility and clearance for both)
- risking with the h7 (or go with intel)
- scythe mugen 5 - I read all of your posts about it, that's a bummer
- going with the mesh panel only and arctic 34 (I cannot find the fuma2 in my country)

Arctic 33 is only 53mm, so should fit fine. Also, there's Noctua's U9S and D9L. While they're 92mm coolers, they can handle most CPUs fine.

 

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What's the big fear with negative pressure?

 

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Will I be able to fit an ATX power supply with a 3090 rtx mounted vertical using the riser card?

Nope.

Caveat; it might be possible with a W/C ref card. I haven't checked, but it's a hunch. You'll need to front-mount an ATX PSU, so GPU length will be limited.

 

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Thanks, now that I've used it during a gaming session last night and also browsing for half an hour I'm going to admit despite how nice it looks I'm a little less impressed

All the reviews i read said it's quiet but I can definitely hear it, no where near as loud as the Wraith Prism but I can hear it revving up and down and it's a little whiney

Also after an hour of gaming CPU hit 73C peak temp which is fine but for the price I would expect it to be better than the Wraith Prism which I've never seen go over 72C even in warmer ambient temps

My system temps were also up due to the missing too down cooler air flow which means my system fans get louder

I'm tempted to pick up a 120mm top down cooler for testing, I want to scratch the itch that might prove a top down cooler performs better in this case than a tower cooler with TG panel

Are you sure clocks are the same? Could be that you're seeing a higher boost clock with the U9S.

 

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Yes I checked, no difference to the clocks on any cooler I've tried so far

Worth trying the cooler fan as an intake? What happens if you unplug the top exhausts?

Just curious whether the CPU fan and case fans might be fighting over the same air.

 

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without them there is going to be a build up of hot air so I would expect temps to rise but might be worth a try

No doubt. But if you stick a CPU bench on and compare with the top fans on and off, it'll tell you if they're causing issues with the CPU fan.

I get about 80'C under load, R5 2600, ~3.8GHz boost clock. Not great. But not awful. However the system is a lot quieter than it was when I had a Wraith Stealth in there. I could likely get much better temps if I upped the fan curve a bit and swapped the fans for better ones. Given it's an £18 cooler with ARGB lighting on the fan and the heatsink, I've got no grumbles TBH I don't fuss much. If it's quiet and games run, I'm happy.

I'll upgrade to the U9S, Arctic Freezer 33 eSports or Big Shuriken at some point, hence the interest in seeing how you're getting on with the U9S. Haven't decided which cooler to go for yet.

 

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Most people are getting the Mugen 5, it’s pretty much the only 120mm cooler that fits under the glass. There is another but it doesn’t fit with all motherboards due to socket placement (fuma 2)

Quite a few 120mm coolers will reliably fit. Mugen 5 is simply the largest and best performing one.